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[TheKillerAngel]

My sense so far is that it is an overall, good, but flawed game. I like the combat and the character development is good. I do object to the auto dialogue and how it homogenizes the characterization of Shepard. I'm still very much in the beginning of the game. My assessment may change by the game's end.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 07 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[Jynthor]

Yes. It's bad in many ways. But I'm having fun and am making the most of it.

[Justin2k]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

One thing I'm seeing occassionally is the notion the game was rushed or the dev team didn't try as hard somehow. It's disheartening to see that because I can tell you the development team worked *incredibly* hard on the game, including a ton of personal sacrifice (hours worked, holidays skipped etc). This was a labor of love for the team and we're all very proud of what has been accomplished. There are bugs that got through (face import. we know ) but they are being investigated for fixing etc.

My main issue is that you seem to care far far more about attracting new people to ME than you did making sure the people who have supported you the entire time were happy with it.

Adding multiplayer, homosexual relationships (which i have nothing against), action style, auto-dialogue,shooter gameplay. 

Did you not think that the majority of the players you already have would have preferred to see more Miranda.  To see more of the Rachni.  To see more of their Shepard, and their choices?  At the very least, do you not think that we expected an ending that was going to fit our Shepard rather than just a generic one size fits all ending?

As a stand alone game, ME3 looks to be the best in the series.  But as the finale of a whole triology, it seems as though Bioware turned its back on the fans to get a little more money by appeasing other groups of gamers at the expense of staying true to the product we love, and thats the same thing which you did to Dragon Age, and if you carry on doing it, you won't be able to count on the "hardcore" support base for all that much longer tbh.

[Aaleel]

I'm very disappointed. Started with only having TWO of my many ME2 saves available for import, none of my femsheps. How the ???? do you mess up the imports, people have been playing this series for years, and now can't finish their characters, WTF Bioware.

Too much auto-dialogue, the game is an action/shooter with a side of story. The game hasn't engaged me yet, I'm kind of just going through the motions. If combat is your primary care or focus, then I can see a person loving the game, but it's not what I'm playing for.

[Spush]

I'm dispointed by the fact that there was Less dialogue choices was a stupid design by bioware (thanks for trying to introduce new players...), I miss making the choices on what to talk about to other squad mates, or random characters throughout the space stations/planets I visit. Kind of wished that the whole "RPG" aspect was more like well ME1, more in depth in what skills you choose to upgrade, such as speech being separte, and so on. Too bad you can't take back Omega or something, wanted to go back there.. The whole one button does everything "space bar" get's annoying and when trying to do something it automaticly trys to do something else that I didn't intend on doing. For example trying to jump roll but some how mange to get behind cover? Maybe being able to bind different keys like ME1, "J" to go to Journal. The Journal needed to be more orginized like previous ME games, having Assignments and Missions. Finally the ending, like wtf kind of ending was that? Did I miss something.... Bioware how the hell are you going to make another series when all of the freakin Mass Relays are gone?.....

[TheKillerAngel]

Well, the more binary dialogue system with a greater emphasis on interrupts has ups and downs. It significantly changes the flow of the narrative, for one. By adding in more interrupts it makes places much more emphasis on dynamic, real-time decision making, almost like Alpha Protocol. If you like planning out your responses, this is a bad thing, but it also makes the speech and interaction more "realistic."

The reduction of many dialogue choices to binary paths and the overall reduction of ability to choose what you say, while speeding the flow of the narrative, also reduces how you can characterize Shepard, which is a pretty major point among this game's core audience. I think this is what really prevents the game from being "perfect."

[JamieCOTC]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

One thing I'm seeing occassionally is the notion the game was rushed or the dev team didn't try as hard somehow. It's disheartening to see that because I can tell you the development team worked *incredibly* hard on the game, including a ton of personal sacrifice (hours worked, holidays skipped etc). This was a labor of love for the team and we're all very proud of what has been accomplished. There are bugs that got through (face import. we know ) but they are being investigated for fixing etc.

I don't see any signs that this game was rushed.  The problems I'm having w/ ME3 are possibly more the cause of artisitc direction, namely the auto-dialogue. I'm very gald that Shepard is more human.  I just wish I had more imput into that direction.

[Primalrose]

Lol...I am so glad I did not buy the game straight away, think I am going to wait a while. Bugs and annoying glitches and hiccups are inevitable.

[rockchild123]

I have just started the game (maybe 2 hours in) and I am disappointed. Maybe I had high hopes, too high, for this game. I like the improved combat but the almost total abandonment of the RPG elements really gets me. Alot of us wanted something more explorative for resources gathering and mission pickups rather than being lead by the hand and forced to scan planets. I feel they did not listen to those of us who wanted these elements but instead decided to play it safe and refine the combat rather than develop more RPG elements back into the system. Unfinished? Maybe. Feels like business risk analysis won over fans hope for the best game ever made. I still hope one day someone will get there.

[Archyyy]

Played a few hours. Terrible. Almost everything is even more dumbed down. I didnt think it was possible. Leveling, "inventory" and such couldnt get much worse than ME2 so i guess those are improved but otherwise just awful.

Auto dialog with the very rare two choices (why bioware thinks their users cant understand more than two options is beyond me), terribly cliched and cheesy writing, animations (qwop, anderson, qwop) and really dark graphics to hide the fact that otherwise theyd be terrible and probably a lot more if I can force myself to play more. Maybe I'll just play through ME1 again and pretend this never happend.

Apparently the game also features plot holes, the loss of all credibility for reapers and more. Perhaps I'll just quit here.

Modifié par Archyyy, 08 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[Julia343]

I just can't link my XBox Live/Origin account with BSN so none of my BW games show up here. I'll try to get hold of them tomorrow when the rush has died down a little.

Meanwhile I'm loving this game. Auto dialogue is not bothering me. The fact the ME1 > ME2 face did not import allowed me to make a better one. One that is older, and the renegade lines just roll.

[LostHero2k9]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

One thing I'm seeing occassionally is
the notion the game was rushed or the dev team didn't try as hard
somehow. It's disheartening to see that because I can tell you the
development team worked *incredibly* hard on the game, including a ton
of personal sacrifice (hours worked, holidays skipped etc). This was a
labor of love for the team and we're all very proud of what has been
accomplished. There are bugs that got through (face import. we know
) but they are being investigated for fixing etc.

So its yet another early release enforced by EA Games instead of moving the release date like Blizzard does "all the time" to ensure quality? Awesome... really awesome... NOT!

Although I won't make my final judgement about ME3 until i finished it at least once, i am quite disapointed of what i have seen so far and its not only because of the missing "HD Textures" (see my other thread about this topic)...

Modifié par LostHero2k9, 08 mars 2012 - 12:56 .

[bennyjammin79]

Nope.

[Justin2k]

Skyrim. That was how you deliver on a big name game.

You start work on it years before anyone realise. You announce it years before its release. You make sure to stick to the things that made the previous installments a success. And then you steadily bring out DLC over months and months.

I'm sorry but now Bioware just seem more into scraping as much money as than they do keeping their customers happy. And when we go, and Bioware are left with the fickle MMO market, and the fickle Multiplayer COD crowd, they will realise what they've done and ultimately suffer for it imho.

[ZX12r Ninja]

Terminus Echoes wrote...

I'm just thinking to myself...

...ISN'T LIARA SUPPOSED TO BE THE SHADOW BROKER? You know, like, busy... brokering? Not working on some dig site.

But yeah, what you said too.

She had the VI setup todo all the cataloging for her and also she had some mobile platform which allowed her to communicate with her network. One could say she had the same kind of setup on Mars.

Modifié par ZX12r Ninja, 08 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[suliabryon]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

One thing I'm seeing occassionally is the notion the game was rushed or the dev team didn't try as hard somehow. It's disheartening to see that because I can tell you the development team worked *incredibly* hard on the game, including a ton of personal sacrifice (hours worked, holidays skipped etc). This was a labor of love for the team and we're all very proud of what has been accomplished. There are bugs that got through (face import. we know ) but they are being investigated for fixing etc.

You know, I really don't understand where people get the idea that it was rushed or whatever. I played DA2, and yes, I was disappointed in it, and honestly, that game felt rushed - same dungeons repeated over and over, for example. 

I'm about three hours into ME3, and the game feels hugely detailed and deeper than either ME1 or 2. Are there bugs and occasional problems people are having? Sure, but what game ever comes out without them? Personally, I think ME3 is a massive achievement. Just taking into account all of the many varying decisions people made in the first two games had to be an enormous undertaking, and so far, I am completely blown away by what was accomplished with ME3 as the crowning achievement of that idea. 

[TheKillerAngel]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I was very happy with the game until I got to the end.

Then my opinion did a 180.

You must have seen all the people talking about the ending, didn't you?

[Graunt]

I am enjoying it quite a bit, but I can say not nearly as much as ME2.  As much as the overall aesthetics have improved, the game is distinclty lacking in soul.   For a game that's supposed to be all about urgency and loss, EVERYTHING feels completely staged, obvious and forced just to try to manipulate the audience in some way, but it never ever works.  What makes it the worst is that anytime there's supposed to be a drammatic scene or conversation, it comes out so quickly and with zero emotion from anyone.  Bioware really pulled the rug out from under us on this one.  All of the PR hype from employee "testimonials" made it seem like there would be more gravitas in this than any other, but it's actually the complete opposite.

I also absolutely HATE Shepards movement speed.  They put him at a slug pace just to "balance" the fact that he can dodge.  Turning is so slow in this game that even with the dodging, I would rather just have the old cover system and speed back.

[s17tabris]

I've finished only the prologue yesterday. It feels strange having only 2 dialogue options. Is it like that for the rest of the game? And also, graphics didn't seem to be much improved from the demo. I didn't mind the face import thing. I was planning on changing Shep's face anyway.

[adembroski]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

One thing I'm seeing occassionally is the notion the game was rushed or the dev team didn't try as hard somehow. It's disheartening to see that because I can tell you the development team worked *incredibly* hard on the game, including a ton of personal sacrifice (hours worked, holidays skipped etc). This was a labor of love for the team and we're all very proud of what has been accomplished. There are bugs that got through (face import. we know ) but they are being investigated for fixing etc.

This game was clearly not rushed. That anyone would say that is ridiculous. I am disappointed with many design decisions, but it is very clear to me how much love was put into it. As a game designer myself, I want to congratulate you on an outstanding product.

But I will also say; I believe in many ways you did abandon the fanbase in favor of the lowest common demoninator. This doesn't feel like Mass Effect, but an attempt to crowbar a storyline into Gears of War. Story and character development, an interactive, 3rd person narrative... is what Bioware does best. I wish you'd stuck to that formula rather than taking away my Shepard in favor of better AI (though, I'll say, I am enjoying the combat... but if combat's what I want, I already own BF3).

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I got into the Purgatory bar and can't get a table dance.

Pre-order canceled

[Terrifyer]

Yep, disappointed indeed. I will preface all of this by saying after 5ish hours of play that I've relatively enjoyed myself and will finish it to the end, but the few number of things that it does well are overshadowed by the many shortcomings.

First of all the consolization is all over it from top to bottom. The lack of advanced gfx options, the do-everything button, the clunky UI; everything is basically a giant step backwards from ME2 in regards to the overall interface. Yet, what I really found strikingly appalling is how on-rails and compact the level and world design has become. I realize the ME series has never really been about sprawling environments, but the sequences I have played so far are basically corridors with objective indicators pointing you in the direction to go. Ladders even have directional arrows pointing up or down in case you get to one at the end of a hallway and aren't sure if you need to climb it or not.

The non-combat areas suffer the same fate. From what I can tell the Citadel has basically been reduced to 3 large plazas with a corridor here and there. The Normandy feels half the size it used to even though it's basically designed the same. Like I said, everything is compact. It's like the feeling you may have gotten when you played DA2 - a polished veneer of glitz and glam on top, with little to no substance or depth underneath.

Sigh. Oh well. This is obviously the direction BioWare (or should I say EA) have chosen to take.

[Maverick827]

I'm not disappointed, but I'm currently not playing it right now.  Why?

1.  I'm having a lot of fun in SWTOR.  This isn't ME3's fault at all, but there it is.

2.  I can't make a good looking face to save my life.  I'm going to have to wait until someone with better Face-Fu makes something that I like.

3.  I never got around to running through ME1 and ME2 again, so I have this feeling that I'm going to be thinking "no, don't do that that's for your real play through!" a lot.  Not very motivational, to say the least.

4.  I was caught off guard by the simpler dialog system.  This is probably my only real gripe, but I'm not going to cry about it, especially because I've only played for a half an hour.

[gabe2gg]

arr0whead wrote...

I've finished only the prologue yesterday. It feels strange having only 2 dialogue options. Is it like that for the rest of the game? And also, graphics didn't seem to be much improved from the demo. I didn't mind the face import thing. I was planning on changing Shep's face anyway.

I've heard the the interview option is completly gone from the game.

I hope this is not true.