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[Cooymans]

Even after removing **** reviews it still has 2.9 on pc, 4.9 on 360 and 3.4 on ps3. Looks like it's a terrible game.
DA2
Tortanic
Me3

Bioware look like they'll be dead within a few years

[UBER GEEKZILLA]

they should just get rid of user scores all together

[kofelover]

Cooymans wrote...

Even after removing **** reviews it still has 2.9 on pc, 4.9 on 360 and 3.4 on ps3. Looks like it's a terrible game.
DA2
Tortanic
Me3

Bioware look like they'll be dead within a few years

Not until EA has ripped the last shred of dignity from them --

I should have learned my lesson from DA2, but I just wanted to finish my Shepard's story, so I pre-ordered (then cancelled my pre-order) and then re-ordered it again.  I have it installed but haven't started to play it yet.  I'm just hoping it's not as bad as some people's opinions. Should get a chance this weekend to give it a go.  Keeping my fingers crossed and expectations low. 

[jbg927]

good for metacritic, there is nothing worse than flame reviews

[salbi]

Kilshrek wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Just like every positive review is payed off by the develepor?

Paid off by the publisher, who knows? But we do know that publishers to use much indirect force to get what they want from gaming sites.

It's kind of like, we agree to give your games good reviews so long as you agree to give us advertising revenue and early/exclusive access to your products.

There are rumours of such things but without too many people coming out to confirm or deny, then the cynical minds of the world will surely take that silence as implied confirmation, no?

Still, it's hard to believe when there are 43 critics sites involved (currently listed in the xbox section). Something similar people were saying when Skyrim got released.
Besides, if this is always the case, why DA2 only got a metacritic of 79?

[slimgrin]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

they should just get rid of user scores all together

Great idea. Let's just put our faith in people who can be bought off.

[BuffPhantoms]

slimgrin wrote...

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

they should just get rid of user scores all together

Great idea. Let's just put our faith in people who can be bought off.

As opposed to putting faith in an organized 4chan raid?

what?

[slimgrin]

BuffPhantoms wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

they should just get rid of user scores all together

Great idea. Let's just put our faith in people who can be bought off.

As opposed to putting faith in an organized 4chan raid?

what?

Where did I suggest that?

[Gigamantis]

Cooymans wrote...

Even after removing **** reviews it still has 2.9 on pc, 4.9 on 360 and 3.4 on ps3. Looks like it's a terrible game.
DA2
Tortanic
Me3

Bioware look like they'll be dead within a few years

They only removed the reviews that didn't give ANY reason and/or impersonated Bioware staff.  All of the "GRAFIX SUX STORY SUX ENDING SUX!" reviews are still in as well as the "ZOMG ITS ALL PERFECT!" reviews.  

You're forgetting that user reviews are almost completely meaningless.  They never represent sales, critical acclaim or anything that would matter even a little.  DA2 was a commercial success and ME3 will definitely be a commercial success and probably a GOTY contender.  More than enough people will enjoy the game and you people who "didn't like the ending" or had to spend 2 minutes recreating your characters face will be forgotten.  

I'm sorry you're so unimportant, but that's the way it works. 

Modifié par Gigamantis, 08 mars 2012 - 02:49 .

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

I bet they leave the positive ones

[HolyAvenger]

Its not a bad game. Its flaws but nowhere to the extent that those numbers would indicate.

I would recommend giving it a go before making a decision.

[MingWolf]

kofelover wrote...

Cooymans wrote...

Even after removing **** reviews it still has 2.9 on pc, 4.9 on 360 and 3.4 on ps3. Looks like it's a terrible game.
DA2
Tortanic
Me3

Bioware look like they'll be dead within a few years

Not until EA has ripped the last shred of dignity from them --

I should have learned my lesson from DA2, but I just wanted to finish my Shepard's story, so I pre-ordered (then cancelled my pre-order) and then re-ordered it again.  I have it installed but haven't started to play it yet.  I'm just hoping it's not as bad as some people's opinions. Should get a chance this weekend to give it a go.  Keeping my fingers crossed and expectations low. 

I've read some of the negative reviews.  Some of them are brief, many of them gives the game an outrageous 1 or a 0, but many of the points brought up do appear valid.  I'm not just talking about the whole day-1 DLC thing. 

I'm still hopeful that such opinions are flames/trolling, as some avid fans keep bringing up in dismissing this.  I pre-ordered the boxed CE edition, which is still in transit, so cancelling it wasn't the easiest option (or an option now).  Nevertheless, I'm still looking forward the game to form my own opinion.  It'll be a sunk cost either way. 

The thing that bothers me to no end is how similar this is to Dragon Age 2.  Like Dragon Age 2, ME3 thus far have harnessed plenty of good critic scores from the big name reviewers out there, but have been trashed across all three platforms with overwhelmingly negative comments.  Not to speak of how both Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 were marketed (which, I feel, is probably stronger than most other titles out there), the polarity of the resonses is very concerning.  Now, I understand Portal 2 experienced something similar, but as said, some of the negative reviews actually brings forth some valid points.  Points that i cannot validate myself yet, but points that would likely significantly impact my own experiences if I were to encounter them.  Some even cite Dragon Age 2, and said the game was worst, and that made me scared.

Really, since DA2, I started doubting the "professionals" reviewing Bioware titles.  Some of the reviews I've read for said title gave me the impression that the reviewer didn't even play the game, because some of the problems were so strikingly obvious and so harped upon that there was no way they could have ignored them. 

Still looking forward to the game nonetheless, and will be trying to enjoy it as much as I can once it gets here.  Ultimately, external scores means nothing, and it's what you the player thinks that matters....

Modifié par MingWolf, 08 mars 2012 - 02:54 .

[AlanC9]

Still can't figure out why anyone cares about Metacritic user scores.

[Gigamantis]

AlanC9 wrote...

Still can't figure out why anyone cares about Metacritic user scores.

Some people are mad about trivial things in this game and they think the 4chan raid dragging down user scores validates them and their complaints. 

The honest truth is that user reviews ARE in-fact meaningless and this game will be acknowledged as great despite them.  There will always be a clique on the forums who brings it up every chance they get, same with DA2, but in the end those people won't matter at all.  They'll just be a mild annoyance to everyone else. 

[devil_foetus]

It seems to be pretty hard to find an honest review on any game these days without having to contend with certain factors and influences.

[Joy Divison]

"Let's get rid of user reviews!" Really?

Why is it that recent Bioware games get hit with a flood of 0s and 1s whereas Skyrim and TW2 are in the green?

Because the is a conspiracy against Bioware or people had "unrealistic expectations" (right...and Skyrim didn't) or they're simply annoyed at the highly questionable business practices...

It's nothing to do with the games themselves...

[Sphynx118]

Gigamantis wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Still can't figure out why anyone cares about Metacritic user scores.

Some people are mad about trivial things in this game and they think the 4chan raid dragging down user scores validates them and their complaints. 

The honest truth is that user reviews ARE in-fact meaningless and this game will be acknowledged as great despite them.  There will always be a clique on the forums who brings it up every chance they get, same with DA2, but in the end those people won't matter at all.  They'll just be a mild annoyance to everyone else. 

Da2 is mostly considered a **** game compared to DA:O.  Just wanted to bring that into your little **** bubble. And yes ofc every negative review is 4chans work. "Hurr 4chan is leeeguuun durr" 

edit:**** is censored now? wat

Modifié par Sphynx118, 08 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

Gigamantis wrote...

Some people are mad about trivial things in this game and they think the 4chan raid dragging down user scores validates them and their complaints. 

I notice that blaming 4chan for everything has become the stardard response since DA2

[Gigamantis]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Still can't figure out why anyone cares about Metacritic user scores.

Some people are mad about trivial things in this game and they think the 4chan raid dragging down user scores validates them and their complaints. 

The honest truth is that user reviews ARE in-fact meaningless and this game will be acknowledged as great despite them.  There will always be a clique on the forums who brings it up every chance they get, same with DA2, but in the end those people won't matter at all.  They'll just be a mild annoyance to everyone else. 

Da2 is mostly considered a **** game compared to DA:O.  Just wanted to bring that into your little **** bubble. And yes ofc every negative review is 4chans work. "Hurr 4chan is leeeguuun durr" 

edit:**** is censored now? wat

Hundreds of barely comprehensible negative reviews were posted WAY before any users had enough time to really play the game.  This was obviously a planned effort by a large group of sub-intelligent children.  Sounds like 4chan to me. 

And most of the people bashing DA2 just flat out say it's a horrible game, which is laughable.  The game was very different from DA:O but it was fine.  The critic reviews nailed it with a healthy stream of 'decent' ratings and the user reviews were all trolled up nonsense.  User reviews are useless.  

Modifié par Gigamantis, 08 mars 2012 - 03:11 .

[Alright-Television]

But it has everything to do with the games themselves. BioWare and EA are a games company. Their "highly questionable business practices" reflect in the products they create; from shoddy graphics to wanting to take the "game" part out completely.

Also: let's NOT get rid of user reviews. Let's get rid of scores, since those are the things that seem to make people upset the most. A bunch of illiterate whiners that need a number telling them how good something is.

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

Gigamantis wrote...

Sounds like 4chan to me. 

It's not us. Come up with a new conspiracy theory.

[Raxxman]

the games worthy of an 8.

But as has been said, BW wanted to see what happens when you pump out day 0 DLC, and provide an ending which enough people deem unsatisfactory. This happens, it's public protest. BW need to either decide that the continued negative expression of their product in the hands of a number (let's face it, it's not a few, it's a lot of people putting the effort in, I know trolling + kids with not a lot to do etc etc, but this is an unpresidented backlash) of people is outweighed by increased revenue in sales, or they need to reject the day 0 policy as too much of a minefield.

kinda simple really.

[Gigamantis]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Sounds like 4chan to me. 

It's not us. Come up with a new conspiracy theory.

Sorry, but every act of sub-intelligent trolling on the internet can and will be attributed to 4chan, even if they're not directly responsible.  It's not my fault that your people are synonymous with sub-intelligence. 

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

Gigamantis wrote...

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Sounds like 4chan to me. 

It's not us. Come up with a new conspiracy theory.

Sorry, but every act of sub-intelligent trolling on the internet can and will be attributed to 4chan, even if they're not directly responsible.  It's not my fault that your people are synonymous with sub-intelligence. 

I hope I'm not supposed to feel insulted by that

[Gigamantis]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Sounds like 4chan to me. 

It's not us. Come up with a new conspiracy theory.

Sorry, but every act of sub-intelligent trolling on the internet can and will be attributed to 4chan, even if they're not directly responsible.  It's not my fault that your people are synonymous with sub-intelligence. 

I hope I'm not supposed to feel insulted by that

Of course not.  I'm just telling you why people are going to call every brainless troll raid on the internet a 4chan raid.  Saying a site got "raided by 4chan" is just saying that dumb kids trolled it.  You don't need to pop in and cry "it wasn't actually us" every time you hear it.  

Modifié par Gigamantis, 08 mars 2012 - 03:30 .