Travie wrote...
Metacritic is the game industry 'standard' right now. As long as that is the case (and fans/critics realize that) it will be the focus for user love/anger.
Its just the way it is.
With all the 5/5 herp derp! paid reviews out there, EA has no right to complain.
AlexXIV wrote...
Truely free societies will never exist because life isn't free. You can't just do or say wherever you want wherever you go. If you left your room for once you'd probably notice that life is not like that. What you say there is a nice idea in a world of ideas. But we live in the real world. Well, most of us anyway.Cody211282 wrote...
Elton John is dead wrote...
Cody211282 wrote...
Elton John is dead wrote...
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
How about we remove every post ever made on the internet that some one didnt agree with. Last I checked this is America its your god given right to free speech!evil m0nk3y 64 wrote...
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?
you're complaning that metacritic reviews for ME3 are no longer filled with 12 year old of OMG SHEPARDS BEING FORCED TO BE GAY, ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats wrong with you?
There's a difference between hate speech and free speech. Racism and the like is hate speech. People are free to express their opinions but posting something that's simply offensive to a certain race, lifestyle or religion is pure hate speech regardless of how you try to tart it up.
Actualy it's all free speech. It could be something you don't agree with or just plain out wrong but it is still protected by the first amendment.
Thank God I don't live in America then. America's laws do not equal the law for all countries. Here in the UK, hate speech is against the law.
Now don't get me wrong I am not a fan of hate mongering/hate groups/crazies. But I think silincing them is just as bad as what they want, to live in a truley free society you need to be able to say whatever you want to without the goverment coming down on you for it.
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Your right $$$$$$$$$$$$$ talks and Obviously EA's money is worth more then a members opnion.
Super.Sid wrote...
Travie wrote...
Metacritic is the game industry 'standard' right now. As long as that is the case (and fans/critics realize that) it will be the focus for user love/anger.
Its just the way it is.
With all the 5/5 herp derp! paid reviews out there, EA has no right to complain.
A perfect 10/10 score is really dumb so why not remove those too ?
Cody211282 wrote...
Travie wrote...
Metacritic is the game industry 'standard' right now. As long as that is the case (and fans/critics realize that) it will be the focus for user love/anger.
Its just the way it is.
With all the 5/5 herp derp! paid reviews out there, EA has no right to complain.
Considering all the bad press this is going to bring it should be intresting how they deal with the second game in a row having the same thing happen to it.
Pinnatus wrote...
Cody211282 wrote...
No I'm just looking at something balanced, I have yet to find a review that states how much auto dialogue there is, the lack of conversations in comparison with the last 2 games, and how you options in almost everything have been slimmed down.
I'm fine with people thinking this game is great, I'm not ok with "professionals" leaving out information so they can give it a higher score and thus make sure they keep getting reveiw copies so they can get reviews out early.
Well, I'm not sure I believe anyone intentionally left out something to protect their review copy stream. That assumes a level of malicious intent that I simply don't think is realistic. People blather on about how reviews are fixed and paid for, and there may be some meat on those bones in some cases. By and large, though- I tend to assume there aren't any "bad actors", because otherwise I'd have to believe everyone was on the take. It simply doesn't work that way.
Anyway, I don't think that just because your pet issue isn'tcovered in reviews well gives any weight to Metacritic's reviews. The dialog options being streamlined is a very positive thing in my opinion; it used to be just a way for you to be naughty or nice, stacking up paragon or renegade points. Now dialog choices have heft to them; there may not be as many but they mean more.
If you can find value in some of the written reviews at MC, more power to you. I still think they're worse than useless because people pay attention to the numbers they generate, but the numbers are bad. Created by a bad process, poisoned by bad data, and manipulated by bad people.
JaegerBane wrote...
Super.Sid wrote...
Travie wrote...
Metacritic is the game industry 'standard' right now. As long as that is the case (and fans/critics realize that) it will be the focus for user love/anger.
Its just the way it is.
With all the 5/5 herp derp! paid reviews out there, EA has no right to complain.
A perfect 10/10 score is really dumb so why not remove those too ?
A 10/10 score is only 'dumb' if its basically some fanboy saying 'OMGZ0RZ DIS IZ DA BEST GAME EVAR'. IF it's a reasoned review with a 10/10 result then its fair game.
The issue is that a lot of the 0/10 scores come from reviews that whinge about being gay or Origin or how EA eat babies etc etc. That's just digital garbage and should be treated as such.
I know what the term means, its means if you don't bow to EA and praise the game. Your post gets removed, its plain and simple.Pinnatus wrote...
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Your right $$$$$$$$$$$$$ talks and Obviously EA's money is worth more then a members opnion.
You have no right to express yourself on someone else's property. Their site, their rules. You have no rights here or anywhere on a server owned by someone else. You are allowed to post and read at the sufferance of the owners of the system and they don't have to give you access or allow you to speak.
I really hate how many people use the term "free speech" without having even a basic understanding of what it does and does not mean.
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?
Itkovian wrote...
Furthermore, I like how if someone dislikes a game, then positive press reviews become "paid reviews", and negative reviews automatically become "honest and fair".
And that's the internet for you: it's basically impossible to find a decent source of reviews, for the simple reason that public venues have an overwhelming negative bias (people with a chip on their shoulder are always the loudest, made far worse by actual trolls).
Itkovian
Because your view of free speech is ridiculous. As if you only know of it from school or college or whatever but don't really understand what free speech is about. In reality. I said it in the other thread. There are always rules that keep people from doing stupid things. Because if we let people destroy everything, then they will destroy everything. If you defend people bashing a game in a most childish demeanor then why should I act mature towards you? Don't like fire, don't go into the kitchen. It's just amusing how you feel offended and probably have the Board rules in mind and at the same time defend those Bioware bashers over at metacritic for their 'free speech'. How comes you don't support my free speech when I say that my opinion is that you are an idiot? See what I did there? Supporting free speech when it is to your advantage is easy. I want to see you do it when it turns against you.Cody211282 wrote...
I was saying governing entites should be able to limit what you say, and the fact that you have to say i never leave my room to try to make your point is insulting as hell, why did you imediutly go after the "you never leave your room" and "dont live in the real world" attacks? It's one thing if you want to actauly arguee your point, it's another if your just instulting.
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Modifié par Cosmar, 07 mars 2012 - 06:28 .
AlexXIV wrote...
Because your view of free speech is ridiculous. As if you only know of it from school or college or whatever but don't really understand what free speech is about. In reality. I said it in the other thread. There are always rules that keep people from doing stupid things. Because if we let people destroy everything, then they will destroy everything. If you defend people bashing a game in a most childish demeanor then why should I act mature towards you? Don't like fire, don't go into the kitchen. It's just amusing how you feel offended and probably have the Board rules in mind and at the same time defend those Bioware bashers over at metacritic for their 'free speech'. How comes you don't support my free speech when I say that my opinion is that you are an idiot? See what I did there? Supporting free speech when it is to your advantage is easy. I want to see you do it when it turns against you.Cody211282 wrote...
I was saying governing entites should be able to limit what you say, and the fact that you have to say i never leave my room to try to make your point is insulting as hell, why did you imediutly go after the "you never leave your room" and "dont live in the real world" attacks? It's one thing if you want to actauly arguee your point, it's another if your just instulting.
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Jarrett Lee wrote...
One problem is people were posting impersonating EA staff (me included - ugh). Granted, most people know it's BS, but still - that's not ok, right?
FREE SPEECH? How much have you had to drink? Websites and companies aren't democracies. You post on their site, you submit to their rules. Like it should be. It's like a club, if you misbehave you can expect to get thrown out the door. Exercise your right to free speech on your own damn blog.Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?
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