Jarrett Lee wrote...
One problem is people were posting impersonating EA staff (me included - ugh). Granted, most people know it's BS, but still - that's not ok, right?
Cosmar wrote...
I just get tired of people giving it bad reviews solely because the ending didn't happen the way *they wanted it to* or somesuch crap. Most of the bad reviews came about because some fan or other got pissed about one thing they didn't like, which colored their whole view of the game and made them overlook all the good things about the game and trash it publicly just because this one aspect of the story or the gameplay didn't plan out exactly the way they wanted to. It's immature and shows that they're either children or have malfunctioning mental development.
Cosmar wrote...
I just get tired of people giving it bad reviews solely because the ending didn't happen the way *they wanted it to* or somesuch crap. Most of the bad reviews came about because some fan or other got pissed about one thing they didn't like, which colored their whole view of the game and made them overlook all the good things about the game and trash it publicly just because this one aspect of the story or the gameplay didn't plan out exactly the way they wanted to. It's immature.
meatsack wrote...
Cosmar wrote...
I just get tired of people giving it bad reviews solely because the ending didn't happen the way *they wanted it to* or somesuch crap. Most of the bad reviews came about because some fan or other got pissed about one thing they didn't like, which colored their whole view of the game and made them overlook all the good things about the game and trash it publicly just because this one aspect of the story or the gameplay didn't plan out exactly the way they wanted to. It's immature and shows that they're either children or have malfunctioning mental development.
My problem is the first 100 negative reviews were posted within a matter of hours after the games launch. There is no way anyone of of those first reviewers played before submitting their reviews.
Trolls the lot of em.
It's not illegal to say something... if you say it in a public place. Websites aren't public, they have rules and terms of service, like any company. You start bashing gays, impersonate people, or just post 0-reviews with SUXXXXX as the justification... then kindly go spout your free speech somewhere else.Cody211282 wrote...
It's fine, you can say what you want what I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something. I think you missed that point, if you don't like what someone is saying then you are also free to call them out on it, argue with them, or just ignore them and enjoy your day(hurassing someone on the other hand is not a good idea).
Yet again I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something.
I think you may have been confused with what I was trying to say
BobSmith101 wrote...
Cosmar wrote...
I just get tired of people giving it bad reviews solely because the ending didn't happen the way *they wanted it to* or somesuch crap. Most of the bad reviews came about because some fan or other got pissed about one thing they didn't like, which colored their whole view of the game and made them overlook all the good things about the game and trash it publicly just because this one aspect of the story or the gameplay didn't plan out exactly the way they wanted to. It's immature.
The endings are so full of fail on so many levels , it's a common one. Your judging user reviews by paid reviewer criteria. Users will for the most part go with emotion. Best game ever ! ME3 ? That's lol worthy. Likewise someone who is disapointed will exagerate in the other direction.
The most useful reviews are the ones that list points. That way you can just tick off what matters to you and come to a conclusion.
Autodialogue, yep plenty of that. How much it bothers you, thats the deciding factor how much it would influence a score.
Someone not bothered could easily rate the game a 9 someone who just saw their Shepards personality of 80+ hours nuked could well rate it 3 or even 0 if it completely ruined the game for them.
BobSmith101 wrote...
Cosmar wrote...
I just get tired of people giving it bad reviews solely because the ending didn't happen the way *they wanted it to* or somesuch crap. Most of the bad reviews came about because some fan or other got pissed about one thing they didn't like, which colored their whole view of the game and made them overlook all the good things about the game and trash it publicly just because this one aspect of the story or the gameplay didn't plan out exactly the way they wanted to. It's immature.
The endings are so full of fail on so many levels , it's a common one. Your judging user reviews by paid reviewer criteria. Users will for the most part go with emotion. Best game ever ! ME3 ? That's lol worthy. Likewise someone who is disapointed will exagerate in the other direction.
The most useful reviews are the ones that list points. That way you can just tick off what matters to you and come to a conclusion.
Autodialogue, yep plenty of that. How much it bothers you, thats the deciding factor how much it would influence a score.
Someone not bothered could easily rate the game a 9 someone who just saw their Shepards personality of 80+ hours nuked could well rate it 3 or even 0 if it completely ruined the game for them.
Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?
Pinnatus wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
They should, the review bombing has to stop.
It never will until Metacritic figures out that it's the height of idiocy to let every mouthbreather on the Internet write a review and rate a game without any attribution.
meatsack wrote...
http://venturebeat.c...3-user-reviews/
Quote from artical:
"In general, we want our users to play the game and then write a review
that will hopefully help give guidance to the rest of the community as
to whether the game is of high quality and is worth playing. If a user’s
review is devoid of criticism and is simply disruptive, offensive
material, we’ll remove it."
Interesting . . . .
Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...
It's not illegal to say something... if you say it in a public place. Websites aren't public, they have rules and terms of service, like any company. You start bashing gays, impersonate people, or just post 0-reviews with SUXXXXX as the justification... then kindly go spout your free speech somewhere else.Cody211282 wrote...
It's fine, you can say what you want what I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something. I think you missed that point, if you don't like what someone is saying then you are also free to call them out on it, argue with them, or just ignore them and enjoy your day(hurassing someone on the other hand is not a good idea).
Yet again I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something.
I think you may have been confused with what I was trying to say
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Sounds good.meatsack wrote...
Quote from artical:
"In general, we want our users to play the game and then write a review
that will hopefully help give guidance to the rest of the community as
to whether the game is of high quality and is worth playing. If a user’s
review is devoid of criticism and is simply disruptive, offensive
material, we’ll remove it."
Modifié par Wulfram, 07 mars 2012 - 06:41 .
BobSmith101 wrote...
Just for the record I could score ME3 0 just for the endings if I felt so inclined and would not fault anyone who did so.
We are discussiong if it is illegal? I don't think it is. Even if I say something that gets me banned it wasn't illegal, just against the site rules. My problem is people using the free speech meme for everything and actually think it is their right or something. You can almost always voice your opinion in an educated, civilized way. And I will support your right to do that every time. But you can't say what you want and when you want and to who you want. That's a difference. You can't lie, you can't harrass, you can't intimidate people. Basically like with weapons. Everyone may have the right to own a gun. But surely not everyone will have the right to shoot anyone they feel he/she 'deserves' it.Cody211282 wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
Because your view of free speech is ridiculous. As if you only know of it from school or college or whatever but don't really understand what free speech is about. In reality. I said it in the other thread. There are always rules that keep people from doing stupid things. Because if we let people destroy everything, then they will destroy everything. If you defend people bashing a game in a most childish demeanor then why should I act mature towards you? Don't like fire, don't go into the kitchen. It's just amusing how you feel offended and probably have the Board rules in mind and at the same time defend those Bioware bashers over at metacritic for their 'free speech'. How comes you don't support my free speech when I say that my opinion is that you are an idiot? See what I did there? Supporting free speech when it is to your advantage is easy. I want to see you do it when it turns against you.Cody211282 wrote...
I was saying governing entites should be able to limit what you say, and the fact that you have to say i never leave my room to try to make your point is insulting as hell, why did you imediutly go after the "you never leave your room" and "dont live in the real world" attacks? It's one thing if you want to actauly arguee your point, it's another if your just instulting.
It's fine, you can say what you want what I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something. I think you missed that point, if you don't like what someone is saying then you are also free to call them out on it, argue with them, or just ignore them and enjoy your day(hurassing someone on the other hand is not a good idea).
Yet again I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something.
I think you may have been confused with what I was trying to say
Super.Sid wrote...
JaegerBane wrote...
Super.Sid wrote...
Travie wrote...
Metacritic is the game industry 'standard' right now. As long as that is the case (and fans/critics realize that) it will be the focus for user love/anger.
Its just the way it is.
With all the 5/5 herp derp! paid reviews out there, EA has no right to complain.
A perfect 10/10 score is really dumb so why not remove those too ?
A 10/10 score is only 'dumb' if its basically some fanboy saying 'OMGZ0RZ DIS IZ DA BEST GAME EVAR'. IF it's a reasoned review with a 10/10 result then its fair game.
The issue is that a lot of the 0/10 scores come from reviews that whinge about being gay or Origin or how EA eat babies etc etc. That's just digital garbage and should be treated as such.
Only good things come out in 10/10 reviews u know coz it won't say anything about the bad things and that's what a few game sites have done.They haven't spoken on both sides and have said' 'OMGZ0RZ DIS IZ DA BEST GAME EVAR'
Baelyn wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Just for the record I could score ME3 0 just for the endings if I felt so inclined and would not fault anyone who did so.
Tread carefully. This is a "no spoiler" forum. and although not revealing details, some people dont want to even read that some think the ending is disappointing. I'd rather go in with no preconceptions.
Modifié par Super.Sid, 07 mars 2012 - 06:46 .
AlexXIV wrote...
We are discussiong if it is illegal? I don't think it is. Even if I say something that gets me banned it wasn't illegal, just against the site rules. My problem is people using the free speech meme for everything and actually think it is their right or something. You can almost always voice your opinion in an educated, civilized way. And I will support your right to do that every time. But you can't say what you want and when you want and to who you want. That's a difference. You can't lie, you can't harrass, you can't intimidate people. Basically like with weapons. Everyone may have the right to own a gun. But surely not everyone will have the right to shoot anyone they feel he/she 'deserves' it.Cody211282 wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
Because your view of free speech is ridiculous. As if you only know of it from school or college or whatever but don't really understand what free speech is about. In reality. I said it in the other thread. There are always rules that keep people from doing stupid things. Because if we let people destroy everything, then they will destroy everything. If you defend people bashing a game in a most childish demeanor then why should I act mature towards you? Don't like fire, don't go into the kitchen. It's just amusing how you feel offended and probably have the Board rules in mind and at the same time defend those Bioware bashers over at metacritic for their 'free speech'. How comes you don't support my free speech when I say that my opinion is that you are an idiot? See what I did there? Supporting free speech when it is to your advantage is easy. I want to see you do it when it turns against you.Cody211282 wrote...
I was saying governing entites should be able to limit what you say, and the fact that you have to say i never leave my room to try to make your point is insulting as hell, why did you imediutly go after the "you never leave your room" and "dont live in the real world" attacks? It's one thing if you want to actauly arguee your point, it's another if your just instulting.
It's fine, you can say what you want what I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something. I think you missed that point, if you don't like what someone is saying then you are also free to call them out on it, argue with them, or just ignore them and enjoy your day(hurassing someone on the other hand is not a good idea).
Yet again I'm saying is it shouldn't be illegal to just say something.
I think you may have been confused with what I was trying to say
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Modifié par Nuke89, 07 mars 2012 - 06:54 .
Modifié par Chris Priestly, 07 mars 2012 - 06:54 .
Chris Priestly wrote...
Well, I am glad they removed the reviews that are not accurate. For me, the problem is detecting what is or is not an "accurate" review.
As Jarrett mentioned, there were cases of people who had created accounts under names of BioWare staff and gave ME3 a zero. There were also cases that definitely were people deliberately trying to hurt ME3 for whatever reason without any actual validity to their complaint. However, it is possible that some "real" reviews were also deleted and this is wrong. While I would disagree with people who say ME3 is a bad game, I am for their ability to do so IF they have a valid complaint and can explain why it isn't good.
Personally, I think ME3 is a damned good game. I would give it a 9 or 9.5 overall (I am also of the opinion that a perfect 10 is pretty much unachievable). I would also say that no game deserves a zero and certainly not ME3. I can remember a semi-truck driving game where, among other problems, you could drive infinitely fast in revers, drive up the side of mountains, and have your head & tail lights leave your truck. This game only rated a 2 on metacritic, but it still wasn't a zero.
It is a problem on metacritic and similar sites that people with actual valid complaints and dislikes are having their complaints ignored due to "trolls" who are using the sites to only casue problems. Until thise can be fixed, I'm not sue what the solution can be.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 07 mars 2012 - 06:59 .
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