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[Alien1099]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?

Holy crap your review thread was bad enough. Now you believe there is a right to free speech on a private company's message board type service? Laugh out loud!

[Soulwatcher1974]

Alien1099 wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?

Holy crap your review thread was bad enough. Now you believe there is a right to free speech on a private company's message board type service? Laugh out loud!

You tell me what user reviews are for? Why even have a rating system if you only accept perfect reviews? The only reason why the negitive reviews were removed is because the squeeky wheel gets the grease. And EA was squeeking!

[Alien1099]

I don't think it's a matter of lack of integrity like you are insinuating. They simply don't want garbage reviews on their site. It's hard to give a review on a game minutes after it is released, especially if the game is one like ME3 which takes several hours minimum to finish, and even then, you'd have to probably skip a ton of dialogue, so who is being dishonest? Metacritic, or the jackasses that you believe should have "free speech" on their forum?

[Rickin10]

 Whilst there's a lot of trolling, homophobic bollox etc, a lot of the 0s are from people who feel that is the only way to send a message to the developers/publishers.

 Let's face it the whole system is set up to screw the consumer.  If you care about an upcoming game you can't wait for it to be released to see whether it's any good because you lose out on the CE or exclusive dlc.  And you don't know what to  think of the game before release because of morally repugnant review embargos.  Once you take the chance, get the game and find out it's riddled with bugs, the devs don't want to know unless enough people kick up enough of a stink so they have to actually do something.  All topped off by the obviously completely impartial 'pro' review sites that are in no way compromised in their views by the fact their very existance depends on publishers advertising and access to their games.  

[Soulwatcher1974]

Alien1099 wrote...

I don't think it's a matter of lack of integrity like you are insinuating. They simply don't want garbage reviews on their site. It's hard to give a review on a game minutes after it is released, especially if the game is one like ME3 which takes several hours minimum to finish, and even then, you'd have to probably skip a ton of dialogue, so who is being dishonest? Metacritic, or the jackasses that you believe should have "free speech" on their forum?

If some one pays $60+ for a game and hates it in 5 minutes they are entitled to their opnion. Forcing some one to play the entire game even though they hate it is stupid. Thats like saying you need to drive a new car 100k miles before you write a review.

If you admit it or not the game is a far cry from Biowares past work. The game is obviously influnced by EA and I am 100% sure we would be playing a totally different game if Bioware were still their own company.

A lot of long time Bioware fans feel betrayed and they should be entitled to their opnion!

Modifié par Soulwatcher1974, 07 mars 2012 - 09:48 .

[Thalandor21]

All the "0" scores are exagerations as far as numerical scores go, but for these reasons alone the "0" are well deserved:

1. Paid day 1 DLC that has lore critical content, which was obviously removed from the game to be sold seperately, and bioware denying this (how moron do you think we are !)

2. The gay romances can be very offensive to people who don't like them. A better way to implement this is to ask the player during character creation what the sexual orientation of their character is (hetero, ******, bi), then have the game adapt to it. So if you say "Hetero", you won't be hit on by the guys. It's like in real life you know, gay people don't hit on me because it's easy for them to tell that I'm clearly not into guys.

3. The fact that points 1 and 2 have been recurring in all of their past releases and people are fed up with this. Personnaly it was clear to me before purchasing ME3 that this was my last Electronic Arts game, simply because of their aggressive marketing ploys and overpriced DLC. I bought ME3 because I needed to finish the story. Never bought a single DLC.

4. Having to install Origin. Now I must run both Steam and Origin on my PC, it's just very very annoying.

[senshi10]

P1NG wrote...

If so many people are 100% behind the game then why aren't their equal number of people posting their own user reviews? If you are taking to time to check the site, get upset about someone else's opinion that you find invalid, but instead of posting your opinion (which would change the score to possibly favor what you think it should be) you come here to whine that they are all trolls and haters.

I am not because I am simply done with metacritic.  The last couple of years have proven to me it is nothing but a haven for trolls and butthurt bashers.  If everyone would just let the trolls give their 0's and not worry about trying to "right" the review ship it would quickly be seen for what it is.  Then game companies can stop worrying about metacritc users and start worrying about fans. 

Example.  DA2 was not Biowares greatest outing but it was not such a terrible game.  If the users had voted with 6's or 7's instead of 0's and 1's it would have sent such a stronger message.  Instead we get whiney incoherent reviews from idiots which causes the people who actually thought the game deserved a 7 or 8 to give it a 10 further screwing up the score.  That does not send the same message as an average but dissapointing score from an above average developer.

[Alien1099]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

I don't think it's a matter of lack of integrity like you are insinuating. They simply don't want garbage reviews on their site. It's hard to give a review on a game minutes after it is released, especially if the game is one like ME3 which takes several hours minimum to finish, and even then, you'd have to probably skip a ton of dialogue, so who is being dishonest? Metacritic, or the jackasses that you believe should have "free speech" on their forum?

If some one pays $60+ for a game and hates it in 5 minutes they are entitled to their opnion. Forcing some one to play the entire game even though they hate it is stupid. Thats like saying you need to drive a new car 100k miles before you write a review.

If you admit it or not the game is a far cry from Biowares past work. The game is obviously influnced by EA and I am 100% sure we would be playing a totally different game if Bioware were still their own company.

A lot of long time Bioware fans feel betrayed and they should be entitled to their opnion!

I guess you don't know what an honest review is. You barely get past the initial cinematic after 5 minutes. I am very open and honest when it comes to the shortcomings of various games, movies, and other products. Giving a review after 5 minutes of gameplay is the equivilant of giving a review on a tool or something else with only having handled it and not actually used it. It woudl be like reviewing a car by only opening the door and having a look inside. Your 100k comparison is a joke. Might as well say you need to be married to the car and have babies with it to review it. It makes about as much sense. Nobody said you had to finish the finish a game to give your opinion on it, but if you are going to REVIEW it, you SHOULD finish it or at least play it a lot longer than 5 minutes.

I am the first person to say what a let down and disappointment Dragon Age 2 was for example. Does DA2 deserve a zero? Uh no. Does it deserve a 6.5-7? Yes. Same with the last Aliens vs Predator game. I am a HUGE Aliens fan. AVP was a complete and utter disappointment to me. I only finished the Marine campaign and played the Alien campaign for 20-25 minutes before closing the game forever. I'd still give the game a 6.5. That is a much more honest score on a 1-10 scale.

Giving a game with the scope and scale of ME3 a score of zero or 1 after playing it for 5 minutes is the epitome of dishonesty. The game is not that bad. I can say whatever car you choose to drive is a piece of crap. That does not make it so. Most of the people that gave it zeroes or ones have probably have as much experience with ME3 as I do with whatever car you drive.

I've been playing Bioware games since KotOR. I do not feel betrayed in the slightest with ME3. If that is how you feel, you need to reassess where you are in the world and do something to change that.

Would you honestly give a crap about somebody's opinion on somethin when they haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to using it? So why would their opinion be valid on a review site? I only played Rage for 30 minutes after I paid $60 for it. You don't see me attempting to try and review it. I barely did anything. The most I can say is it was uninteresting and that the prerelease info about the game being sandbox style was dishonest.

Modifié par Alien1099, 07 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[Tezlaa]

So many freaks giving gamers a bad name. I mean cmon, who actually creates a metacritic account and spam rates games with 0's. They need to get a grip

[JenMaxon]

OdanUrr wrote...

Bottom line, I believe I can judge for myself the merits of a user's review.

Yes. 

I've been over there just recently.  I don't know about 'useless reviews' - maybe it's because they've already been pruned but a lot of the reviews seemed to contain useful information to me.  And, just reading through a good few, you get a strong impression that there's a lot of disappointment around the game.  Seems fair enough to me.

[Naqey]

yeah good one metacritic, delete the 0 score reviews of mass effect.
and then do the same with every other ****ing game like modern warfare 3 (sure its not a 10 or a 9, but 4.x, really?) dragon age 2, final fantasy 13-2 etc. etc.
almost EVERY aaa game these days get **** reviews, why not delete them?
...

[Soulwatcher1974]

Alien1099 wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

I don't think it's a matter of lack of integrity like you are insinuating. They simply don't want garbage reviews on their site. It's hard to give a review on a game minutes after it is released, especially if the game is one like ME3 which takes several hours minimum to finish, and even then, you'd have to probably skip a ton of dialogue, so who is being dishonest? Metacritic, or the jackasses that you believe should have "free speech" on their forum?

If some one pays $60+ for a game and hates it in 5 minutes they are entitled to their opnion. Forcing some one to play the entire game even though they hate it is stupid. Thats like saying you need to drive a new car 100k miles before you write a review.

If you admit it or not the game is a far cry from Biowares past work. The game is obviously influnced by EA and I am 100% sure we would be playing a totally different game if Bioware were still their own company.

A lot of long time Bioware fans feel betrayed and they should be entitled to their opnion!

I guess you don't know what an honest review is. You barely get past the initial cinematic after 5 minutes. I am very open and honest when it comes to the shortcomings of various games, movies, and other products. Giving a review after 5 minutes of gameplay is the equivilant of giving a review on a tool or something else with only having handled it and not actually used it. It woudl be like reviewing a car by only opening the door and having a look inside. Your 100k comparison is a joke. Might as well say you need to be married to the car and have babies with it to review it. It makes about as much sense. Nobody said you had to finish the finish a game to give your opinion on it, but if you are going to REVIEW it, you SHOULD finish it or at least play it a lot longer than 5 minutes.

I am the first person to say what a let down and disappointment Dragon Age 2 was for example. Does DA2 deserve a zero? Uh no. Does it deserve a 6.5-7? Yes. Same with the last Aliens vs Predator game. I am a HUGE Aliens fan. AVP was a complete and utter disappointment to me. I only finished the Marine campaign and played the Alien campaign for 20-25 minutes before closing the game forever. I'd still give the game a 6.5. That is a much more honest score on a 1-10 scale.

Giving a game with the scope and scale of ME3 a score of zero or 1 after playing it for 5 minutes is the epitome of dishonesty. The game is not that bad. I can say whatever car you choose to drive is a piece of crap. That does not make it so. Most of the people that gave it zeroes or ones have probably have as much experience with ME3 as I do with whatever car you drive.

I've been playing Bioware games since KotOR. I do not feel betrayed in the slightest with ME3. If that is how you feel, you need to reassess where you are in the world and do something to change that.

We obviously have very different opnions, here is another analogy for you. How can you buy a new car based on a 15 minute test drive. You clearly do not know the car or how its going to handle in the snow,rain,wind. But people buy new cars baised on 15 minute test drives every day.

If a person hates a game in 5 minutes, playing the game for another 40hrs is not going to change their mind. You either like it or you dont. Myself I hate RTS games, I never played Starcraft. But I can tell you this much I hate it and no amount of play time is going to change my mind.

ME3 throws you into combat right away, you either like it or you dont. Its simple really!

[Fishy]

Personnaly. I would have professional review/User review /Opinions ..

To be in the 'user review' column .. You would need to be acknowledged for 10 different review with 10 positive score of each review. That would  eliminate most of  the bad one(  The bad one mean I HATE THIS GAME SOCK SOCK SOCK WOOT WOOT) and still allow everyone to say what they want to say in the opinion column.

I think great user review are important. So they need to keep it but get ride of the trash.
So if you're that insecure and want so hard to be acknowledged you can still yap your BS in the opinions column.

Modifié par Suprez30, 07 mars 2012 - 10:40 .

[Ricvenart]

Chris Priestly wrote...

 (I am also of the opinion that a perfect 10 is pretty much unachievable).

Out of curiousity then, do you consider a number of the "professional" reviews invalid too?

I don't think it's unachievable, there should be some way to get it but only if it deserves it, the number of 10/10 100/100 that Skyrim got was a complete joke to call it perfect and deny the multitude of bugs that and honest Bethesda fan would have told you too expect. They had an oppurtunity to prove them wrong and failed, unlike Bioware who managed to prove me oh so wrong with just a taster of Multiplayer.

[Vicex]

At least EA/Bioware are not begging their fans to give a good review like another publisher/developer...

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

Thalandor21 wrote...

All the "0" scores are exagerations as far as numerical scores go

It's the internet. You score it 10 if you like it and 0 if you don't.

[AlexXIV]

I1 Trust wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

You tell me what user reviews are for? Why even have a rating system if you only accept perfect reviews? The only reason why the negitive reviews were removed is because the squeeky wheel gets the grease. And EA was squeeking!

Metacritic is doing the right thing removing these "reviews".
But yeah, EA is definitely getting a special treatment. Metacritic never did this for any other game before. <_<

Because people freak out. If metacritic want to maintain some sort of integrity they have to clean out the trash. Not sure if that ever happened before but obviously alot of people are mad that ME is no RPG. Bioware never even said it is an RPG. They sell it as a hybrid or shooter with RPG elements. And then you get some smartass that makes a thread 'Review from a hardcore RPer'. Hardcore seriously? It's not an RPG. I'd like to shout 'Get out of here and review CoD!'

Really, if Bioware decides they want to make this kind of game then people should let them and either buy and play or not. But not freak out because they want Bioware to make an RPG when Bioware doesn't want to.

[Rockworm503]

Cody211282 wrote...

Honestly I think the game deserves to be review bombed(I think its a 5 but all thecritic reviews are way to high). I wouldn't say it's DA2 bad, but that's only because DA2 came first.

OT: I wonder how long that policy has been in effect for?

So it deserves to be called so bad that it is literally going to bring civilization down? 

real review said that.
and you think thats justfyied  because you were disapointed.
Ok then

[Elvis_Mazur]

Ha, not impressed. Some people just like to hide negative opinions. They like to think everything is OK.

[Rockworm503]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?

By all rights complain.
Just don't call it a review if you didn't even play the game.
I hate this first day DLC business but I'm not going to take that hatred and write a review aroud it...

[DaJe]

So are they only doing that for ME3 or all games that they are listing?
And will that also apply to 10/10 reviews before a game is out or reviews like "10/10 yay gay pride gay pride gay pride gay pride..."? I have nothing against same sex romance in the game at all but a review like that is garbage as well.

It is quite suspicious that this happens now...

Modifié par DaJe, 07 mars 2012 - 11:08 .

[Sidney]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

You tell me what user reviews are for? Why even have a rating system if you only accept perfect reviews? The only reason why the negitive reviews were removed is because the squeeky wheel gets the grease. And EA was squeeking!

It isn't that they only accept perfect reviews, they are reviewing them for any relavant content. Some nimrod who just posts "Day 1 DLC SUX!!!!!!!" isn't adding anything to the dialog with the reader who wants to know if the game is any good. Plenty of sites are moderated a review the content they will host for usefulness or approriateness.

[Rockworm503]

Mesina2 wrote...

I have a question.

Who cares about Metacritic?

Apperantly everyone as there's so many threads popping up about it.

[Soulwatcher1974]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Great so they take the right of free speech away because EA complained?

By all rights complain.
Just don't call it a review if you didn't even play the game.
I hate this first day DLC business but I'm not going to take that hatred and write a review aroud it...

How do you know if they played the game or not? I registered my game on Orgin and guess what it didnt register here. The only way I knew to register it here is because I Bioware employee told me you have to register in both places. Which is very redundant!

And as I stated to the other guy with the the first 5 minutes of the game your in combat. You either like the game or hate it. Playing a game you hate for the next 40hrs is not going to change a persons mind.