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[Justin2k]

So it looks like Bioware went all out on Mass Effect 3 to attract

The competitive multiplayer market
The gears of war market
The gay gamer market
The fast paced action gamer market
The casual gamer market
The people that are addicted to buying DLC packs in the hope they get a certain character market.

All well and great.  Loads of new players and loads of money for you hopefully.  But just like in Dragon Age 2, you forgot one market.  You know, the old faithful market that buy all your games, love all your games and really just wanted a decent ending to something we started playing 6 years ago, a decent face for Tali that shows some imagination, a reflection that our choices mattered and most importantly the conversation system we've been using for the whole series.

Seriously what were you thinking?  "They are going to buy it regardless, we've got their money in the bank, lets concentrate on making money elsewhere"?  Because thats what it seems like.  Do this stuff on a new franchise by all means, but come off it, you don't even give us a decent ending?  Or maybe you're planning on selling it to us later?  It's bad business and people will stop buying your stuff.

[beank]

The only new market that they pandered to is the multiplayer market....

Though I do agree that the choices should have mattered a little more that what they did....

[ParkerArt]

I really want to love this game but the little things keep bothering me.

[RocketManSR2]

I love the game. Wait, does that mean I'm not a "true fan" like the TC???

[melisma]

'Gay gamers' is not a separate category from 'the fanbase'. If you think that gay people didn't play Mass Effect before, you're very much mistaken.

[Justin2k]

melisma wrote...

'Gay gamers' is not a separate category from 'the fanbase'. If you think that gay people didn't play Mass Effect before, you're very much mistaken.

I have no issue with gays, don't start that.  I'm saying that they added all the gay relationship stuff as a way to appeal to the gay market who were not already playing Mass Effect.

And tbh, the gay people who play are a very small minority and the speech options given in the gay relationships could have been put to better use by having more speech options in the game for every player to see tbh.

[Fox544]

As much as I love the game (except the fully stupid multiplayer) ME3 seems more like EA's game instead of Bioware's game.

[Unicronshepard]

they just kind of slammed the "gay"thing in your face, with no buildup or really any reason.

I'm not against gay people, on either side, but its like religion, do what you do and enjoy being who you are, but i dont need you to stand in front of my face jumping and waving your arms screaming "LOOK AT ME, HEY, HEY, HEY LOOK"

they dont have jo-ho's banging on the airlock, why did they need to be so over-the-top this time?

[Justin2k]

Unicronshepard wrote...

they just kind of slammed the "gay"thing in your face, with no buildup or really any reason.

I'm not against gay people, on either side, but its like religion, do what you do and enjoy being who you are, but i dont need you to stand in front of my face jumping and waving your arms screaming "LOOK AT ME, HEY, HEY, HEY LOOK"

they dont have jo-ho's banging on the airlock, why did they need to be so over-the-top this time?

Exactly.  They weren't interested in gay gamers or writing a realistic gay storyline.  They just wanted to attract new people to the game because Dragon Age got a lot of positive reviews for having gay characters.  The fact that some of these characters were completely straight in ME1 didn't even matter.  It was shoehorned in, just like the multiplayer and everything else, to squeeze more money.

I have nothing against companies making money, but it's a joke to put all these additional extras in the final game of a series and neglect to put in a conversation system or a decent ending to the story.

[Justin2k]

double post

Modifié par Justin2k, 08 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[Abirn]

Justin2k wrote...

melisma wrote...

'Gay gamers' is not a separate category from 'the fanbase'. If you think that gay people didn't play Mass Effect before, you're very much mistaken.

I have no issue with gays, don't start that.  I'm saying that they added all the gay relationship stuff as a way to appeal to the gay market who were not already playing Mass Effect.

And tbh, the gay people who play are a very small minority and the speech options given in the gay relationships could have been put to better use by having more speech options in the game for every player to see tbh.

I perfer to think of it as "flipping conservatives the bird" market.  Of which I'm a huge part of.

[Toyou4you]

Well, sorry if you expected to have Mass Effect 3 come and give you cupcakes.
You probably had your expectations to high as long with all the trolls.
DON'T YOU EVER SPEAK FOR ME AGAIN I'M A MEMBER OF THE FANBASE AND I LOVE THIS GAME SO NEVER SPEAK FOR ME AGAIN

[What a Succulent Ass]

How in the bloody hell was the "gay thing" slammed "in your face"? There are a lot of this that get rammed down your throat in this game, but homosexual relationships? That's a laugh.

This is why no one is taking ME3's criticisms seriously.

[Justin2k]

Sparatus wrote...

I always found the ****ing about the gay romances hilarious. Considering that Bioware made an entire race of magical blue space lesbians. And they have been there for day one.

I don't care about gay relationships, don't turn it into that.  I'm totally fine with gay people, I have many gay friends.

And they'd be insulted that a gay relationship plays out the way it does in ME3 tbh, but thats besides the point.

The point is, we have never had this feature in Mass Effect.  Adding it in the third installment is fine, but not at the expense of the things that are really important to the majority of the players, i.e conversation choices and a decent ending.

Gay relationships were just one of many unneccessary things they put in that detracted from the game being like the two before it.  They would be better off having left it out, and including it from the very beginning of their next franchise, and writing the characters to be gay from the start rather than just "hey shepard, i'm gay now!!" right at the end.

[beank]

Toyou4you wrote...
You probably had your expectations to high as long with all the trolls.

Whats wrong with having high expectations?

[Sean]

melisma wrote...

'Gay gamers' is not a separate category from 'the fanbase'. If you think that gay people didn't play Mass Effect before, you're very much mistaken.

It is like Dragon Age 2, they altered characters so they could be a romance option for any sex.  They had gay relationships in DAO but they made it just into a very small portion of the character and it didn't define the character. That changed in DA2 because Bioware was catering to the gay community.  Not saying there shouldn't be the option for gay people but it should be with new character not by altering existing characters.

[piemanz]

I'm "The fanbase" and i love it. Whats hilarious about this thread is that you can tell that bioware really lisened to the fanbase. Hell, i'ts virtually a love letter to ME1 with a gay romance thrown in.

[Chozo_Hybrid]

You missed straight gamer market, I assume my male shep can still get with the ladies. Games not here until tomorrow.

[HolyAvenger]

I'm part of the core fanbase and I find the game pretty appealing.

[Justin2k]

piemanz wrote...

I'm "The fanbase" and i love it. Whats hilarious about this thread is that you can tell that bioware really lisened to the fanbase. Hell, i'ts virtually a love letter to ME1 with a gay romance thrown in.

You didn't see the ending yet i take it.

[piemanz]

Justin2k wrote...

piemanz wrote...

I'm "The fanbase" and i love it. Whats hilarious about this thread is that you can tell that bioware really lisened to the fanbase. Hell, i'ts virtually a love letter to ME1 with a gay romance thrown in.

You didn't see the ending yet i take it.

Whats being pissed about the ending got to do with not catering to the "fanbase"?

If they'd listened to the fanbase for the endings there would be roughly 45 endings.

Modifié par piemanz, 08 mars 2012 - 01:50 .

[Mercedes-Benz]

Yes. That's because Bioware consider us all stupid and think we will continue automatically buying their games forever. I won't. Enough is enough.