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[redsox95MB]

Wrong. You are simply wrong. I have been buying Bioware games for a while now, and I started the Mass Effect series with the first one. And I happen to L-O-V-E Mass Effect 3!

[What a Succulent Ass]

Fox544 wrote...

You must not have played long lol. Then again I've only run into 3. Cortez, Presidium commons, and embassies in act 2.

Four whole gay people.

Someone call the police.

[Nachtritter76]

mellodejavu wrote...

Nachtritter76 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

So it looks like Bioware went all out on Mass Effect 3 to attract

The competitive multiplayer market
The gears of war market
The gay gamer market
The fast paced action gamer market
The casual gamer market
The people that are addicted to buying DLC packs in the hope they get a certain character market.

All well and great.  Loads of new players and loads of money for you hopefully.  But just like in Dragon Age 2, you forgot one market.  You know, the old faithful market that buy all your games, love all your games and really just wanted a decent ending to something we started playing 6 years ago, a decent face for Tali that shows some imagination, a reflection that our choices mattered and most importantly the conversation system we've been using for the whole series.

Seriously what were you thinking?  "They are going to buy it regardless, we've got their money in the bank, lets concentrate on making money elsewhere"?  Because thats what it seems like.  Do this stuff on a new franchise by all means, but come off it, you don't even give us a decent ending?  Or maybe you're planning on selling it to us later?  It's bad business and people will stop buying your stuff.

Wake up and smell the coffee. The choices you made in ME1 barely ever mattered in ME2 either. Whether it was Ashley/Kaidan, Udina/Anderson, Rachni kill/save, or Council die/live ... Barely any of that mattered, you'd get a nod here and there, and it would change a line or two of dialogue maybe. But the universe remained mostly unchanged. Whether humanity was leading or the council stayed the same wasn't the game-changer the end of ME1 would have led us to believe.

It's like in Skyrim --- you can ally with the Stormcloaks or the Imperials, but the world runs just the same afterwards anyway.

Forget big world changing choices. These cannot happen unless they'd put massive work and budget on huge parts of the game that a majority of people might not even experience.

Like many of us, wake up and stop believing the hype. Enjoy these games if you can, for what they're worth, and don't expect more than has been demonstrated before --- or go play some tabletop RPGs, because those are the only ones where your choices actually MAKE the game.

The whole point of the series was to have your decisions carry through and have large impact. Even if they didn't show much in ME 2, 3 should have been where the payoff came. This game series has been successful enough to where the budget could have easily allowed to let the choices be seen through in major ways. I don't even see how you could think otherwise. Apparently it was more important to spend all that money on Advertising as well as getting Freddie Prinze Jr. and Jessica Chobot in. There is far too much evidence that Bioware had cut corners and the game's quality has definitely suffered for it.

The whole point of the series was kinda disproven in ME2.  The budget went a lot into 'HAI PRODUKSHUN! GRATE GRAFICKS! AMAYZEENG LENZFLAYR!!! QKWALITEE ANIMAYSHUUN! VOYSE ACTEENG! BEEG NAYMZ!!!'

I don't think they cut corners. I think it was a very expensive series to make, but to make the games reflect the choices in realistic and properly reflected ways on that level of production might have needed way more money than it was worth. Just IMHO.

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

That's because they know we'll buy it anyway. No need to pander to us.

[Chris Priestly]

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

[Kcind]

Directed at the gay-gamer market? Hmm, well I guess as a straight gamer (who loved ME3 as much as 1 & 2) I better go break my disk.

[aksoileau]

Justin2k = fan, But he does not = the fanbase.

[Sargerus]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

I think i speak for the majority regarding the endings and how you guys screw the whole thing up :innocent:

Modifié par Sargerus, 08 mars 2012 - 02:41 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

[denouement1]

Justin2k wrote...

So it looks like Bioware went all out on Mass Effect 3 to attract

The competitive multiplayer market
The gears of war market
The gay gamer market
The fast paced action gamer market
The casual gamer market
The people that are addicted to buying DLC packs in the hope they get a certain character market.

All well and great.  Loads of new players and loads of money for you hopefully.  But just like in Dragon Age 2, you forgot one market.  You know, the old faithful market that buy all your games, love all your games and really just wanted a decent ending to something we started playing 6 years ago, a decent face for Tali that shows some imagination, a reflection that our choices mattered and most importantly the conversation system we've been using for the whole series.

Seriously what were you thinking?  "They are going to buy it regardless, we've got their money in the bank, lets concentrate on making money elsewhere"?  Because thats what it seems like.  Do this stuff on a new franchise by all means, but come off it, you don't even give us a decent ending?  Or maybe you're planning on selling it to us later?  It's bad business and people will stop buying your stuff.

I love you.

[J5550123]

Sargerus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

I think i speak for the majority regarding the endings and how you guys screw the whole thing up :innocent:

The game was amazing up until the ending. And most people on the forums have said that they hate or dislike the endings. There is a poll on the forum that proves it, but it has spoilers.

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[Korusus]

 I feel mixed about it, Mass Effect has always been about BioWare's pandering to the console Halo-vized market so the direction they've taken can hardly be a surprise (they should just keep it to Mass Effect and stop letting it spill over into other series...coughcough).  I've always had low expectations for the series so I'm not surprised by the lack of dialogue options, auto-dialogue, or anything really.  I've gotten a good story out of it so that's all I really care about.  

What's most surprising to me about Mass Effect is how as the series has evolved alongside BioWare's own evolution to the point now that I look at a game that I always considered RPG-lite (Mass Effect 1) and realize that it's a superior RPG to what BioWare spits out these days.  Sad times.

(Equally surprising is how that other BioWare game that just came out does a better job of keeping to BioWare's roots than its two main single-player series...odd that).

[cotheer]

Sargerus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

I think i speak for the majority regarding the endings and how you guys screw the whole thing up :innocent:

It's funny.
There is always time for pointless response but when it comes to posting explanations for some serious issues with the/a game, they're nowhere to be found, aside from Mr. EOL ofc.

[Gigamantis]

A broader scope of appeal is every game developers goal. If the original fanbase can't accept anything that isn't an exclusive love letter to them then screw the original fanbase.

[Nachtritter76]

Sargerus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

I think i speak for the majority regarding the endings and how you guys screw the whole thing up :innocent:

I haven't played the game yet. Heck, haven't even bought it after I cancelled my pre-order. The endings alone make me doubt whether I ever will. No, Mac. It's not JUST the journey. The destination DOES matter too. And the endings to ME3... Well, this is a no-spoiler forum, so we won't go into detail. Anyway. If BW ever does add more, maybe I'll consider buying it. As for now, the ME series leaves me with a bitter taste. Not bittersweet. Just bitter.

Anyway, gonna go play some WFRP.

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

cotheer wrote...

It's funny.
There is always time for pointless response but when it comes to posting explanations for some serious issues with the/a game, they're nowhere to be found, aside from Mr. EOL ofc.

Ain't that the truth

[J5550123]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

cotheer wrote...

It's funny.
There is always time for pointless response but when it comes to posting explanations for some serious issues with the/a game, they're nowhere to be found, aside from Mr. EOL ofc.

Ain't that the truth

You'd think they would have commented by now on how angry many people are about the endings.

[Davidicus]

aksoileau wrote...

Justin2k = fan, But he does not = the fanbase.

Justin2k = bitter vet. It's really a testament to how well BioWare did with the first (and probably second) games that he is so passionate.

Honestly, these kinds of threads are really to be expected. Yes, ME3 is a bit different, just like ME2 was different from ME1. Yes, you may not like the endings that have been revealed (you seriously don't think you've discovered everything, have you?). Yes, the dreaded AUTO-DIALOGUE might take a bit of character development control away, but let's face it. Shepard's story needs to end, and that requires a bit of not-so-subtle shoehorning. If you had an open-ended game, well, yeah, you could develop your character with a lot more freedom. But this is a story, a movie, almost, so treat it as such and you won't be quite as disappointed.

[AlanC9]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

/thread?

[gabe2gg]

cotheer wrote...

Sargerus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Justin 2k seems to think he speaks for everyone.

Justin, you speak for yourself.

Sorry you didn't liek it as much as we hoped you would.

I think i speak for the majority regarding the endings and how you guys screw the whole thing up :innocent:

It's funny.
There is always time for pointless response but when it comes to posting explanations for some serious issues with the/a game, they're nowhere to be found, aside from Mr. EOL ofc.

this.

[AlanC9]

Ain't reached the endings, so I can't comment. But if you're going to complain about the ending, this is the wrong board.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

I agree to an extent, but I dont think its as bad as you put it.

Although you do definitely notice the difference in ME3 just because they wanted to appeal to the fast paced shooter crowd. Which I think is ok, EXCEPT when it alters(not just "adds") from the SP experience we all know and love. Which it did. Not horribly so, but it does kinda sucks now that we cant even go back and actually talk with most characters unless they have something new to say. =P


As for the gay thing, I think they should have gave us an option or something to indicate whether our character was gay or not. Now I have NOTHING against gay ppl AT ALL, ok? Homophobia is not why ppl have a problem with the feature, its just now that every character we know is suddenly "gay", it makes for very awkward moments. Just yesterday I was talking with Garrus(right after I recruited him), and it ended with him saying something like "when this is all over I'm gonna drink you under the table" ..... ๏_๏

Now I know its my choice if I pursue a romance with him, but the thing is I wasnt. I was aware of same-sex relationships before playing the game, that said I was just exploring conversation options which seemed normal. If I had known giving a paragon reply about him talking about his world dying would spark a romance, I wouldnt have done it at all lol. I guess what I'm saying is Bioware should have at least made it more obvious. Now I'm worried about everyone I talk to, for all I know I might spark the Illusive Man's interest. ._.

Aside from those small things though, its still a great game. I shall enjoy it to its fullest, most awesomest potential. =D

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 08 mars 2012 - 03:22 .

[sp0ck 06]

Any real fan of the Mass Effect series who doesn't enjoy the story moments of this game is, well, not a fan of the Mass Effect series. Seriously, OP have you played the game? Sounds like you've been spending too much time reading all the narrowminded raging on these forums.