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 Now by perfect, I don't mean I did every single aching probe side mission (although I did a fair amount of that) but I did get my galactic readiness level up in multiplayer to 100% and promoted my Infiltrator class as well when I got them to level 20.

My Military Level or whatever it was called was actually over 6000 - more than enough for the absolute threshold of perfect which is 5000.

It took me I'm guessing around 25 hours to beat, as I'm standing right before the final mission and it says 23 hours and 34 minutes - plus, add on 2-4 hours for multiplayer and you have I'm guessing a 29-30 hour gameplay to get this ending.  Bear in mind I imported my Shepard who I built through the first two games, did all the dlc for both and nearly all the side missions.  I was prepared for this.

I also went ahead and spoiled myself on the endings and some details about a week and a half before the 5th (which is when mine unlocked thanks to a VPN I used).  Like many others, I was disappointed and at first pretty angry about the endings, and how they seemed to end on sour notes.  As many of you are well aware, a good portion of fans are not pleased, or at least have mixed responses to the endings.   At first, I didn't like them either.  A galactic dark age for everyone?  Shepard can only live if all the synthetics, including the geth and EDI, die?  What a load of ****, this has to be made up!

But I found out after a few days they were very much NOT made up, so I was glad I got my anger out of the way.  However, as I look back on it, I am incredibly depressed now.   At first, I was prepared for the endings well in advance - I went through the five stages and accepted that this was reality, and there was no way to circumvent it.  Now though, I feel such depression that while I'm not going to cry, it was almost a possibility for a moment.

I understand Bioware wanted emotions, but this wasn't the way to go about it, especailly on the 100% perfect "happy" ending that didn't even feel bittersweet.

I romanced Tali, and boy, did they go all out on it.   Unlike many previous Bioware games, including Mass Effect 2, Romance wasn't just "talk to someone a lot, then flirt and get it on before the big finale" sort of deal.   You felt like Shepard and his LI (in my case Tali) were really in love with one another, and that in spite of a galaxy on the brink of destruction, they wanted to hope for a better future.  Alas, that is not the case here, as even though the Normandy crash landed on a seemingly well tropical planet, and despite the fact if we ignore Dextro-Amino incompatibilites that may or may not be there, there still remains the issue that Shepard and Tali will never get to build a home on Rannoch, or Earth, or merely spend time with one another.

I also felt like, in order to have the slimmest hope of my Shepard and Tali being together, I had to not only wipe out the Geth (whom I helped give sentience and had been defending all game long, nullyfying Legion's sacrifice) I also had to kill EDI, whom I had grown to enjoy as a character, sexbot claims be damned.   So really, yes I understand Bioware wanted "difficult" decisions, but this seemed a little too grim for a "happy" ending.   

The gameplay is wonderful, the character development and intereactions are great, the setpieces are cinematic and lovely... you feel really caught up in the story, and yet, the looming disappointment of the endings were still there.  

Personally, I think it was an awful way to end a beloved trilogy such as this, and it will be a shame that it will more than likely be many years before Bioware touches Mass Effect again, with Dragon Age 3 and rumors of Baldurs Gate 3 both being on the horizon.   I just wanted to see if my Shepard would ever get back together with his old friend Garrus, or live out the rest of his days peacefully with Tali, whom I swear that they made their romance INCREDIBLE.   Tali fans are in for a major treat with this, but if you're of a weaker will than me you will probably cry at the end due to the incredibly sad note it ends on.  You can tell they really want to be together, and Bioware decided "lolnope".

Personally, I'll be headcannoning that the Normandy sets off a distress beacon that years from there, Shepard arrives and gets all his old crew out of there.  FTL still works, but it'll be limited.  Hopefully that planet isn't too far from Earth. 

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Thank you for this. I hadn't been planning to do my "Talimance" playthrough, but now I think I will just to experience this.

I'm sorry it was disappointing for you, but worth the money at least, I hope? I found myself a little underwhelmed at the end as well, to say the least.

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Witty_Remark wrote...

Thank you for this. I hadn't been planning to do my "Talimance" playthrough, but now I think I will just to experience this.

I'm sorry it was disappointing for you, but worth the money at least, I hope? I found myself a little underwhelmed at the end as well, to say the least.


Was it worth the 79.99 I paid for the DDE?  That... is difficult.

I enjoyed the story, the gameplay, the interactions, all of it was just sooo good... but the endings really give me a mixed bag feeling overall about the game.

I WANT to give it a good rating or score, but the endings and the feelings it left me just prevent me from doing that.   I wouldn't say it's an awful game, but the endings really do affect the rest of your journey.

It certainly doesn't make me want to play through the first two again, simply because i know how it all ends.

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Templar Fox wrote...

 Now by perfect, I don't mean I did every single aching probe side mission (although I did a fair amount of that) but I did get my galactic readiness level up in multiplayer to 100% and promoted my Infiltrator class as well when I got them to level 20.

My Military Level or whatever it was called was actually over 6000 - more than enough for the absolute threshold of perfect which is 5000.

It took me I'm guessing around 25 hours to beat, as I'm standing right before the final mission and it says 23 hours and 34 minutes - plus, add on 2-4 hours for multiplayer and you have I'm guessing a 29-30 hour gameplay to get this ending.  Bear in mind I imported my Shepard who I built through the first two games, did all the dlc for both and nearly all the side missions.  I was prepared for this.

I also went ahead and spoiled myself on the endings and some details about a week and a half before the 5th (which is when mine unlocked thanks to a VPN I used).  Like many others, I was disappointed and at first pretty angry about the endings, and how they seemed to end on sour notes.  As many of you are well aware, a good portion of fans are not pleased, or at least have mixed responses to the endings.   At first, I didn't like them either.  A galactic dark age for everyone?  Shepard can only live if all the synthetics, including the geth and EDI, die?  What a load of ****, this has to be made up!

But I found out after a few days they were very much NOT made up, so I was glad I got my anger out of the way.  However, as I look back on it, I am incredibly depressed now.   At first, I was prepared for the endings well in advance - I went through the five stages and accepted that this was reality, and there was no way to circumvent it.  Now though, I feel such depression that while I'm not going to cry, it was almost a possibility for a moment.

I understand Bioware wanted emotions, but this wasn't the way to go about it, especailly on the 100% perfect "happy" ending that didn't even feel bittersweet.

I romanced Tali, and boy, did they go all out on it.   Unlike many previous Bioware games, including Mass Effect 2, Romance wasn't just "talk to someone a lot, then flirt and get it on before the big finale" sort of deal.   You felt like Shepard and his LI (in my case Tali) were really in love with one another, and that in spite of a galaxy on the brink of destruction, they wanted to hope for a better future.  Alas, that is not the case here, as even though the Normandy crash landed on a seemingly well tropical planet, and despite the fact if we ignore Dextro-Amino incompatibilites that may or may not be there, there still remains the issue that Shepard and Tali will never get to build a home on Rannoch, or Earth, or merely spend time with one another.

I also felt like, in order to have the slimmest hope of my Shepard and Tali being together, I had to not only wipe out the Geth (whom I helped give sentience and had been defending all game long, nullyfying Legion's sacrifice) I also had to kill EDI, whom I had grown to enjoy as a character, sexbot claims be damned.   So really, yes I understand Bioware wanted "difficult" decisions, but this seemed a little too grim for a "happy" ending.   

The gameplay is wonderful, the character development and intereactions are great, the setpieces are cinematic and lovely... you feel really caught up in the story, and yet, the looming disappointment of the endings were still there.  

Personally, I think it was an awful way to end a beloved trilogy such as this, and it will be a shame that it will more than likely be many years before Bioware touches Mass Effect again, with Dragon Age 3 and rumors of Baldurs Gate 3 both being on the horizon.   I just wanted to see if my Shepard would ever get back together with his old friend Garrus, or live out the rest of his days peacefully with Tali, whom I swear that they made their romance INCREDIBLE.   Tali fans are in for a major treat with this, but if you're of a weaker will than me you will probably cry at the end due to the incredibly sad note it ends on.  You can tell they really want to be together, and Bioware decided "lolnope".

Personally, I'll be headcannoning that the Normandy sets off a distress beacon that years from there, Shepard arrives and gets all his old crew out of there.  FTL still works, but it'll be limited.  Hopefully that planet isn't too far from Earth. 


good post just finished the ending an hour ago. it really hurts a lot. I guess I shouldin't have gotten so invested in the story but damn it hurts

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im sad

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I romanced Garrus and I feel the exact same way.  I didn't read any spoilers at all.  So I was totally sucker puched by the endings.  The only word I have to describe what i'm feeling right now is devastated.  If I think about it to hard right now I still start tearing up.  I'm just hoping I feel better tomorrow after a good nights sleep. 

I wanted there to be some chance if I did everything right that they could have "happy ending".  I'm sorry but a game should never make you feel this bad.  It's just wrong.  We've been investing in these characters for years now and I don't think anyone ever considered how bad it could be if there was no option to have a "happy ending".  I don't have any hope afterwards of going back and "doing better" on another play through.

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I really like it, ending was bittersweet and I don't know how there could be a ME spin off after it, but at least they showed Joker, EDI, Liara and (I hope) Garrus alive at the end, which made me really happy.

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Arlionis wrote...

I really like it, ending was bittersweet and I don't know how there could be a ME spin off after it, but at least they showed Joker, EDI, Liara and (I hope) Garrus alive at the end, which made me really happy.


I wonder if it's random as to who shows up with Joker.  As I stated, I picked the Destroy ending which blew up EDI, so I had Joker, Tali and Jarik walk out.

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Templar Fox wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

I really like it, ending was bittersweet and I don't know how there could be a ME spin off after it, but at least they showed Joker, EDI, Liara and (I hope) Garrus alive at the end, which made me really happy.


I wonder if it's random as to who shows up with Joker.  As I stated, I picked the Destroy ending which blew up EDI, so I had Joker, Tali and Jarik walk out.


I picked the same ending, and I had Tali and Garrus walk out with Joker. Which made no sense, since they were in my squad and presumably vaporized by the Reaper's energy beam thing which Shepard barely survived. And yet, they somehow got back onto the Normandy, which for some reason was flying away from the battle.

The ending was terrible.

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Templar Fox wrote...

 Now by perfect, I don't mean I did every single aching probe side mission (although I did a fair amount of that) but I did get my galactic readiness level up in multiplayer to 100% and promoted my Infiltrator class as well when I got them to level 20.

My Military Level or whatever it was called was actually over 6000 - more than enough for the absolute threshold of perfect which is 5000.

It took me I'm guessing around 25 hours to beat, as I'm standing right before the final mission and it says 23 hours and 34 minutes - plus, add on 2-4 hours for multiplayer and you have I'm guessing a 29-30 hour gameplay to get this ending.  Bear in mind I imported my Shepard who I built through the first two games, did all the dlc for both and nearly all the side missions.  I was prepared for this.

I also went ahead and spoiled myself on the endings and some details about a week and a half before the 5th (which is when mine unlocked thanks to a VPN I used).  Like many others, I was disappointed and at first pretty angry about the endings, and how they seemed to end on sour notes.  As many of you are well aware, a good portion of fans are not pleased, or at least have mixed responses to the endings.   At first, I didn't like them either.  A galactic dark age for everyone?  Shepard can only live if all the synthetics, including the geth and EDI, die?  What a load of ****, this has to be made up!

But I found out after a few days they were very much NOT made up, so I was glad I got my anger out of the way.  However, as I look back on it, I am incredibly depressed now.   At first, I was prepared for the endings well in advance - I went through the five stages and accepted that this was reality, and there was no way to circumvent it.  Now though, I feel such depression that while I'm not going to cry, it was almost a possibility for a moment.

I understand Bioware wanted emotions, but this wasn't the way to go about it, especailly on the 100% perfect "happy" ending that didn't even feel bittersweet.

I romanced Tali, and boy, did they go all out on it.   Unlike many previous Bioware games, including Mass Effect 2, Romance wasn't just "talk to someone a lot, then flirt and get it on before the big finale" sort of deal.   You felt like Shepard and his LI (in my case Tali) were really in love with one another, and that in spite of a galaxy on the brink of destruction, they wanted to hope for a better future.  Alas, that is not the case here, as even though the Normandy crash landed on a seemingly well tropical planet, and despite the fact if we ignore Dextro-Amino incompatibilites that may or may not be there, there still remains the issue that Shepard and Tali will never get to build a home on Rannoch, or Earth, or merely spend time with one another.

I also felt like, in order to have the slimmest hope of my Shepard and Tali being together, I had to not only wipe out the Geth (whom I helped give sentience and had been defending all game long, nullyfying Legion's sacrifice) I also had to kill EDI, whom I had grown to enjoy as a character, sexbot claims be damned.   So really, yes I understand Bioware wanted "difficult" decisions, but this seemed a little too grim for a "happy" ending.   

The gameplay is wonderful, the character development and intereactions are great, the setpieces are cinematic and lovely... you feel really caught up in the story, and yet, the looming disappointment of the endings were still there.  

Personally, I think it was an awful way to end a beloved trilogy such as this, and it will be a shame that it will more than likely be many years before Bioware touches Mass Effect again, with Dragon Age 3 and rumors of Baldurs Gate 3 both being on the horizon.   I just wanted to see if my Shepard would ever get back together with his old friend Garrus, or live out the rest of his days peacefully with Tali, whom I swear that they made their romance INCREDIBLE.   Tali fans are in for a major treat with this, but if you're of a weaker will than me you will probably cry at the end due to the incredibly sad note it ends on.  You can tell they really want to be together, and Bioware decided "lolnope".

Personally, I'll be headcannoning that the Normandy sets off a distress beacon that years from there, Shepard arrives and gets all his old crew out of there.  FTL still works, but it'll be limited.  Hopefully that planet isn't too far from Earth. 


I agree 100% with this post.  DLC plz. ShUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY OF SHEPARD AND TALI DECORATING THEIR HOUSE. 19.99, ill pay it.

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also I feel like the hunger games are super depressing but they're popular, idk i guess that's just how life works.

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GuyWithFace wrote...

Templar Fox wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

I really like it, ending was bittersweet and I don't know how there could be a ME spin off after it, but at least they showed Joker, EDI, Liara and (I hope) Garrus alive at the end, which made me really happy.


I wonder if it's random as to who shows up with Joker.  As I stated, I picked the Destroy ending which blew up EDI, so I had Joker, Tali and Jarik walk out.


I picked the same ending, and I had Tali and Garrus walk out with Joker. Which made no sense, since they were in my squad and presumably vaporized by the Reaper's energy beam thing which Shepard barely survived. And yet, they somehow got back onto the Normandy, which for some reason was flying away from the battle.

The ending was terrible.


I didn't mention this in my post, as I went off on a Tali rant, but there were a lot of plotholes and points that made me go "wait, what?"   It kind of had evidence of poor writing, in my opinion... all aside from the obvious grievances with how they handled your LI.

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Just finished it myself, largely agree.

Although, honestly, I could live with Shep making the ultimate sacrifice or whatever, but the shenanigans with the Normandy is just ridiculous and feels really forced. On top of that, we don't get an epilogue (that... thing, explains nothing). That's the thing that genuinely annoys me the most. It would have been nice to have even some idea of the state of the galaxy after the story, but noooooo, we get that "The Shepard" thing

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At least you got to spend time with your LI, my favorite Jack was side lined to a min-dungeon, a bar conversation and then a 8 second video conversations at the end.

This is absolutely ridiculous, the ending makes no sense. It's horrible.

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im alright with the endings i guess but they still make me sad, and i think the romance in this game is the best of the 3. i was kinda sad seeing ash dead in the final assault.

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Apart from the story loophope, another thing makes me sad is that the end leave almost no room for sequel, The end, just like the name of that sad piano melody, an end once and for all, me3 was supposed to end shep's story not the entire universe. however how can you make a sequel when 2 endings destroy mass relays

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I hope Bioware at least responds to the fan backlash, acknowledges our displeasure and dissatisfaction with these endings.

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Templar Fox wrote...

I hope Bioware at least responds to the fan backlash, acknowledges our displeasure and dissatisfaction with these endings.


Mark my words; they won't. I guarantee they won't.

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Templar Fox wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

I really like it, ending was bittersweet and I don't know how there could be a ME spin off after it, but at least they showed Joker, EDI, Liara and (I hope) Garrus alive at the end, which made me really happy.


I wonder if it's random as to who shows up with Joker.  As I stated, I picked the Destroy ending which blew up EDI, so I had Joker, Tali and Jarik walk out.


What about mine, I picked the destory ending with Garrus and James in my squad guess who shows up with Joker? EDI and Garrus........ maybe a glitch. :blink:

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shnellegaming wrote...

I romanced Garrus and I feel the exact same way.  I didn't read any spoilers at all.  So I was totally sucker puched by the endings.  The only word I have to describe what i'm feeling right now is devastated.  If I think about it to hard right now I still start tearing up.  I'm just hoping I feel better tomorrow after a good nights sleep. 

I wanted there to be some chance if I did everything right that they could have "happy ending".  I'm sorry but a game should never make you feel this bad.  It's just wrong.  We've been investing in these characters for years now and I don't think anyone ever considered how bad it could be if there was no option to have a "happy ending".  I don't have any hope afterwards of going back and "doing better" on another play through.


I'm right there with you. I didn't spoil a single thing for myself, despite being warned by a couple of others that it was "probably a good idea," and had the wind knocked right out of me. I'm still reeling. I don't think I've ever cried as much over a fictional medium as I have with this game. Hell, I rarely if ever cry over real life things...and I've managed to burst into treats a few times since just thinking about the bleakness of it all :|. 

also hi5s for romancing Garrus. They did such a beautiful job with Femsheppy and Garrus's relationship, which makes this already incredibly hurtful turn of events sting all too keenly. 

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I think it was well worth the 80$ i paid for it. Although the Ending i got (Destroyed synthetics, Shep died, also a Tali lover.) was really sad, i enjoyed the game as a whole, and luckly, i can block that ending out of my mind....forever....

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i doubt there will be a me4
as for endings they might give fans what they want with a large dlc sort of a add on like dragon age origns awaking *at least i hope*
im just more annoyed at the lack of closure to what happen to my teammates 

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i guess bioware is gonna say "its not the destination but the journey" ...i was really disapointed the were no epilogue,and besides they kinda killed the mass effect series... how they gonna make a good game about any of those endings...

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I'd like to think people learned from Fallout 3's ending, which apparently they did. Put in a bad ending and people will pay for a good one...
Enjoyed every minute of the game up until my squad told joker to beam them up and run away from the reapers.
Well worth the money imo but I don't know if I can play it over and over like me 1&2. Lack of closure is killing me. I need a beer.

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Mass Effect 3 was like winning the lottery, buying a swimming pool full of kittens and chocolate pudding, finally getting that hot date you wanted.... but then as soon as she shows up, she throws a brick in your face and walks away.