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[SaltyWaffles-PD]

As a preface, despite some flaws, I was LOVING ME3 right up until the endings.

There are three endings, and regardless of which you choose, all of your past decisions and actions are largely irrelevant. The only choice in the entire trilogy that actually means much of anything is the one at the end.

And then the three endings are so short, vague, and disatsifying that I just can't bring myself to even play the multiplayer anymore. The IP that I loved so damn much...I just can't bring myself to care about it anymore. Nothing matters. Each of the three endings results in some extremely short, vague cutscene that leaves so many huge questions unanswered, and only one of the endings retains any meaning for any of your other decisions or actions. It's especially bad, because the BIG, CORE consequences of the ONE decision that matters in the entire trilogy are pretty much unanswered, vague metaphorical shrugs that go little farther than "believe whatever you want".

In short, all of the endings basically erase the IP, as well as every other decision the player made and action he/she took.

And don't even get me started on the whole War Assets mechanic--apparently (as far as I understand), none of it matters; the only difference that might exist is how many of the three endings you can choose in the end.

Then there are the problems with the few answers/specifics the endings DO provide: why does the Citadel blow up in the Merge ending, and why is Earth's entire surface completely melted over in the Destroy ending? Where the heck is the Citadel (and the Reapers) going in the Control ending? Is EVERY planet scorched over like Earth in the destroy ending (how could they not, if that same "wave" is applied to the entire galaxy via the entire Mass Relay Network, as we can see in the ending?)? 

It's just so...beyond dissapointing. It wasn't really cliche or predictable, but it was bad. It erased the IP and the world each player shaped with each decision.

Many of the other things, like the Normandy crash landing (and how that even made any sense whatsoever), defy OTHER things we clearly see in the other part of the ending. If you pick the Destroy ending, everyone and everything in the Sol system is destroyed/killed, but somehow one of the squadmates you took with you to the Beam walks right out of the Normandy, just fine.

So, to sum it up, the endings did a perfect job of rending the IP and every character, decision, relationship, (etcetera), meaningless.

I'm just so sad.


EDIT: I never myself chose the Destroy ending, I just watched several videos of it (and they all ended the same way). Same with the Merge ending.

Modifié par SaltyWaffles-PD, 08 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Kills any replayability as well. 5 ****ING YEARS, Bioware, that's how long most of us have stuck around for this finale.

[Militarized]

I agree completely, except when I took the red ending it looked like it was just wiping out the synthetics. The humans cheer when the Reapers fall and die, they don't get fried.

[Jjacobclark]

yeah it really makes playing me 1, 2, or 3 pointless

Modifié par Jjacobclark, 08 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[bpzrn]

"So, to sum it up, the endings did a perfect job of rending the IP and every character, decision, relationship, (etcetera), meaningless. "


This is how I feel, S#$@%s

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

...I never chose the Destroy ending. I just watched several videos of it, all of them ended the same way.

[SNascimento]

Is there no ending where the reapers win? ie you don't even able to make the three decision?

[SNascimento]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

Is there no ending where the reapers win? ie you don't even able to make the three decision?

Hmmm... yeah. Just start the game and kill yourself on the first enemy you can find. 

CRITICAL MISSION FAILLURE 

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Never head that one before. 

[Krazy Man 61]

I think that Bioware should make a DLC that allows some king of twist were you have to make a huge decision that can potentialy allow you to survive instaed of being forced into death and unanswered questions. Plus they could add more to the story like answer unanswered questions, a new enemy, etc.

[Troutz]

Honestly, I'm fine with my Shepard dying. I'm fine with squadmates dying. I'm fine with a dark ending. Tragedies are good, and as dark and gritty as ME3 is, it makes sense.

The problem is there is absolutely zero closure. We don't find out what happens to the characters we've grown to love. We just see a couple out-of-context cutscenes, one that suggests the Normandy crash-landed on an uncharted world (which means they're all probably going to die slowly of starvation since the mass relays were destroyed and no one can reach them).

We were promised no loose ends. Everything would be resolved. Unfortunately that isn't the case with ME3.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Troutz wrote...

Honestly, I'm fine with my Shepard dying. I'm fine with squadmates dying. I'm fine with a dark ending. Tragedies are good, and as dark and gritty as ME3 is, it makes sense.

The problem is there is absolutely zero closure. We don't find out what happens to the characters we've grown to love. We just see a couple out-of-context cutscenes, one that suggests the Normandy crash-landed on an uncharted world (which means they're all probably going to die slowly of starvation since the mass relays were destroyed and no one can reach them).

We were promised no loose ends. Everything would be resolved. Unfortunately that isn't the case with ME3.

Yeah, it was basically a really dark, IP-erasing ending with zero closure, answers, or details.

[Warp92]

I personally feel like I waisted my time ... The ending has no closure at all :L

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

I like the fact that everybody call to mass starvation when they can just take the bunch of weapon in the Normandy and go kill some random animal 

...until you realize that they're dextro-amino-acid based, and are thus inedible. Or that eating said animal actually causes serious diseases and carries horrible alien parasites, which no one has any possible treatment for.

Or that they get the amazing joy of a stone-age lifestyle with a dozen people on a completely alien planet. I'm sure Joker would love that. Especially the first (and last) time he breaks his legs when he trips over a root.

[Krazy Man 61]

One of the problems is Bioware contradictid itself, the Mass Effect Series was about the choices that you make throughout the game affects the ending if you try hard you can get a good ending if you dont try you get a bad ending and in Mass Effect 3 it doesnt matter what choices you make you end up getting the same three endings.

[Wazooty]

 

SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...
...until you realize that they're dextro-amino-acid based, and are thus inedible. Or that eating said animal actually causes serious diseases and carries horrible alien parasites, which no one has any possible treatment for.

Or that they get the amazing joy of a stone-age lifestyle with a dozen people on a completely alien planet. I'm sure Joker would love that. Especially the first (and last) time he breaks his legs when he trips over a root.

 

Ugh, and THAT is why the endings are all terribly depressing.  Not even mentioning shepard dying.  

All I can think about was how much I wanted shep to be happy with his LI...I am so disappointed that couldn't happen, all I can think about is how heatbroken my LI is.

Modifié par Wazooty, 08 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[Militarized]

Wazooty wrote...

 

SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...
...until you realize that they're dextro-amino-acid based, and are thus inedible. Or that eating said animal actually causes serious diseases and carries horrible alien parasites, which no one has any possible treatment for.

Or that they get the amazing joy of a stone-age lifestyle with a dozen people on a completely alien planet. I'm sure Joker would love that. Especially the first (and last) time he breaks his legs when he trips over a root.

 

Ugh, and THAT is why the endings are all terribly depressing.  Not even mentioning shepard dying.  

All I can think about was how much I wanted shep to be happy with his LI...I am so disappointed that couldn't happen, all I can think about is how heatbroken my LI is.

Hey! What about how heart broken I am for being f*cked in the ass by this bs ending? 

[Krazy Man 61]

If you guys disagree with the current ending click the link to this fourm to try and bring the issue to Bioware's attention

[Abisco]

I loved the games, all 3 of them... but the endings are leaving me with mixed feelings. I really am trying to like it, but its difficult. I noticed on ign that there are 16 different endings, but all end quite similarly. I really wish they at least SHOWED my LI dying rather then just not showing up. I was waiting to find ashleys body and cry over it... have shepard break down. Its not about the fact that they didnt end up together, because quite frankly I expected shepard to die. What bothers me is that they should have put more attention to the characters deaths. Also the citadel thing was weird, I wish I had a choice to ask him questions! Oh so you created the reapers? thats nice!

[Jjacobclark]

Abisco wrote...

I loved the games, all 3 of them... but the endings are leaving me with mixed feelings. I really am trying to like it, but its difficult. I noticed on ign that there are 16 different endings, but all end quite similarly. I really wish they at least SHOWED my LI dying rather then just not showing up. I was waiting to find ashleys body and cry over it... have shepard break down. Its not about the fact that they didnt end up together, because quite frankly I expected shepard to die. What bothers me is that they should have put more attention to the characters deaths. Also the citadel thing was weird, I wish I had a choice to ask him questions! Oh so you created the reapers? thats nice!

seriously, I couldin't believe the lack of dialogue at that scene

[Troutz]

Abisco wrote...

Also the citadel thing was weird, I wish I had a choice to ask him questions! Oh so you created the reapers? thats nice!

That whole Catalyst thing felt hastily-written. Like they wrote the first 95% of the game with masterful pacing and emotion, then they were like "oh crap guys, deadline is in five days and we don't have an ending!" So for the first two games, we're told we can't even fathom the Reapers' motives. REALLY? Because after that crackpot explanation by the Catalyst, I was able to fathom it just fine!

Modifié par Troutz, 08 mars 2012 - 04:38 .

[Krazy Man 61]

So is there actually an ending where Shepard can live?