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[Voods07]

 So, just finished my first playthrough, and am quite sour about one thing in particular.....how Bioware tricked me in that RENEGADE quick-actions (the left mouse/right mouse thing) are the way to get the "best" ending with shepeard and anderson living.

I played as Paragon the who trilogy, and GENERALLY (for ME2 and 3) Renegade options were....uh.....RENEGADE. Would sommone enlighten me how the EFF killing TIM(before he shoots Anderson) is a renegade option!?!

From variouse threads in this section, I understand there is an ending where anderson can sacrifice himself in the "red ending" and has you(shepard) alive breating under the rubble. I coulnd't get to this ending because Bioware tricked me into shooting the illusive man AFTER he shot Anderson. I had to make a quick trigger decision when I realized "oh ****...there are no blue paragon actions here!!!". I would have otherwise been shot by TIM if I hadn't?

Bioware, why the trickery. This is biggest problem I have over my playthrough and it really REALLY disconnected me from the whole thing. 

[Wazooty]

I think they were trying to say "Do what's right, ignore what color it is."

[Zhriver]

This is what wen't down for me. I was like 95% paragon 5% Renegade.

TIM takes control of me and forces me to shoot Anderson.
TIM finally comes to his senses and kills himself.
Anderson dies while talking to shep.

I took the red blastwave option:
Reapers where killed, earth survived.
Sheppard is seen alive at the end.

Modifié par Zhriver, 08 mars 2012 - 07:21 .

[HaiknEdge]

My problem with "renegade" vs "paragon" is that the names don't actually fit. Most of the renegade choices are choices I think soldiers in theaters of combat would pick, while the paragon choices are the ones that would put soldiers and their comrades in danger, and would thus not be picked.

That aside, it is what it is.

[Voods07]

Zhriver wrote...

Sheppard is seen alive at the end.

Where did you see this? Was it in the cinimeatic with the old man(woman?) talking to the boy with the trees and snow? I know the boy said "Shepard" at one point for me, but I couldnt tell if it was to the old person or talking about shepard.

Modifié par Voods07, 08 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[Wazooty]

Voods07 wrote...

Zhriver wrote...

Sheppard is seen alive at the end.

Where did you see this? Was it in the cinimeatic with the old man(woman?) talking to the boy with the trees and snow? I know the boy said "Shepard" at one point for me, but I couldnt tell if it was to the old person or talking about shepard.

I would like to know too, plenty of people have said this but no videos on youtube (or even my own playthrough) support this...

[Jaron Oberyn]

Shepard definitely isn't the old person. That scene plays regardless of which ending as well.

-Polite

[Jaron Oberyn]

The ending where you're alive shows Shepard in ruins, London I believe, and it shows him/her breathe while laying down by rubble.

-Polite

[Zhriver]

If you download a bink video player you can go through the videos in the installation folder.

[Voods07]

Great, so if it wasn't Shepard in the cinematic at the end, then who the eff was it! Also, who was the kid!? Is it even answerable?

[Jaron Oberyn]

We don't know. At first it was assumed they're descendant of a colony started by the Normandy survivors, but in some endings nobody coms out of the Normandy, which means they're dead right? So if they're dead, then how can it be them? Also, look at the planets in the atmosphere on both planets. The one they land on has a huge planet and then a small planet in front of it. The one in the after credit scene seems to have a huge planet and a smaller one in the distance.


-Polite

[Supersomething]

Popular speculation is that its Joker talking with the kid at the end. Heck it could be Admiral Hackett.

[thepaladin1]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

The ending where you're alive shows Shepard in ruins, London I believe, and it shows him/her breathe while laying down by rubble.

-Polite

which I don't get.... I took my LI with me to fight on the ground don't know where she went but she magically teleported back to normady after I went up there and blew them up and then I'm magically teleported back down to london on top of some rubble the eff?

[Abirn]

HaiknEdge wrote...

My problem with "renegade" vs "paragon" is that the names don't actually fit. Most of the renegade choices are choices I think soldiers in theaters of combat would pick, while the paragon choices are the ones that would put soldiers and their comrades in danger, and would thus not be picked.

That aside, it is what it is.

True, but I still think its better than the last 2 games where renegade was a gamble between being cool renegade type character and being a complete dick.  I tried to do a full renegade playthrough of Mass effect 2 and decided to stop it shortly into it because shepard was just acting like a total dick.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Yeah I don't get how the squad who was on earth just magically appears on the Normandy. It is confusing... And they said they would answer all questions lol.


-Polite

[naughty99]

HaiknEdge wrote...

My problem with "renegade" vs "paragon" is that the names don't actually fit. Most of the renegade choices are choices I think soldiers in theaters of combat would pick, while the paragon choices are the ones that would put soldiers and their comrades in danger, and would thus not be picked.

That aside, it is what it is.

I've only started playing ME3, but already the Renegade/Paragon system seems orders of magnitude better than ME2's Renegade/Paragon system.

With ME2, you had to exclusively pick every single Renegade option in order to unlock the most challenging Renegade interrupts. (or exclusively pick every Paragon option for the Paragon interrupts), regardless of what sort of character we wanted to play, even in several cases when the options marked "Renegade" or "Paragon" seemed poorly labeled.

In ME3 it seems that we are finally free to select whichever dialogue options we feel our character would choose, which greatly facilitates playing the role of the particular Shepard we want to play.

That was my major gripe with ME2, that we were penalized for playing any character that does not choose the Paragon options every single time or the Renegade options every single time.

Modifié par naughty99, 08 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[Voods07]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Yeah I don't get how the squad who was on earth just magically appears on the Normandy. It is confusing... And they said they would answer all questions lol.


-Polite

Not to mention they answered ZERO questions about the Lazarus project other than "his helmet kept his brain in tact"....from PLANETARY ENTRY....ya right.

Bioware, what did you do to Mass Effect.....

[Jake Boone]

Supersomething wrote...

Popular speculation is that its Joker talking with the kid at the end. Heck it could be Admiral Hackett.

According to the credis, that is Stargazer. According to the credits, his voice actor was Buzz Alrdin. I thought he did a good job.