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Dragoni89 wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

Guys, they're hearing you. It's affecting them. And it sounds like they had stuff planned beforehand. So it may be clarified later.

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever." -Mike Gamble


If possible, I like to  be one of the first to call BS

His quotes on ME3

 "Your story is customised around your Shepard and who you are - we stay faithful to that concept"

All our choices were not even implemented in that ending.

"ME3 is a completely different setting; literally the entire galaxy is at war. All these races are now face to face with a war story that they have to overcome."

War assets contributed nothing to the story of the game. War assets was just a stupid number.

"We want the outcomes to be satisfying to the player, and that doesn’t
necessarily mean they’re all going to be happy or positive, but they
have to be satisfying and they have to understand that the choices that
they’ve been making in this game and in previous have an impact, and
that they’re an architect in what happens."

80% of BSN hate the ending. None of our choices mattered at all.


BSN hates everything. But they are hearing you.

#252
Dragoni89

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Cause obviously we hated ME1, ME2 and DAO. If 300- 500 ppl in the forums are not liking the ending then something has gone terriblely wrong. And before you even say it is the same people. Look at the two polls. That is enough of a sample size.

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I work at a gamestop when not in school. There have been over 30 copies of the game "not sold/returned/traded in" in 2 days. Including 2 CE's. This is NOT normal. (please don't ask me for specifics, as I'm trying to remain professional)

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From what I'm hearing the endings aren't being changed. Is this fact? Because I really don't want to keep playing only to want to start punching my wall in anger. Id rather get towards the end and right before the game nose dives turn off my TV and make up my own ending in which Shep tells the kid to shove it, puts on some sunglasses and ride a sperm whale back to the normandy all while to the tune of Kenny Loggins Highway to the Danger Zone.

Dear god I just came up with a better ending then bioware.

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DanteTrixter wrote...

From what I'm hearing the endings aren't being changed. Is this fact? Because I really don't want to keep playing only to want to start punching my wall in anger. Id rather get towards the end and right before the game nose dives turn off my TV and make up my own ending in which Shep tells the kid to shove it, puts on some sunglasses and ride a sperm whale back to the normandy all while to the tune of Kenny Loggins Highway to the Danger Zone.

Dear god I just came up with a better ending then bioware.


Well the galaxy does drastically change in the three endings (with several variables)

But the only thing that doesn't change will be that Shepard and his or her crew will pay the ultimate price. =]

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SE JN wrote...

I work at a gamestop when not in school. There have been over 30 copies of the game "not sold/returned/traded in" in 2 days. Including 2 CE's. This is NOT normal. (please don't ask me for specifics, as I'm trying to remain professional)


Interesting.

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KitePolaris wrote...

Guys, they're hearing you. It's affecting them. And it sounds like they had stuff planned beforehand. So it may be clarified later.

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever." -Mike Gamble


Y'now what I say to this? Good.
Don't want it to be so hard a day? Come out and say your'e gonna fix it.

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After DA2, and SWTOR and now the end of ME3, they're gonna have to back up this 'hold on to my copy of ME3 forever' tweet with some hard and awesome...something.

My money says 'new and exciting multiplayer DLC!'

Sad, considering I've been a huge Bioware fan ever since BG. But since EA came along, ugh. Just ugh. What happened?

And sure it'll be great if Bioware 'fixes' the endings (at least expands them, they don't necessarily need to be rainbows and sunshine and unicorns), but if EA busts in and tells me that'll be $15, that's $15 they aren't gonna see.

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KitePolaris wrote...

Guys, they're hearing you. It's affecting them. And it sounds like they had stuff planned beforehand. So it may be clarified later.

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever." -Mike Gamble


OMG, they actually had the nerve to say that?  After basically rendering the first two games AND the majority of Shepard's exploits in ME3 worthless?  WHO would go through anymore of this?

I don't think Bioware understands that most of us having nothing left to invest in this franchise.  Whatever interest we had in ME has been burned up.  I tried to start a second playthrough, like so many others I had all of these game saves fromME1& ME2.   But I just can't bring myself to play them.  

Hold on to our ME3 copies forever?  Don't they understand how demoralized we are?

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Me, Bioware needs to know this kind of thing is not OK to do.

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Knightsaber2010 wrote...
Sad, considering I've been a huge Bioware fan ever since BG. But since EA came along, ugh. Just ugh. What happened?


couldn't agree more

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Man, you guys need to step back and really look at what the ending was.

First of all it's not about marrying your ****ing love interest and having children (which most of you want, this is Mass Effect, not "Pursue marriage in space").

Secondly, this was the story of Shepard and his fight against the Reapers. You guys thought there would be a happy bunny flopping ending? No.

Third, the most important thing is that Shepard destroyed the Reapers, a self-sacrifice, so that everyone now can live - and so that all future civilizations can flourish. Don't you see? The living people of now and the living ones of the future will always have life, will always have love, and will never see terror come down from the skies.

This story was about saving everything, a sacrifice of pinnacle righteousness, so that characters you love will endure and so that the friendships and relationships you did will happen again with future people of the galaxy.

You all came in expecting self demands that were impossible to meet. Grow up, and take a step back. 

Modifié par Thalorin1919, 09 mars 2012 - 06:28 .


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i will be buying another one till i start hating bioware i think the endings was good, they gave you the 3 endings and thats it there was no shep will survive they never hinted on that at all in the endings but if i am right the "prefect ending will need alot more paragon then anyhting to get what you need to pull it

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endings to DA2 and ME3 have left me sour on BioWare. i'm not preordering games anymore, that's for sure.

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Man, you guys need to step back and really look at what the ending was.

First of all it's not about marrying your ****ing love interest and having children (which most of you want, this is Mass Effect, not "Pursue marriage in space").

Secondly, this was the story of Shepard and his fight against the Reapers. You guys thought there would be a happy bunny flopping ending? No.

Third, the most important thing is that Shepard destroyed the Reapers, a self-sacrifice, so that everyone now can live - and so that all future civilizations can flourish. Don't you see? The living people of now and the living ones of the future will always have life, will always have love, and will never see terror come down from the skies.

This story was about saving everything, a sacrifice of pinnacle righteousness, so that characters you love will endure and so that the friendships and relationships you did will happen again with future people of the galaxy.

You all came in expecting self demands that were impossible to meet. Grow up, and take a step back. 


I think you havn't even understood the ending
"Third, the most important thing is that Shepard destroyed the Reapers, a
self-sacrifice, so that everyone now can live - and so that all future
civilizations can flourish. Don't you see? The living people of now and
the living ones of the future will always have life, will always have
love, and will never see terror come down from the skies."

Where in the ending is this even implied.

All 3 endings display in someway or form reapers won. You ask why they have won? Humanity is finished. Sherpard destroyed the mass effect relays (cause super novas or just getting destoryed is already bad enough.) Which puts all remaining aliens from the in the sol system. Leads to the conclution of starvation due to lack of resourcess. Kind of feel bad about curing the genophage.

Oh what else the crew crash lands on a random planet with 4 ppl. Tell the people on IIos they could have rebuild there entire prothien population with 4 ppl lmao.

What is implied by the kid is that at one way or another advanced civilization will kill themselves because of machines with AI.

Fact is all 3 ending shepard condems humanity to their destruction.

Modifié par Dragoni89, 09 mars 2012 - 06:48 .


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 I think most people are focusing on the wrong things.  The biggest issue isn't that there's not a happy ending for your Shepard.  The biggest issue is that Bioware set out to make a trilogy, where your choices dramatically impacted your experiences throughout.  There goal was to have Mass Effect 3 play differently depending on the individual playing it.  They were so successful, that many of us played 1 and 2 many times over.  Leading up to the game, I replayed two.  I seriously considered replaying one, then replaying two again.  Reviews led me to believe Bioware had delivered on their promise. I wanted to see all the iterations.

Now, me and those like me, will likely not play it again.  I certainly won't be buying DLC.  The greatest problem with this ending is that Bioware took all of our choices and made them meaningless.  The total isn't greater than the sum of its parts.  On the contrary it's less than each individual part.  Bioware decided to take all of our choices and make them irrelevant in the end game.  All three games boiled down to three choices, two of which were virtually the same.

While everything leading up to the final 15 min. of the last game was a great experience, the way the final 15 min was handled should leave any rational person asking "what the f*** was Bioware thinking."  It's their right to end their own IP how they want, but they could have ended it in a similar way without making players feel cheated.  I invested something like 300 hours into these three games.  And for what?

So back to the original topic: I will still be purchasing Bioware games.  And if people on this forum were honest with themselves, they'd admit they will be too.  The way Bioware ended this game was monumentally stupid, but the fact remains that no one even comes close to story driven RPG's of Bioware's caliber.  I probably won't be playing any future games of theirs through more than once though.  They've proven that motivation for doing so was all a lie, and I can't ever trust them again in that regard.

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There are rumors they are listening, but who knows...

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I will not be purchasing another BioWare either, which is really sad since I was a huge fan. I have supported them and defended them for all of these years, but enough is enough.

Modifié par Levvi, 09 mars 2012 - 07:57 .


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I will still buy Bioware games.  I think they are still a great company.  At the same time, the endings for ME3 left such a bad taste in my mouth that I can say with cetainty that I will not be buying any of the future DLC for ME3.  I bought all the DLC for the previous games.  So Bio is going to loose a lot of cash from me.

I will also not be replaying the game.  Why bother when nothing good can come from it at the end?   Combined I Played ME1 and 2 through to the end at least 10 times, but with no satisfying payoff there is no use going through it all again.

Also, I was under the impression that this was NOT going to be the last ME game, just the end of Sheps' story.  How can you continue making games in the ME universe if the ME relays are destroyed no matter what, meaning all the races of the galaxy are stuck on whatever planet they are on now?

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I probably won't write off Bioware entirely but I will never have blind loyalty to any of their games again.

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I think im gonna take an unopenned copy of ME3 CE and burn it... record me burning it and youtubing it. I just dont care anymore.

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It's the day after for me and I can't even look at my Xbox. Doubtful that I'm going to replay ME 3 and most definitely no DLC money from me. Preordering Bioware games is over from this player after DA2 and this.

I'm off to Skyrim.

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Man, you guys need to step back and really look at what the ending was.

First of all it's not about marrying your ****ing love interest and having children (which most of you want, this is Mass Effect, not "Pursue marriage in space").

Secondly, this was the story of Shepard and his fight against the Reapers. You guys thought there would be a happy bunny flopping ending? No.

Third, the most important thing is that Shepard destroyed the Reapers, a self-sacrifice, so that everyone now can live - and so that all future civilizations can flourish. Don't you see? The living people of now and the living ones of the future will always have life, will always have love, and will never see terror come down from the skies.

This story was about saving everything, a sacrifice of pinnacle righteousness, so that characters you love will endure and so that the friendships and relationships you did will happen again with future people of the galaxy.

You all came in expecting self demands that were impossible to meet. Grow up, and take a step back. 


Do you even bother to read most of the feedback or are you too busy holding your nose up in the air thinking you are more mature and a deeper thinker? I'm leaning towards "no" because you generalized that everyone wants a disney ending, when in fact, what we would like is some actual ****ing variety. Of course you can keep making baseless accusations, that's fine, it's a free country - or not, depends on where you live. Plus the site is privately owned and operated.

Honest to god you sound like more of a whiny **** then the people you're berating.

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People defending Bioware don't understand why we're upset. Again, none of us wanted a "happy Disney like" ending. We're fine with "dark" endings. What we're not fine with is endings that:

- make no sense

- makes ME1-3 completely worthless

- leaves pretty much every single question unanswered

You CAN make a good, dark ending, that brings closure, even if billions die, even if Shepard dies. What we got is crappy writing.