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Kileyan

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I'm not sure, but right now, I am a little mad and think I won't be buying anymore Bioware games:) Its easy to say that, but it isn't just one game. DA2 was released with tons of lies about it being a unique game where your decisions mattered and shaped Hawkes world. Except that nothing changed, and you couldn't stop anything from happening, even though you really could have if Bioware didn't take control away and make everything a cutscene that played the game for you.

The endings were pointlessly depressing and vindictive, in the way they were handled. It is like some cheap horror movie where the 3 surviving kids escape the creepy masked killer, everyone cheers because the couple of likeable kids finally made it out after lots of pain and fear. Then during the ending credits the sheriff who saves them puts on the killers mask and kills everyone anyway.

I'm sure I will get over these endings, but I cannot imagine wanting to play the game again, let alone buy DLC. Why would I want to add more mini adventures when I know what is in store for whatever new friends I meet along the way.

Perhaps that will be the theme of all the ME3 dlc? Each one will have new insights on the many horrible ways all his friends died, we'll get to see them dismembered, killed by friendly fire, die alone starving, suffocating in vacuum, that could be at least a dozen 800 point DLCs.

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Soundsystem wrote...

I will never buy another Bioware game straight off the self based solely on it being Bioware. It used to be safe to do that, but no more.

That's sort of where I am. I'm willing to buy from them again but it'll be a more cautious purchase.

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I'm with defenestrated and Soundsystem. I won't preorder and I won't buy at all until I know how everything goes.

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canceled my swtor account due to the ending

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At 738 nos so far.

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I was going to purchase SWTOR after many hours on ME3. Its not going to happen.

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Rheinlandman wrote...

I am going to completely honest and candid with you all. Tuesday evening my Grandmother had to be rushed to the hospital. I dove right in to ME3 purely for the escapism, I was having my midterms, and I didn't need the stress of my only living grandparent in the hospital weighing on me. I studied and played ME3.

While Mass Effect was a dark universe it was also a hopeful one, where heroes could actively make a difference. When for squadmates died, I may have teared up but it didn't bother me. Their deaths were noble and heroic, deserving of their characters.

Then I got to the end and I bawled my eyes out.

I didn't weep because it was meaningful (they weren't). Or that Shepards death was noble. I wept because I was overwhelmed by hopelessness. No matter Shepard's path the choices he faced were just so hopeless with no possibility of a sliver of happiness for my avatar in this world.

I was struck by the fact that no matter what he did, how much he had endured, all of Shepards fates were terrible. Either dead or separated from his friends and loved ones.

I wept because I was overwhelmed by the fact that if a g*d d**n video game character can't hope for a brighter future then what is the farking point?

There was nothing redeeming about this games ending. You sacrifice your life (control) or commit multiple acts of genocide (destroy)(Reaper, Geth, and probably Quarians). Synthesis is equally terrible for its numerous philosophical complications.

This game made me hopeless. I doubt I will buy another Bioware game in the future.


Yeah, what had been a major passion of mine and a major mood-lifter during a period of minor depression, I got to the endings and I was so shocked and disillusioned--a complete disbelief that the creators had screwed up SO horribly at the WORST possible time, and had PLANNED IT well ahead of time. That's happened once before, but the creators somewhat made up for it later AND did have some good/hilarious moments in that filth.

But here...it was just so bad. Only 3 endings, all of which are exceedingly grim, give no closure to ANYONE, defy all notions of logic and internal consistency (the entire cutscene with the Normandy--both of them, really--make no sense and defy EVERYTHING the game had established before), and don't even make any sense (how Joker and every organic suddenly has glowing synthetic components and eyes out of nowhere...what.).  The Synthesis ending just makes no sense at all and is completely unexplained (what it even IS in the first place, or why it couldn't have been done before), and the Destroy ending commits mass genocide (Quarians, Geth, EDI) and all of the endings result in so many characters and people dead it's insane (all turians and quarians near Earth dead, everyone on the Citadel dead (and everyone hit by its falling debris, and the falling debris of the ships in orbit too)...

And then Shepard dies no matter what. The "secret" ending that he survives in the Destroy ending  with a high enough EMS defies all notions of logic and sense (Destroy destroys all advanced technology. Shepard is already seriously wounded. He's at the epicenter of a massive exploding Citadel. Said Citadel is falling to Earth's surface from high orbit. Into a wasteland with no tech or medical attention for miles, since the falling Citadel killed anyone in the area. He's deader than dead.).

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lol. I actually bought the PS3 version of ME2 yesterday because I want Wrex back for my next ME3 playthrough. So, if I made any sort of vow like this thread suggests? I already broke it.

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Not another Bioware/EA games, just like what I did with Maxis and Activision. My faith in the video-gaming industry is deteriorating fast.

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Well... for me it's more like a "fool me once..." scenario... we'll see.

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After having played the dissapointment that was DA2 and now being dissapointed by these endings.... Well I am certainly going to think long and hard before buying another Bioware game again.

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DA2 was a disaster, but I figured it was a fluke. Then ME3 comes along. Insanely good game, paired with a ******-poor ending.

Yeah, I'm done, and I'm cancelling my SWTOR sub too.

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I can't trust them enough with my emotional investment in their game if this is how it might turn out. I just canceled my SWTOR subscription. Who knows what they'll do to my character or his poor friends there, the sadists.

If they fix the ending with DLC, I'll forgive them, but at this point I feel like some sort of battered housewife hoping to return to the good old days.

Modifié par Slappy Ya Face, 11 mars 2012 - 01:26 .


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I will not even consider buying into another BioWare game after the way they mistreated the ending to this series. If they set things right, I will have to consider it, but as it stands, no.

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I really dont know as of now.
Depends a bit on how Bioware will react on the ME3 ending thingy as well as what will come next.

But i can say, that Dragon Age 2 was a huge let down for me and i didn't even preorder ME3 because of the Origin / EA EULA part.

I only bought the game because of the amazing trailers/hype in the weeks before release and because i am a huge fan of the series and had to know how it ENDS.

And exactly that last bold part is the problem.... The ending sucks hard.
So Bioware was not able to restore its lost faith after Dragon Age 2 with ME3 (at least not for me).

So the chance that I will buy any new Bioware Game/DLC in the near future will be close to 0.

Modifié par LostHero2k9, 11 mars 2012 - 01:28 .


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If they never fix the ending, add alternates.. then No. Never- EVER.
And that's a BIG deal, I loved bioware. Even DA2.

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Maby after reading up on the truth of what happnes in the game I dont have any more trust in bioware to delever a game I will enjoy from begining to end since this is the second bioware game that has no replay value for me I'm defently not sepnding 80 dollars on one of their games ever again maby a year after reliese when it hits 20 for a new game.

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ravene wrote...

Maby after reading up on the truth of what happnes in the game I dont have any more trust in bioware to delever a game I will enjoy from begining to end since this is the second bioware game that has no replay value for me I'm defently not sepnding 80 dollars on one of their games ever again maby a year after reliese when it hits 20 for a new game.

Or you can make them suffer the worst insult possible. Buy used EA games and brand new activision games.

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ravene

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@ slappy ya face

I dont buy the used games for pc only console in the used department and verry few of them i prefer to suport the company that makes the game, owell diablo 3 is comming out soon it will give me something to do for a while other than read books. and i can play kindoms of amurik(spelling) so i gess the cross premotion worked since i have it on my list to buy if i like it threw the end i will check out more games from that company.

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No more full priced pre-orders for me, after the debacle that was DA2, and now ME3, bargain bin if at all.

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Yeah, I probably won't be purchasing another Bioware game, at least unless they fix the ending and some other stuff for free (no paid DLC for it will satisfy me after that). My trust in them wore away during ME2, I heard bad things about DA2 (didn't play the Dragon Age games at all, so don't have a personal stake there), and while they weren't the sole developers, NWN2 had a ton of issues, and they seem to have given up on patching it, while it still has numerous issues.

The ending left me with the feeling that Bioware has no respect for their customers, otherwise they wouldn't have allowed whoever created those 3 endings to actually put them in the final release.

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You know, even after all this, I was still planning to buy the DLC for this game. But I realized doing that would just send the message that I'm willing to let this lazy writing slide, so... well, see my sig.

All the complaining on forums in the world will not change a thing. But hit them in their wallets, and that's when they start to pay attention.

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here here! I also wont spend a penny... doesnt mean I wont obtain the products anyways ;)

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Xellith wrote...

here here! I also wont spend a penny... doesnt mean I wont obtain the products anyways ;)


I won't force them to change as that's impossible. But simply they should be aware of the fact that my money will be voted against their products unless they introduce ending that is logically satisfactory and coherent to the overall theme of the game. I've done the same with all the games from Maxis and Activision; I see no reason not to.

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Playing them? 10% of maybe.
Paying for them? Hell no, hail to the torrent base site, we all know which one!