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[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[Dragoni89]

Dragoni89 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

i wonder what the reactions are like among the Bioware staff.. different gaming outlets are reporting the feedback as "bioware internet hate" lol

 Internet hate is the most meaningless kind of hate tbh. 

This is not interenet hate. This getting dissapointment in a company you trusted to delieaver a top rpg for the money you use to preorder the game. Whether DA2 or ME3 they were disppointments. ME3 , people waited 5 years for the conclution of ME and these 3 crappy endings that ruins the replay value of the ME3 is what we have ultimately waited for. You can defend bioware all you want. But been playing since Baldur's gate. Loved the Kotor. Wish Kotor III, did not happen. ME ruined completely , I wish I can refund my digital copy. DA2 was a fail. Fans are not pleased at all. We are just quoting the majority of fans. But one of you who likes the ME3 ending obvious better than 100 ppl who hated the ending.

[Eterna]

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Probably the same amount of drama queens who said they would never buy another Bioware game after DA 2. Or ME 2. Or ME 1. Or SWTOR. It's always the same litany after almost every game they've released in the modern era, but somehow these people are back again for the next game. ;p

For the record, I hated ME 2 and thought DA 2 was the biggest copp-out ever in video game history, but I never went on a rant about how I'd never buy a Bioware game again. I can totally understand why some people do go on these rants though. They need an emotional outlet, and it's probably healthier to rant than it is to run over your neighbor's cat.

[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

So it doesn't matter if a lot of people are upset as long as you get your downloadable content and Bioware gets their money?

[Mercenar1ee]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

your in several different threads defending the ending to the vast majority on here that sees it differently.. just saying

[DifferentD17]

No,this feels like betrayal. A slap in the face.

[Eterna]

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

So it doesn't matter if a lot of people are upset as long as you get your downloadable content and Bioware gets their money?

 Pretty much. Are you implying I should care about some disgruntled fans I don't even know? Whenever a sequel is released, people will complain. What you guys are doing is hardly new or revolutionary. 

[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

So it doesn't matter if a lot of people are upset as long as you get your downloadable content and Bioware gets their money?

 Pretty much. Are you implying I should care about some disgruntled fans I don't even know? Whenever a sequel is released, people will complain. What you guys are doing is hardly new or revolutionary. 

No, but you should stop acting like we're doing something wrong when we're voicing our opinion and disappointment. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment.

[Dragoni89]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Probably the same amount of drama queens who said they would never buy another Bioware game after DA 2. Or ME 2. Or ME 1. Or SWTOR. It's always the same litany after almost every game they've released in the modern era, but somehow these people are back again for the next game. ;p

For the record, I hated ME 2 and thought DA 2 was the biggest copp-out ever in video game history, but I never went on a rant about how I'd never buy a Bioware game again. I can totally understand why some people do go on these rants though. They need an emotional outlet, and it's probably healthier to rant than it is to run over your neighbor's cat.

DA and ME had different teams. ME2 was a success while DA2 released a bit was fail. We preordered ME3 with their false promises hoping that it was gonna be better than ME2. But then it didn't happen. So now we are pissed off due to the ending of ME3. And the majority of the population in the forum cannot accpet ME3's pointless ending.

Why the hell are you ranting towards us. You can like the game all you want. But the majority has spoken. Our posts aimed at Bioware, while you are trying target the peoeple who did not like the game, and say they are stupid. Please STFU and mind your own business. Cause you are the one that is rannting.

Modifié par Dragoni89, 08 mars 2012 - 08:49 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I'm most likely to do that. I feel exhausted. After all the slogging and waiting of  years, only to be told to slog some more through MP to affect a better ending (really? what better ending?) is really not my cup of tea. I have not touched MP (I did alot on the demo and managed to get a N7 112) since I finshed the game. I initially thought I will do it for the 2nd and 3rd plus plus playthrough but now, it's not going to happen because there is no difference in the conclusions no matter what I do. What is the point when there is nothing to look forward to in the wrap up?

Shep is finis. And so is Bioware for me.

[Eterna]

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

So it doesn't matter if a lot of people are upset as long as you get your downloadable content and Bioware gets their money?

 Pretty much. Are you implying I should care about some disgruntled fans I don't even know? Whenever a sequel is released, people will complain. What you guys are doing is hardly new or revolutionary. 

No, but you should stop acting like we're doing something wrong when we're voicing our opinion and disappointment. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment.

 I'm not.

[Lycius]

Other than ME 1 and 2, I have never done more than a single playthrough with any singleplayer game. I fully intended to do at minimum 4 playthroughs on ME3 until I finished the first playthrough.

Seriously, pick left, center, or right for the exact same ending but with different coloUrs!

All three of which you die, which makes your romance options completely and utterly pointless.

You get a crappy angle on a crappy picture of Tali's face when there was a PERFECT opportunity on Rannoch for a frontal view of her face when she took her faceplate off. I mean really?? You could have done the whole sun shining on her bare face for the first time on her home planet whilst sharing the moment with the love of her life. Instead you hide it and give us a crap photograph.

All I can say is that I own ALL the DLC for ME 1/2 but I don't see me purchasing any for ME3 since there is no reason to play through again for different color LAZERBEAM PEWPEW.

I know the lead writer left but it honestly feels like the last 15 minutes of the game were developed in about that much time. The Tali thing was just a slap in the face to all of the fans of this series.

Beyond the glaring and just downright insulting ending, there were some basic poor design choices that should have been caught immediately by any tester who isn't blind.

Namely the infuriating rotation speed on planet scanning. Mouse speed set to 100% and I literally move my mouse 10 FEET to rotate a planet via the scanner one time.

Then there are the enormous amount of clipping with the characters in general along with the random weapon switching in cutscenes. I mean if my Shepard has a Mattock assault rifle and custom armor coloring, how come my weapon changes to something I don't even have but my armor is custom in the cutscenes?

All in all I have had a continuous chubby for this game since ME1 released and there were sequels slated. Once the Tali crap happened I was disappointed but I got over it. The last 15 minutes of the game can best be described by George Carlin. Bioware basically lopped my junk off and shoved a red hot poker up my arse.

Thanks guys.

[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mercenar1ee wrote...

anyone know of any threads in which Bioware addressed the fans concerns/feedback?

They haven't because there is nothing to adress. 

They basically screwed over fans who have been loyally playing and spending money on these games since 2007, so I think they do have something to address. 

Nope, they screwed over you. I personally am indifferent to the endings. Not everyone hates them despite what you wan't to believe. 

I never said everyone hates them. I said a lot of people do. And if you're not upset, then why care if Bioware gives the people who are upset a happy ending?

 Because it's development time they could be using to make other DLC. 

So it doesn't matter if a lot of people are upset as long as you get your downloadable content and Bioware gets their money?

 Pretty much. Are you implying I should care about some disgruntled fans I don't even know? Whenever a sequel is released, people will complain. What you guys are doing is hardly new or revolutionary. 

No, but you should stop acting like we're doing something wrong when we're voicing our opinion and disappointment. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment.

 I'm not.

If someone says they don't like the ending, you're basically right there to say Bioware doesn't care or something like that. If you don't remember, the Mass Effect: Deception novel came out with a lot of fans hating it. In the end Bioware and Del Ray decided to fix the novel. So I figure we should at least try to get Bioware to fix the ending for the people who are disappointed.

[Parker Stephenson]

 It's not so much of ME3 Having bad gameplay or anything, I personally liked how they went back to ME1's gun mods and armor selections scale, I didn't like how little weapons and armor variations they had in ME2. But I will have to say I didn't like any of the ending options because you die in all of them (at least thats what I got from the catalyst kid) its just kind of upsetting that I was really excited to see how Shepard would kill the reapers and survive and then BOOM they lay that on me... Even whoever you romance in the game talks about the future (possible kids) and you have to sacrifice yourself.. I believe the ME series was based on the protagonist wins and lives especially with paragon reputation, it just kind of upsets me a little bit though, but it was still an amazing game up to that point.

[Eterna]

Going to stop the quoting crap

@J5550123

No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

Also, deception had serious flaws in terms of lore, the ending to Mass Effect 3 does not, it only has a very, very bitter taste.

[RiouHotaru]

Hahahah, oh wow.

Anyway, of course I will. DA series was fine, ME was fine, TOR was fine. Honestly, Bioware is one of those companies who give out consistent results. Not to mention they've produced some of my all-time favorite games ever.

Hell yeah, I'll get another if it's a game I want. Since when does the name of the developer matter at all if it's a game I want?

[Crashloop_No]

I'll probably buy more games from Bioware, but and there is a big but here. It will not be preorders, it will games that is released and I can read the feedback on forum on. ME3 is a very good shooter game, it just doesn't deliver good enough on the RPG bit. I don't like my character being railroaded in RPG's, i want to develop my character as I picture him. Not be told that my character does this or that, and I can only control small parts of him. DA:O I bought all dlc happily, but after buying signature edition of DA2 and the dissapointment that game was I never thouched the dlc no matter how much praise they got. I'm fairly certain the same willl be with ME3.

[J5550123]

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.

[Dragoni89]

Eterna5 wrote...

Going to stop the quoting crap

@J5550123

No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

Also, deception had serious flaws in terms of lore, the ending to Mass Effect 3 does not, it only has a very, very bitter taste.

Are you trolling us or what? Why you think people made this topic. We payed good money for this game, and to only get slapped in the face by bioware. Ofcourse we aren't gonna sit questly.  Whole point of this is we feel that unless the ending we are not going to buy their games any more. We don't have respect crap when it cost us money to be cheated by bioware. We already taken into account your pointless opinon, but a majority of us can think for our selves and make our own judgements thanks you very much

Modifié par Dragoni89, 08 mars 2012 - 09:09 .

[Eterna]

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.

 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 

[Eterna]

Dragoni89 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Going to stop the quoting crap

@J5550123

No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

Also, deception had serious flaws in terms of lore, the ending to Mass Effect 3 does not, it only has a very, very bitter taste.

Are you trolling us or what? Why you think people made this topic. We payed good money for this game, and to only get slapped in the face by bioware. Ofcourse we aren't gonna sit questly.  Whole point of this is we feel that unless the ending we are not going to buy their games any more. We don't have respect crap when it cost us money to be cheated by bioware. We already taken into account your pointless opinon, but a majority of us can think for our selves and make our own judgements thanks you very much

 It's no different then paying to see a movie. You where not cheated, you payed for a good 24 hours of entertainment. 

 How am I supposed to respect your opinion when you don't respect mine? 

[J5550123]

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.

 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 

Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actual ending that isn't depressing.

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 09:16 .

[NYG1991]

Endings were like a punch to the gut. IMO everything was so well done right up until the final choice. Shep and Anderson sitting there talking then Anderson stops breathing. I didnt mind the fact that people died, it's that the ending is crazy abrupt and I am left wondering WTF actually happened while watching credits roll.

I had 6 characters with different backgrounds ready for import but I don't think I'm gonna go through with any more runs.

P.S. WTF happens besides different color waves?

[Eterna]

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.

 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 

Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actualy ending that isn't depressing.

Well, I think the whole point of this is that there was not supposed to be a happy ending, which makes it doubtful Bioware would relent. But you are entitled to hope.