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Eterna5 wrote...

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I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.


 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 


Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actualy ending that isn't depressing.


Well, I think the whole point of this is that there was not supposed to be a happy ending, which makes it doubtful Bioware would relent. But you are entitled to hope.


I do have hope, and it does seem like there isn't supposed to be a happy ending. But the whole game made you feel the sacrifice, I just wanted Shepard to get a break at the end because, to me, the Mass Effect trilogy was all about hope and the end wasn't hopeful at all, in my opinion.

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I've this secret suspicion they cut it out (if the good ending exists) so we have to pay to get it. Image IPB   That's rather low if true but I would say I'll buy it, if it's really available.

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Eterna5 wrote...

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Going to stop the quoting crap

@J5550123

No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

Also, deception had serious flaws in terms of lore, the ending to Mass Effect 3 does not, it only has a very, very bitter taste.


Are you trolling us or what? Why you think people made this topic. We payed good money for this game, and to only get slapped in the face by bioware. Ofcourse we aren't gonna sit questly.  Whole point of this is we feel that unless the ending we are not going to buy their games any more. We don't have respect crap when it cost us money to be cheated by bioware. We already taken into account your pointless opinon, but a majority of us can think for our selves and make our own judgements thanks you very much


 It's no different then paying to see a movie. You where not cheated, you payed for a good 24 hours of entertainment. 

 How am I supposed to respect your opinion when you don't respect mine? 


Stop trolling? Do I need to repsect yours? Am I targeting your opinon?  Your demanding us to keep quiet accpet Bioware's ending.  Look at the forum title ok. Gaming studios have changed endings due to demand from the players. You don't have read these comments if you like them. Are aiming our comments at you? Are we saying Eterna 5 you made such a bad ending for Mass Effect 3. If your pro mass effect 3 ending good for you. Make your topic that says Mass Effect 3 ending rules topic title or poll vote what ever. or I love bioware that made DAII and ME3

Modifié par Dragoni89, 08 mars 2012 - 09:24 .


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J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.


 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 


Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actualy ending that isn't depressing.


Well, I think the whole point of this is that there was not supposed to be a happy ending, which makes it doubtful Bioware would relent. But you are entitled to hope.


I do have hope, and it does seem like there isn't supposed to be a happy ending. But the whole game made you feel the sacrifice, I just wanted Shepard to get a break at the end because, to me, the Mass Effect trilogy was all about hope and the end wasn't hopeful at all, in my opinion.


 In two of the endings sentient life carries on, there is hope for the future.  

But Tbh, if Bioware was to add a happier ending the only thing I could see myself approving of is a ending where the mass relays don't blow up. I thin that would solve a lot of people's gripes.  

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Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.


 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 


Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actualy ending that isn't depressing.


Well, I think the whole point of this is that there was not supposed to be a happy ending, which makes it doubtful Bioware would relent. But you are entitled to hope.


I do have hope, and it does seem like there isn't supposed to be a happy ending. But the whole game made you feel the sacrifice, I just wanted Shepard to get a break at the end because, to me, the Mass Effect trilogy was all about hope and the end wasn't hopeful at all, in my opinion.


 In two of the endings sentient life carries on, there is hope for the future.  

But Tbh, if Bioware was to add a happier ending the only thing I could see myself approving of is a ending where the mass relays don't blow up. I thin that would solve a lot of people's gripes.  


Most fans got attached to the characters though, and they cared about what happened. Bioware basically killed Shepard off in every ending except for one, and they stranded the crew no matter what. That's not hopeful. It's depressing, dark, and lonely.

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Dragoni89 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Dragoni89 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Going to stop the quoting crap

@J5550123

No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

Also, deception had serious flaws in terms of lore, the ending to Mass Effect 3 does not, it only has a very, very bitter taste.


Are you trolling us or what? Why you think people made this topic. We payed good money for this game, and to only get slapped in the face by bioware. Ofcourse we aren't gonna sit questly.  Whole point of this is we feel that unless the ending we are not going to buy their games any more. We don't have respect crap when it cost us money to be cheated by bioware. We already taken into account your pointless opinon, but a majority of us can think for our selves and make our own judgements thanks you very much


 It's no different then paying to see a movie. You where not cheated, you payed for a good 24 hours of entertainment. 

 How am I supposed to respect your opinion when you don't respect mine? 


Stop trolling? Do I need to repsect yours? Am I targeting your opinon?  Your demanding us to keep quiet accpet Bioware's ending.  Look at the forum title ok. Gaming studios have changed endings due to demand from the players. You don't have read these comments if you like them. Are aiming our comments at you? Are we saying Eterna 5 you made such a bad ending for Mass Effect 3. If your pro mass effect 3 ending good for you. Make your topic that says Mass Effect 3 ending rules topic title or poll vote what ever. or I love bioware that made DAII and ME3


 No, I'm not demanding you to keep quiet, and yes, I am asking you to accept the ending because that's what it is and wishful thinking won't make it go away. I'm not saying you have to like it. 

 And I can't even understand the rest of your post, I'm sorry. 

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I do not mind at all that if Sheard dies in the ending I choose, simply because I have played him as a soldier who is willing to do anything to stop the reaper treath. However if the ending forces him to die without it feeling like he does it for the humanity and that it is the ONLY way to stop the reapers it will be a no go for my part.

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I won't. At least I'll be very reluctant in the future until I know how the game plays out.

Bioware made a lot of lofty promises specifically regarding choices and consequences and my personal influence over the story. I was heavily under the impression that my choices mattered, that the game would respect what I'd done and given the ability to import saves from previous games I thought it would be worth my while to make a few characters to see how each permutation of game play would play out... which I did.

Unfortunately all that time, money, effort is culminating in exactly ONE complete play-through for me and likely not any more.

Strange thing is that I was riding high on the prospect of this game that I was actually planning to buy SWTOR despite my general misgivings about MMOs because I thought I could at least trust BioWare would make the game worth my while. Now I can save a few bucks and buy -- I dunno -- too many chicken nuggets instead.

I don't even know that I'll be playing THIS game again, much more any other BioWare game in the future.

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J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

@Eterna5
I think they owe us at least a response, but if they make downloadable content, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to pay for it so that they do get a profit. The problem is though that apparently Bioware did make a good ending, they just decided to cut it from the game. I don't know that for sure, but other fans seem to be upset by it.


 Would a response from them really make you feel better? 


Depends on what they say. :happy: But from what I've heard of Bioware's reputation, they listen to fans. So maybe there is a chance they would make new endings for us. If they truly did cut a happy ending, then all they have to do is put it online for us to download. I mean...it shouldn't be too much to ask to have some closure and an actualy ending that isn't depressing.


Well, I think the whole point of this is that there was not supposed to be a happy ending, which makes it doubtful Bioware would relent. But you are entitled to hope.


I do have hope, and it does seem like there isn't supposed to be a happy ending. But the whole game made you feel the sacrifice, I just wanted Shepard to get a break at the end because, to me, the Mass Effect trilogy was all about hope and the end wasn't hopeful at all, in my opinion.


 In two of the endings sentient life carries on, there is hope for the future.  

But Tbh, if Bioware was to add a happier ending the only thing I could see myself approving of is a ending where the mass relays don't blow up. I thin that would solve a lot of people's gripes.  


Most fans got attached to the characters though, and they cared about what happened. Bioware basically killed Shepard off in every ending except for one, and they stranded the crew no matter what. That's not hopeful. It's depressing, dark, and lonely.


 Understandable, I even agree that crashing the Normandy was a weak attempt to pull at Heartstrings that ultimately backfired. 
  
 But, you gotta view the larger picture, Shepard and his/her crew are gone yes, but there sacrifice created the hope.

Modifié par Eterna5, 08 mars 2012 - 09:33 .


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Eterna5:No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

And I'm saying we aren't accepting it, and we can think what we like. Cause this title is about wether we are gonna buy another bioware game due to the ending of ME3. I don't know why you keep talking, when our minds are set.

Modifié par Dragoni89, 08 mars 2012 - 09:33 .


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@Eterna5
I get what you're saying. I just wanted Shepard to at least have one ending where he ends up with his love interest. I mean, Mass Effect 4 could be years away, so I have no idea how they resolve all of this. I don't like having a depressing ending to hold me over for years while I wait. Mass Effect 4 may not even be made, you never know. The whole situation is depressing to me.

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Dragoni89 wrote...

Eterna5:No, you're entitled to dislike the ending, go ahead. What you're not entitled to is compensation. You just have to respect that Bioware chose to end their trilogy like this, this is what they wanted. You may not agree with it but there it is.

And I'm saying we aren't accepting it, and we can think what we like. Cause this title is about wether we are gonna buy another bioware game due to the ending of ME3. I don't know why you keep talking, when our minds are set.


 Then you fight your own folly. 

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Good then stop your preaching against those who dislikes bio wares ending and want it changed

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I will still be purchasing Bioware games. I liked the ending for what it is. People need to look beyond just Shepard at what endings provide for the series. It allows Bioware to add more games to the series without being permanentally bogged down with one character. While I was sad that Shepard died, it allows for the game to evolve beyond just this story arc and continue with the darker themes that the game has always had. I think people are looking for a Disney happily ever after and in many ways throughout the three games there has been nothing like that.

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supershrink wrote...

I will still be purchasing Bioware games. I liked the ending for what it is. People need to look beyond just Shepard at what endings provide for the series. It allows Bioware to add more games to the series without being permanentally bogged down with one character. While I was sad that Shepard died, it allows for the game to evolve beyond just this story arc and continue with the darker themes that the game has always had. I think people are looking for a Disney happily ever after and in many ways throughout the three games there has been nothing like that.


This litterally the end of the mass effect universe, no matter which ending. The reason I personally waited 5 years for ME3 is for ending (story). The first 2 games had disney ending and not so disney endings. On the final game they killed the universe and your character. 3 endings. Alot of us just can not accpet this and we should not have to.

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So much hate on a fansite... :|

So where do I go if I want to talk with people who actually liked the game

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MrChowderClam wrote...

So much hate on a fansite... :|

So where do I go if I want to talk with people who actually liked the game

Check the non spoiled forum and the people who don't know the endings. Before endings I was like you. After seeing the ending out rage and feeling cheated.

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MrChowderClam wrote...

So much hate on a fansite... :|

So where do I go if I want to talk with people who actually liked the game


Other online game communities. On other places it seems there are more users who enjoyed it.

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Dragoni89 wrote...

supershrink wrote...

I will still be purchasing Bioware games. I liked the ending for what it is. People need to look beyond just Shepard at what endings provide for the series. It allows Bioware to add more games to the series without being permanentally bogged down with one character. While I was sad that Shepard died, it allows for the game to evolve beyond just this story arc and continue with the darker themes that the game has always had. I think people are looking for a Disney happily ever after and in many ways throughout the three games there has been nothing like that.


This litterally the end of the mass effect universe, no matter which ending. The reason I personally waited 5 years for ME3 is for ending (story). The first 2 games had disney ending and not so disney endings. On the final game they killed the universe and your character. 3 endings. Alot of us just can not accpet this and we should not have to.

The universe is not destroyed, its just means that any game set after this will have to be based a long time after this or fill in any holes on how the races regained faster than light travel. It is most definentally changed forever, but not destroyed.

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supershrink wrote...

I will still be purchasing Bioware games. I liked the ending for what it is. People need to look beyond just Shepard at what endings provide for the series. It allows Bioware to add more games to the series without being permanentally bogged down with one character. While I was sad that Shepard died, it allows for the game to evolve beyond just this story arc and continue with the darker themes that the game has always had. I think people are looking for a Disney happily ever after and in many ways throughout the three games there has been nothing like that.


The series can't continue from here the same way...

No matter what happens the relays are destroyed, the Normandy is wrecked on an apparently deserted planet and in general there's no way to effectively travel between more than a star or two.

The game went from everything hinting towrad something mysterious happening with Dark Energy (so many references in ME2 from people/planet info, more in ME3) to a mysterious, unexplained "all powerful" THING appearing in the last 10min and trying to tell us that while it could make the Reapers, Relay system and Citadel, the best plan for preventing synthetics killing everyone was to kill everyone with synthetics.

The only thing to support the explanation for the cycle at the end of the game was an offhand reference by Jarvik about geth like beings in his own time, which I guess puts to rest that it was made AFTER the game was finished.

I would prefer a darker ending where more people are shown sacrificing themselves if we got an ending that made sense, actually showed us any sort of changes from our desicions and let us see what happened afterward.

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Bioware NEEDS to make a new ending... FREE UPDATE or something, this is STUPID... worst ending(s) in a video game ever!   >:C

almost $80 (Col. Ed.) and for what?!? 

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KillSlash45 wrote...

MrChowderClam wrote...

So much hate on a fansite... :|

So where do I go if I want to talk with people who actually liked the game


Other online game communities. On other places it seems there are more users who enjoyed it.



I loved the game, I HATED the last 10min of the game.

3 meaningless choices that are unaffected by what you did in any of the games (wooo Shepard can survive if you play a load of MP and get a lot of strength, so what). A forced in explanation of the reapers, and a seemingly retarded godlike being that took the form of a kid I saw twice.

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Yakob wrote...

The series can't continue from here the same way...

No matter what happens the relays are destroyed, the Normandy is wrecked on an apparently deserted planet and in general there's no way to effectively travel between more than a star or two.

The game went from everything hinting towrad something mysterious happening with Dark Energy (so many references in ME2 from people/planet info, more in ME3) to a mysterious, unexplained "all powerful" THING appearing in the last 10min and trying to tell us that while it could make the Reapers, Relay system and Citadel, the best plan for preventing synthetics killing everyone was to kill everyone with synthetics.


No, it can't continue with Shepherd  and his crew. that's  the point. Other games can take palce with a WHOLE NEW cast of characters at some point in the future when civilizations have advanced enough to re create the technology destroyed, or somewhere close to it.

The plan wasn't for the reapers to kill "everyone".....it was for them to only wipe  out ADVANCED civilizations that could soon create an AI that wipes out ALL organic  life, advanced and not advanced. So yeah, end endings DO make sense.

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Not only am I not buying another game to invest my time in, I'm cancelling my SWTOR subscription.

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personally I think your poll is too restrictive. it's like a black and white thing.

I always buy games on a case by case basis and I don't see myself changing that. sure the ending wasn't that great but if they put out another game that I genuinely enjoy and have fun with, why would I not buy it?

my answer ultimately is "maybe"