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[Vikali]

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

[Dean_the_Young]

CorvisRex wrote...

Renjin wrote...

 Bioware broke my heart with these endings. I just feel betrayed... I walked in to this game with so much passion. Now I can barely play the game.

That is axactly how I feel, my heart is broken, Like finding out that a 5 year long relationship was just a lie, and the person was just using you.

Have you ever even had a five year relationship that turned out to be a lie?

I don't know if I will ever buy another Bioware game.  Every game Bioware has ever put out has been in my top list of favorite games of all time, I have waited in line, in the snow, at midnight to buy them.

But now, no, Bioware will have to work, and work hard to ever regain a glimmer of the trust and loyalty they have betrayed.

If every game (but this one, presumably) was amazing to you, and this was a dud, why are presuming every game to follow will be akin to your ME3 disappointment? Rather than, you know, the other half-dozen odd RPGs that Bioware has made?

There's a distinct lack of pattern recognition going on here.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

SilencedScream wrote...

Used, from the bargain bin, here, if I'm tempted to buy it at all.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed the rest of ME3. But knowing about the end (and then actually playing it through, myself) took a lot away from my enjoyment of the game.

Yeah, despite playing so much ME (ME1, 2, the demo, and 3) and even writing several well-received fanfiction stories on the series, I can't do any of that any more knowing that the entire IP is essentially killed by the endings and nothing we do matters in any meaningful way. It's not even a case of "The Bad Guys Win" as "Deus Ex Machina fundamentally erases the IP and no closure or even core details about the endings are given".

I've never seen such an effective and unecessary case of IP-suicide.

And the fact that this happened to BioWare's flagship IP and by far most popular and anticipated game ever means that, absent some huge and dramatic change, I will never trust BioWare again, period. I won't invest--financially or emotionally--into any of their future games or stories, knowing that this is ALWAYS a significant danger.

It wasn't a "sad" ending, it was just BAD. In every sense of the word.

Modifié par SaltyWaffles-PD, 09 mars 2012 - 01:08 .

[Landline]

I didn't like the ending because it completely erased all of the relationships I had with the characters. Some of them were build over the course of three games, and a romance that was built over two.

It had all of the elements you need for a glorious happy ending that will leave you smiling for the rest of the day and leave you wanting more.

Instead we got this.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

350 of the staunchest fans, and rapidly growing. And it's almost certainly representative of the whole core fanbase of the ME series, and you can bet that a huge chunk of the first-time-ME-players scratched their heads at the ending, wondering how anything they did in the game up until that point actually meant anything.

[Dracotamer]

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

If  350 is only 10% of the vocal fanbase that's stil a decent portion of people who will not be purchasing. Consider how many people aren't even going to check these forums anymore, or the non vocal gamers? I'm sure there will be thousands of gamers not accounted for that feel the same way.

[mikeaj1024]

I think im going to cancel my swtor sub now.  I dont know if they are capable of writing a story anymore with the way that this game and DA2 ended (which i also enjoyed despite some major flaws until the ending). Their writing staff needs new leads, because while they can write lore and dialog as well as anyone their over arching plots have become a mess.

Modifié par mikeaj1024, 09 mars 2012 - 01:13 .

[Dracotamer]

I'm considering canceling SWTOR as well, but holding out to see Bioware's response.

[Landline]

mikeaj1024 wrote...

I think im going to cancel my swtor sub now. The way that this game and DA2 ended (which i also enjoyed despite some major flaws until the ending). Their writing staff needs new leads, because while they can write lore and dialog as well as anyone there over arching plots have become a mess.

I've said before that Bioware has some talented people on the payrole, but their core story writers are quite evidently not on that list.

[Vikali]

SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

350 of the staunchest fans, and rapidly growing. And it's almost certainly representative of the whole core fanbase of the ME series, and you can bet that a huge chunk of the first-time-ME-players scratched their heads at the ending, wondering how anything they did in the game up until that point actually meant anything.

Forums never represent a majority of a fanbase.

[Vikali]

Dracotamer wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

If  350 is only 10% of the vocal fanbase that's stil a decent portion of people who will not be purchasing. Consider how many people aren't even going to check these forums anymore, or the non vocal gamers? I'm sure there will be thousands of gamers not accounted for that feel the same way.

And people who play wow said that with wrath/cata/<insert raid here>/<insert patch/class change here>.
That company is still thriving. Tantrums are never productive. Being mature ond trying to open dialogue in a mature manner is usually the best course.

[MarauderESP]

first with da2 and now this.... i had to see it coming.....

[Kia Purity]

I honestly don't think I'd purchase any more games. ME3 was it for me.

RIght now, I'm actually having a very hard time motivating myself to finish the game.

[Dracotamer]

KitePolaris wrote...

Dracotamer wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

If  350 is only 10% of the vocal fanbase that's stil a decent portion of people who will not be purchasing. Consider how many people aren't even going to check these forums anymore, or the non vocal gamers? I'm sure there will be thousands of gamers not accounted for that feel the same way.

And people who play wow said that with wrath/cata/<insert raid here>/<insert patch/class change here>.
That company is still thriving. Tantrums are never productive. Being mature ond trying to open dialogue in a mature manner is usually the best course.

Look how many subscribers WoW has been losing since those expansions/updates. Seem pretty productive to me.

[mikeaj1024]

They aren't a good representation but the correlation isn't so low that the opinions are meaningless. Its not just on bioware's forums where this is being discussed several other gaming website seem to have the same discussion going on with the limited number of people that have finished it. We havent seen the flood of opinions yet because most people wont beat it until this weekend. But the amount of uniform hatred has to be pretty shocking to them and is a very very bad sign.

I have never seen so much hatred from core fanbase of a franchise, usually a very large chunk is happy no matter what. That seems to not be the case with this game.

[SnakeSNMF]

Everything was good for me-- Up until the ending, of course. The Crucible idea sounded appealing. And then the end came, where the Guardian came about and told us.. Cliche things.
And then along came the repercussion of ****ty concepts where they're not at all resolutions and abandon any sort of thing we've done in the series but not only that, goes so as far as to throw away what makes the univesre whole, what Bioware specifically took time to create-- the realistic physics.
The universe.
And they abandoned my characters that I've grown to love after eighty-nine playthroughs all together of ME1 and ME2?

And after buying the CE?
Yeah, not happening. :\\

[Vikali]

Dracotamer wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

Dracotamer wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

So 350 people will be having an everlasting tantrum. That'll teach 'em.

If  350 is only 10% of the vocal fanbase that's stil a decent portion of people who will not be purchasing. Consider how many people aren't even going to check these forums anymore, or the non vocal gamers? I'm sure there will be thousands of gamers not accounted for that feel the same way.

And people who play wow said that with wrath/cata/<insert raid here>/<insert patch/class change here>.
That company is still thriving. Tantrums are never productive. Being mature ond trying to open dialogue in a mature manner is usually the best course.

Look how many subscribers WoW has been losing since those expansions/updates. Seem pretty productive to me.

In fact they're gonna get more money out of their brainwashed fanbase with their next game. Why not just keep things civil? Hell, you people can't go two days without exploding. Everyone has their issues with the ending (and some parts are confirmed as unintentneded), but the outrage is like a kid whose milk got stolen. Let them finish releasing the game and keep coming at them in a mature, adult fashion.

[Dragoni89]

It is small sample size and could very possibly represent people's opinions on larger scale

[Phydeaux314]

DA2's ending was better than this, by a long shot. This reminds me a lot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, except that in DEHR it was at least in theme with the story.

But as for the OP's question, no. I will probably continue to buy Bioware games, because despite this colossal foulup, 99% of the game is still awesome. I just want them to go, take a month or two, and release some DLC that FIXES this.

[ArcanistLibram]

I'm not buying anything Bioware makes until they fix Mass Effect 3's ending. Destroying the mass relays would have apocalyptic consequences that would be very nearly as bad as letting the Reapers win. You can't pretend that everything turned out okay after that.

[MA5Bergey]

Dragoni89 wrote...

It is small sample size and could very possibly represent people's opinions on larger scale

Out of everything and everyone I've seen in whatever form of media, the ONLY people I have seen satisfied with the endings are reviewers (and after seeing Jessica Chobot and that feature review at IGN, you know they were paid off).  Even then, a lot of reviewers are criticizing the endings.  On BSN alone, I've seen hundreds upon hundreds of people complain about the ending.  Extrapolate.  Even assuming 20% of the fanbase disliked the ending, if ME3 sells 5 million copies, that's a million people.

Bioware has gone to **** since they were bought out by EA.  ME3 was a great game, but the endings were unforgivably bad.  And to have that following DAII, it's not a good sign.  I'll be very, very wary of buying anything they put out in the future.

Modifié par MA5Bergey, 09 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[Rawgrim]

Don`t the different civilizations have blueprints or something of the relays, though? So they could make new ones somehow.

[Eterna]

Dracotamer wrote...

Woke up this morning and found this thread flourishing. Already 344 votes for no in my poll.

You must be so proud.

[Vikali]

MA5Bergey wrote...

Dragoni89 wrote...

It is small sample size and could very possibly represent people's opinions on larger scale

Out of everything and everyone I've seen in whatever form of media, the ONLY people I have seen satisfied with the endings are reviewers (and after seeing Jessica Chobot and that feature review at IGN, you know they were paid off).  Even then, a lot of reviewers are criticizing the endings.  On BSN alone, I've seen hundreds upon hundreds of people complain about the ending.  Extrapolate.  Even assuming 20% of the fanbase disliked the ending, if ME3 sells 5 million copies, that's a million people.

Bioware has gone to **** since they were bought out by EA.  ME3 was a great game, but the endings were unforgivably bad.  And to have that following DAII, it's not a good sign.  I'll be very, very wary of buying anything they put out in the future.

Hundreds? I see all the same people in the threads.

[stwu]

I feel betrayed. I don't pretend to be a writer or creative but this bombshell of an ending is pure crap.
I have played this series over and over again made sure my games were ready for this and then I find that no matter what I've done my Shepard has to die. For a series that was all about choices I sure didn't get any. There should be three ending. A rainbow and butterflies ending. A realistic ending where there are heavy losses but Shepard is victorious and one that allows Shepard to die for the cause. I really hate how they killed off so many characters and half of them don't even join you. This is a slap in the face and the only reason I even got the CE of this game was because it was done by a different team than DA2's. I was so excited when it came out and know all I feel is an all too familair feeling of genuine dissapointment. So no I won't be buying from them anytime soon but I doubt they care, they already got my 80 bucks. I have two words for Bioware: Fix it.

Modifié par stwu, 09 mars 2012 - 01:58 .