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[Tel47]

You know there is a part of me that feels for the guy, but he spent the credits and i still don't get it if he lives in the UK how he is playing it as the release date is the 9th March, you can not play a legal copy as it needs to activate and i tried mine a few minutes ago and it still says i have to wait until the release date.

[Shin Yodama]

Jeez Tel47, the workaround has been posted in plenty of places on the forum, and seemingly EA don't care about it. Start a thread up about it if you wish, but don't derail an important topic like this, please.

[Wulfram]

Tel47 wrote...

You know there is a part of me that feels for the guy, but he spent the credits and i still don't get it if he lives in the UK how he is playing it as the release date is the 9th March, you can not play a legal copy as it needs to activate and i tried mine a few minutes ago and it still says i have to wait until the release date.

There are sneaky ways around the activation date, which I'm not sure we're supposed to talk about on the forum.  But which it has been indicated wouldn't be cause to get you banned if you used them.

[SidNitzerglobin]

PapVogel-Fessa wrote...

Am I the only one thats thinking that you should'nt have bought all those spectre packs for all those millions of credits that you got by "accidentally" joining a game that had been modded?

Your alarm bells should've rung the moment you saw that you had gained millions of credits, and you should've contacted bioware/EA to sort it out. Its like finding a wallet on the street with 100.000$ in it and you spending it, and not expecting to get punished for it...

Now it sucks that you cant play your DLC, but getting banned is legit in this situation.

This is how Turn10 would handle things in Forza 4.  You generally wouldn't get banned due to glitches and bugs giving you butloads of credits, you would if you spent them.

[Sylvius the Mad]

ImperaTodd wrote...

So you are working at a gas station and someone busts open the safe and robs the place. The crook offers you money for being there, you can: a) call the cops and turn  or spend it and say i didn't it was wrong, I didn't take it intially. Wonder which will get a stint in the pokey?

Not relevantly similar.  You weren't expecting to have some random guy hand you money at the gas station.

It's more like if the cashier at the gas station gave you incorrect change.  Are you doing something wrong by not pointing out the error?  I would argue no, as your actions are exactly the same as they would have been had you been given the correct change.  A lack of change in behaviour requires a lack of change in moral value.

[Wulfram]

I think asking players to report the issue rather than use the credits is reasonable, but I don't think banning them without having made that request is.

[Maria Caliban]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

It's more like if the cashier at the gas station gave you incorrect change.  Are you doing something wrong by not pointing out the error?  I would argue no, as your actions are exactly the same as they would have been had you been given the correct change.  A lack of change in behaviour requires a lack of change in moral value.

In different situations the same action (or inaction) can have different moral values. For example, I'm under no obligation to tell people I'm in frequent contact with that I have a non-contagious infection, but I am obliged to tell them if I have a contagious one. And even then, there's a sliding scale of social responsibility. Going to see my mother when I have a cold is fine, going to see my mother when I have the cold and she's taking radiation therapy is not fine. If I make sure wash my hands when I cough into them and use antibacterial wipes at my workplace, I don't need to tell every customer I have that I'm sick. If I make sure wash my hands when I cough into them and use antibacterial wipes at my house, I should still tell someone before they kiss me.

Likewise, yeah, not telling a cashier that they gave you an extra 5 cents is one thing, but if said cashier gives you an extra $50, you should tell them. At the end of the night, they're going to be responsible for that $50, and it could come out of their pay or become a mark against them.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 08 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[Wulfram]

But in this case it's not 5 cents or $50. It's totally fake cash, which you get by playing a game.

[OMGOSHNESS]

Sorry to hear that TC. That sucks. Good luck getting this cleared up.

No offense though, but why did you spend them all? You should've known better and realized that it could have had reprecussions.

Modifié par OMGOSHNESS, 08 mars 2012 - 11:25 .

[Maria Caliban]

Wulfram wrote...

But in this case it's not 5 cents or $50. It's totally fake cash, which you get by playing a game.

Certainly. I'm not arguing that the situations are the same.

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Thanks for this warning. I guess that means I'm lucky to have Mass Effect: Infiltrator for my galactic readiness, because if you barely play the game and already had this happen, I'm sure I would have this happen eventually. I might not spend the credits, but it'd still be easy for someone to think I was hacking. So... multiplayer is like Russian Roulette now, huh?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

It's more like if the cashier at the gas station gave you incorrect change.  Are you doing something wrong by not pointing out the error?  I would argue no, as your actions are exactly the same as they would have been had you been given the correct change.  A lack of change in behaviour requires a lack of change in moral value.

In different situations the same action (or inaction) can have different moral values. For example, I'm under no obligation to tell people I'm in frequent contact with that I have a non-contagious infection, but I am obliged to tell them if I have a contagious one.

I would argue that carrying a disease is an action.  Otherwise there would be no difference between presenting you with a box of sandwishes or presenting with a box of plague blankets.

Likewise, yeah, not telling a cashier that they gave you an extra 5 cents is one thing, but if said cashier gives you an extra $50, you should tell them. At the end of the night, they're going to be responsible for that $50, and it could come out of their pay or become a mark against them.

They should be held responsible for that $50.  They shouldn't have given it to me.

[Joker1117]

OMGOSHNESS wrote...

Sorry to hear that TC. That sucks. Good luck getting this cleared up.

No offense though, but why did you spend them all? You should've known better and realized that it could have had reprecussions.

My thoughts exactly. This should have been common sense. Just because you didn't create it doesn't mean you can abuse it.

[Semtex Jack]

Joker1117 wrote...

OMGOSHNESS wrote...

Sorry to hear that TC. That sucks. Good luck getting this cleared up.

No offense though, but why did you spend them all? You should've known better and realized that it could have had reprecussions.

My thoughts exactly. This should have been common sense. Just because you didn't create it doesn't mean you can abuse it.

Yeah, I know. I even said so in the first post. It was a dumb thing to do.

I have kinda twisted morals when it comes to games, too many rogue characters, too long thieving in the elder scrolls games, too long playing renegades in mass effect. Leads me to make some bad decisions.

[True Zarken]

With how crap the unlock system is and the fact you can spend Bioware Points to buy booster packs I honestly can't blame people for hacking credits. You could spend one million credits and you may never get the Salarian Infiltrator or the Turian Sentinel you wanted.

It's all well and good that Bioware is trying a different unlock system, but they could've gone with one that is not incredibly stupid and based entirely on luck.

I am not supporting hacking, or anything like that I just think it's stupid that you could be playing for hours and hours trying to get the races or classes your wanted and all you will get is a level upgrade for the pistol you don't use. 

Modifié par True Zarken, 09 mars 2012 - 12:12 .

[Sheonite]

Getting banned for modding local files that makes EA think they lost money (because you aren't spending BioWare points on the crates) is silly.

I know you didn't edit them... but really? What PC gamer DOESN'T eventually mod their game?

[True Zarken]

This is Co-Op, why should anyone get banned for hacking in a co-op game? I'd understand in a competitive multi-player like Call of Duty or Battlefield, but Mass Effect 3? I'd completely understand if there was so form of competitive element to it apart from ladder climbing, but Come on!

This is also troubling because I needed to use an FOV hack during the Demo because I wanted to play it for more than 15 minutes. The limited FOV made me have headaches, eye strain and motion sickness, this "hack" is some what crucial to my enjoyment of the game. I would happily apply this FOV hack, but I fear a ban from Origin and the majority of games currently linked to this account that I spent hundreds of dollars on.

Modifié par True Zarken, 09 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[Malanek]

As it stands at the moment this will lock them out of other EA games which they pay subs for like SWTOR right? I would advise Bioware/EA to err on the side of of caution when banning people here. It's not a competitive game and your reputation will take a serious hit from doing things like this. Perhaps if uncertain ban them from ME3 multiplayer only until you figure out exactly what is going on. And maybe a warning first is a possibility.

[True Zarken]

Malanek999 wrote...

As it stands at the moment this will lock them out of other EA games which they pay subs for like SWTOR right? I would advise Bioware/EA to err on the side of of caution when banning people here. It's not a competitive game and your reputation will take a serious hit from doing things like this. Perhaps if uncertain ban them from ME3 multiplayer only until you figure out exactly what is going on. And maybe a warning first is a possibility.

With how Happy-Ban everyone seems to be lately I wouldn't count on it, which is a shame. If I lost access to FIFA 12, SWTOR, KoA:R, Mass Effect 2 & 3 all because of a hack someone else did or the FOV "hack" like I mentioned above I'd be pretty annoyed (trying to keep it PG here ). 

[Chaoswind]

We PC gamers tend to mod some parts to improve our own experience with the game, I got a ton of mods for spyrim... Anyways modding the MP is bad, but banning you of all your games and the single player is beyond overkill, is like killing a child because he fought at school.

[jelf rs]

Alithinos wrote...

That's crazy!
They aren't even real money... Heck,it even isn't a competitive game of player vs player,is EA banning because of somebody cheating in Co-op ? Really ?
What madness is this ? Are you totally serious ?

I play BF3 and when someone cheats once in a server he just gets kicked FROM THE SERVER not from his ORIGIN ACCOUNT (!)

What on Earth is wrong ?

Mass Effect 3:
People cheat credits = people buy less Bioware points = EA gets less money = EA mad

BF3:
People cheat = other players got screwed = not affecting EA much since you've all bought the game = EA don't care

[True Zarken]

jelf rs wrote...
Mass Effect 3:
People cheat credits = people buy less Bioware points = EA gets less money = EA mad

BF3:
People cheat = other players got screwed = not affecting EA much since you've all bought the game = EA don't care

Sounds about right. I stopped play BF3 because of the amount of people cheating in a 'competitve' multiplayer.

Modifié par True Zarken, 09 mars 2012 - 01:23 .

[Semtex Jack]

Still no word back from EA and I'm still banned from playing Mass Effect 3.

Also I tried to play single player without the DLC - Every time I load the save it says I'm not allowed to, because I don't have the From Ashes DLC authorized.

[Zeratul20]

Jarrett Lee wrote...
If this happens to you, I recommend not spending them

Sound advice. Thanks for the heads-up!