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GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

I heard of a secret ending if you import that Shep and beat the game again.

I don't know if I have it in me to be disappointed like that again...



when they talk about secret ending they are talking about the Stargazer/Buzz Aldrin Ending after the credits.  There is nothing else.

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Seanabhainn wrote...

I was with ME3 100% until the Catalyst. Then there was grief and confusion on multiple levels. Until I have concrete proof there's something better, I can't drag myself through it again.



Exactly. The game seemed to be going great, everything was even better then ME2. And then came around the Cataclyst at the ending, where you're given those "three options" by the kid who's haunted you.

How cliche on Biowares' part for the child for one, and two-- The endings.. They just flatout sucked in general. But I was up with it until that.

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Greed1914 wrote...

*quote pyramid snip*

That is why I really hate that I have to destroy synthetics for Shepard to live.  Really?  Even though the Geth are not inherently hostile?  Even though I helped EDI understand what it is to have free will and helped the Geth achieve what equates to life and they're now actively helping the race that tried to destroy them?  So now it becomes a choice of abondoning my friends and LI or kill off EDI and the Geth?

If you take control of the Reapers your body is destroyed but it seems like your mind is 'uploaded' into the Citadel. The Blue outro shows the Citadel closing and the relay taking a little damage but not exploding as in the other two options. EDI has spent most of the game waltzing around in a shiny body as long as it was within range of the Normandy and the Citadel/Crucible uses the entire mass relay network as an interferometer (if you happened to gain/read that particular war asset entry) so Shepard is theoretically just as alive as EDI and capable of running an android body anywhere in range of the still intact relay network.

So in my opinion the best ending is the one advocated by the obvious villain and which requires you to use the end product of an atrocity. That it is easier to get the better version of the control ending if you saved the collector base and to get the better version of the destroy ending if you destroyed it seems to be rewarding consistancy.

I have replaced End004.bik with a blank file since following this ending there seems little reason for the Normandy crew not to have been rescued after a few days.

Modifié par Richpur, 10 mars 2012 - 12:51 .


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Wazooty wrote...

It only happens if you're maxed out on war assets and choose the red ending (kill synthetics).

After all the crap we've been through, in the end, in order to actually KILL the reapers, you have to kill EDI, the geth that you've made friends, and set the galaxy back thousands of years. Oh but you get to survive! Too bad you'll never see your crew ever again.

That is just a terrible ending. If I'm not seeing my crew again I'd probably rather be dead.

Let us get an ending where we survive where the galaxy doesn't get set back. Where you have little blue babies on some faraway planet. It's the end of the story - you make tough decisions all the way throughout so that in the end you can live happily. The end itself doesn't need to be a lose-lose decision.

Given that it is possible to ally with the geth and the quarians, not to mention EDIs new free will, you completely disprove the reapers theory that synthetics and organics can't get along.  The entire reason for them existing has been disproven and they should leave.


This is war and in war there rarely is a win-lose scenario. Yeah it sucks kill the geth and EDI or die. My issue with the ending was not shep choices but the lack of closure based on my choices but the stuff that happens after.

The premise was no one player will have the same story okay but show me how my story is different how did the quarian world turn out, how about the Krogan did they stay peacefull or did they wage war ? I would have been okay with just a text summary but I got nothing. 

Bioware should look at Marvel Alliance on how to do multiple endings with choice consqunces or better yet chrono trigger. 

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4 years waiting for this :/

Why does it suddenly feel like Bioware looked at Deus Ex: Human Revolution and said: "Yeah, that's a good way to do an ending." ?

I seriously feel cheated. Not to mention the collector's edition... An artbook, really? A "lithographic print"? A "cloth patch?"

And i still fell for it.



There's so many good things in the game. They did get the pacing of the story itself right,. Character interaction was pretty good. It felt far less linear and limited than ME2.

But then there's the utterly boring and repetitive combat. The final battles were BORING and tedious. The only tense battle in the entire game was targetpainting the reaper. Nothing else felt right. Chest high walls returning en masse, just with slightly different corners and shapes. Same enemies over and over and over. Playing ME1 again last week made me realize that despite it's flaws the combat is a lot more fun and less of a pain to sit through, also because the levels are not structured to feel like lengthy corridors designed only to slow your progress to the next story area.

The level design itself is just sad. There is no level in the game that really stood out. The opening which SHOULD have stood out was a lengthy, linear path with waves of enemies at the end, which was my first warning sign. The looks weren't right either - From sprites to digital oil posing as water to the hilariously bad animations.

The only area in the entire game that felt right was the Normandy, but i'm not sure whether that counts since it's been lifted wholesale from ME2, which in turn was based on ME1.

EVA being a replacement for EDI? You only see her in the last third of a single mission early on in the game. Why such a ridiculously convoluted way to give EDI a body?

Scanning is tedious, especially given the reaper presence. Makes me want for the Mako. Again.

The entire game feels "compromised". Half-assed. For every great thing about it there's something horrid. A "sex" scene? Really? Bioware seems to have fallen in a rut where every 'romance' needs to end in coitus. It's hilarious rather than moving - It wasn't necessary and if it should be done anyway it should have been done better. Not to mention that femshep got stuck with maleshep animations during it, which makes the entire thing even more unbearable.

No graphics options whatsoever except some TRUE/FALSE options. Semi-high res textures mixed with ridiculously low res textures in the very same shot on the same character, Feels like the PC got shafted yet again.

But i digress...

The major crime here is the ending. Did Bioware feel the need to 'break the cliche'? Why would the expected ending be impossible and why does a crucial story development happen in the very last minutes of a story spanning 3 games?

It feels like a cop out. I could have lived with the choices if they were at least HINTED at SOMEWHERE in the previous 60 hours of gameplay. Instead we get slammed in the face with something.... Well, something. It doesn't feel right and i can't imagine how the writers thought that this would be decent, or even acceptable.

Ugh, enough ranting. Bioware, you've thoroughly dissapointed me. I'm not so sure i'm going to be buying another game or DLC again. Everything from before is soured by this one ending...

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ya I just beat it and wow.... the endings sucked.

was so epic up till that last part and i was like wtf? this is stupid... I basically get to choose how I die? =/

and when they showed the normandy crashing where did they end up? some random planet? there were so many things that left me wondering. even if Shepard lives, she cant be with her love interest in the end? that sucks, I'd rather be dead =(

I really hope there will be some different (happier) ending because the ME series was so built up that an ending like this is just... unacceptable >_<

i dunno, i hated it. all the endings are meh. really disappointed

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shnellegaming wrote...

GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

I heard of a secret ending if you import that Shep and beat the game again.

I don't know if I have it in me to be disappointed like that again...



when they talk about secret ending they are talking about the Stargazer/Buzz Aldrin Ending after the credits.  There is nothing else.


That doesn't sound right. I got the stargazer ending when I beat the game the first time. Currently struggling through my second. Hopefully will find something new at the end.

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Lord Nikon 001 wrote...

shnellegaming wrote...

GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

I heard of a secret ending if you import that Shep and beat the game again.

I don't know if I have it in me to be disappointed like that again...



when they talk about secret ending they are talking about the Stargazer/Buzz Aldrin Ending after the credits.  There is nothing else.


That doesn't sound right. I got the stargazer ending when I beat the game the first time. Currently struggling through my second. Hopefully will find something new at the end.


There isn't. Promise you.

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I got the shep lives ending (First time through). I played some Coop and got up to 6000+ resources and readiness was about 89%. The slight movement is him/her taking a breath. o and I shot TIM 

is this what you are talking about?

Modifié par tyler7196, 10 mars 2012 - 05:00 .


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Well I was gonna go ahead and do another playthru with my Mass Effect 3 character thinking there may be a better ending, but now I'm thinking I'll juts leave it, this has killed my desire to play because it's so depressing.  I will eventually play 1 and 2 again and maybe 3 but only to the last bit so I don't have to go thru the ending again Image IPB

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Tancho wrote...

Okay, again, the guide states: "A secret ending is also available to players who complete the game a second time."

So, some people have already played it twice and said it didn't happen. First, the guide does give all options, so it's not like they missed one and are claiming it's the NG+ ending. Second, I think the wording is being misread. It says a secret ending is available if you have COMPLETED the game a second time.


I beat the game 3 times :

- A rush of 20 hours
- A normal game of 30-40 hours to do everything
- Then a rush of 6 hours to do the choice i dont do previously

No secret ending.

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Lord Nikon 001 wrote...

shnellegaming wrote...

GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

I heard of a secret ending if you import that Shep and beat the game again.

I don't know if I have it in me to be disappointed like that again...



when they talk about secret ending they are talking about the Stargazer/Buzz Aldrin Ending after the credits.  There is nothing else.


That doesn't sound right. I got the stargazer ending when I beat the game the first time. Currently struggling through my second. Hopefully will find something new at the end.


Importing a save counts as NG+ as with previous (see ME2 achivement for either NG+ or import)

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Not sure if it was an error on BW, but you can choose the red ending "destroying synthetics" and sitll see EDI with joker at the crash site. Maybe this is true if the geth are aware as EDI? i dont know. Though it sucks, because we really don't know if they really kill all geth or not because we don't see it.

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Lord Nikon 001

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Quietness wrote...

Lord Nikon 001 wrote...

shnellegaming wrote...

GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

I heard of a secret ending if you import that Shep and beat the game again.

I don't know if I have it in me to be disappointed like that again...



when they talk about secret ending they are talking about the Stargazer/Buzz Aldrin Ending after the credits.  There is nothing else.


That doesn't sound right. I got the stargazer ending when I beat the game the first time. Currently struggling through my second. Hopefully will find something new at the end.


Importing a save counts as NG+ as with previous (see ME2 achivement for either NG+ or import)


DOH!      *facepalm*

Modifié par Lord Nikon 001, 10 mars 2012 - 05:01 .


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I think the only 'secret ending' is the one where you see Shepard take a breath, implying he/she survived.
You can get that one if you import a game.

Modifié par Bamboo33, 10 mars 2012 - 05:00 .


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Bamboo33 wrote...

I think the only 'secret ending' is the one where you see Shepard take a breath, implying he/she survived.
You can get that one if you import a game.


Bingo, that is the "secret ending" from all accounts. we'll ignore the fact that the people who save shepard are on some far flung planet and will not be coming for her, What you'll die from your wounds anyways? Well enjoy your special ending!

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Yeah the so called secret ending is worse than just killing Shepard off and being done with it.

Modifié par Bamboo33, 10 mars 2012 - 05:13 .


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I absolutely loved everything about this game. I loved seeing all the characters come back. I loved the dialogue. I loved that the crew could meet you on the Citadel for R&R. The scanning missions, as usual, were pretty annoying, but really, everything was fantastic.... until the end which ripped my heart out and stomped on it like Shepard crushing a husk head. Bittersweet is okay...but this. I don't even know what to say.

I would be okay with Shepard dying. I would be okay with a lot of things in this ending if they did a few more things with it. They left it far too open. The Stargazer ending did nothing to add to anything for me. I want an epilogue. Even if this is in the form of some story text like at the end of DA:O.

The Normandy crew survived for me, so what are they doing? How is Liara holding up? What after effects did curing the genophage do? How are the quarians getting by without the geth helping them now? What is life like on other planets without the Mass Relays? Make what I did count and give me some context. Right now, I get 3 short cut scenes. Fallout: New Vegas's lack of proper cutscenes in the end was 50x better than this crap, at least I knew what effect all my decisions had on the world.

Also, does it make sense to anyone else what happened to the Normandy? I would assume they would be flying around Earth with the rest of the fleet. It looked like they got stuck in one of the destroyed Mass Relays. I guess I just wanted better context for that explosion, especially since they were the only ship you saw get hit by it. Can't we just have them be on Earth and helping rebuild or something? If I was dead in this situation, I'd be okay. And that would at least leave it open for me surviving and making my way down there to be with them even if I don't see it happen.

As a plea to Bioware, you can take all my money with DLC if you just let me have a (mostly) happy ending with Liara (or whoever my LI might be; I have characters just as invested in Garrus and Tali) and my crew.

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vampirelupus wrote...

I absolutely loved everything about this game. I loved seeing all the characters come back. I loved the dialogue. I loved that the crew could meet you on the Citadel for R&R. The scanning missions, as usual, were pretty annoying, but really, everything was fantastic.... until the end which ripped my heart out and stomped on it like Shepard crushing a husk head. Bittersweet is okay...but this. I don't even know what to say.

I would be okay with Shepard dying. I would be okay with a lot of things in this ending if they did a few more things with it. They left it far too open. The Stargazer ending did nothing to add to anything for me. I want an epilogue. Even if this is in the form of some story text like at the end of DA:O.

The Normandy crew survived for me, so what are they doing? How is Liara holding up? What after effects did curing the genophage do? How are the quarians getting by without the geth helping them now? What is life like on other planets without the Mass Relays? Make what I did count and give me some context. Right now, I get 3 short cut scenes. Fallout: New Vegas's lack of proper cutscenes in the end was 50x better than this crap, at least I knew what effect all my decisions had on the world.

Also, does it make sense to anyone else what happened to the Normandy? I would assume they would be flying around Earth with the rest of the fleet. It looked like they got stuck in one of the destroyed Mass Relays. I guess I just wanted better context for that explosion, especially since they were the only ship you saw get hit by it. Can't we just have them be on Earth and helping rebuild or something? If I was dead in this situation, I'd be okay. And that would at least leave it open for me surviving and making my way down there to be with them even if I don't see it happen.

As a plea to Bioware, you can take all my money with DLC if you just let me have a (mostly) happy ending with Liara (or whoever my LI might be; I have characters just as invested in Garrus and Tali) and my crew.


Quoted for truth!
Also let us choose to only destroy the reapers and not ALL synthetic forms of live. This makes no sense because in my ME3 savegame the Geth (and AIs like EDI are "best buds".
So disapointed right now of how ME3 ends I dont even want/plan a second run through.
(ave 6 run throughs with ME1 and 9 with ME2 but wont have much more than 1 with ME3. Guess this says all).

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In all honesty, the endings of ME3 was abysmal.. It was like watching the ending of Battlestar Galactica, watching all your investments into the characters, the universe, everything, just get looked at with a funny look, laughed at, shrugged off and then stomped on..

All the way till the rush towards the beam, i was like ":D!!!" while thinking "DIE REAPERS DIE!"..
Then the ending came along, and i was like "well, ok, i can still kill the reapers, but i just lost Garrus and Liara, and now Anderson, oh well, i still have Joker!"

But then the kid, oh god the kid.. that was when the feeling of "WTF" came along, and lastly but not least, the three choises. My end wasn't based on how good i was, how horrible i was, how caring i was or any of my actions all the way through the game, but based on what i wanted in that moment.

And all i wanted was to save the galaxy, not by watching EDI getting killed, not by picking the Illusive Mans way of being an evil douche, so i picked the symbiosis ending..


Nuff said, ME3 is deleted now

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yeah thats exactly how i felt like... The game was one of the best, if not the best storry heavy game i have ever played until i was beamed up to the citadel and .... the stupid kid appeared....
this is how i looked like: http://omgface.com/v...d/the fuck1.jpg

I can only pray that they will offer a "DLC" with a better ending. But for free just like companys like Bethesda or CD Project RED did (and still do!) with ther "babys" like The Witcher and Elder Scrolls.

I wont touch any other cost free DLC / expansion / add on / me 4 / what ever as long as they do not offer a proper ending.

I want an epic ending where Shep survives and the organic forms of life coexist in peace with the synthetics! i want an ending, where shep returns from the citadel to all his friends getting his more than deserved medals and maybe even monuments!
And finally i want to see shep "a few years after" with his <insert romance partner here> sitting on the beach, maybe watching his little (blue!!!) babys (or something like that).

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Yah sucks that can't help Tali build that house on Rannoch..... why did the Mass Relays have to blow up? Now everyone's stuck in Sol-system.

But what bugs me the most.... I had Garrus and James with me on the last run to the conduit, but when I blew the reapers up, somehow Garrus had magically been teleported/airlifted and joined the crew on the Normandy, which also fled (why?).

Some serious story flaws here, not to mention that the endings weren't happy, sad or epic, just bad. I'm smelling Halo 3 legendary ending here. Just not as good.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

I can Hackett wrote...

Stormcroft wrote...

Im seriously hoping that they have plans to add new DLC that gives us a better ending.



Bioware is very responsive to feedback so my guess is they will, just like deception and lets not forget EA`s well known reputation to take advantage of our love for this franchise they probably made the ending vague to make us want to buy more dlc........sadly Ill be one of those ppl buying it


also after credits r done rolling it says there will be dlc to expand your game so there you go


They said there would be no post game dlc, only pre ending dlc. 


You honestly think they won't go back on that to squeeze some extra money out of pissed off fans for a better ending?

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

I can Hackett wrote...

Stormcroft wrote...

Im seriously hoping that they have plans to add new DLC that gives us a better ending.



Bioware is very responsive to feedback so my guess is they will, just like deception and lets not forget EA`s well known reputation to take advantage of our love for this franchise they probably made the ending vague to make us want to buy more dlc........sadly Ill be one of those ppl buying it


also after credits r done rolling it says there will be dlc to expand your game so there you go



I hope they do

people complained about how rushed the ending int he witcher 2 was and you know what cd project red did? made a free expansion thats coming out in april that adds 5 hours into the game amongst other things

Beth also redid the ending to fallout 3 with a dlc after people hated it


Exactly.  Chapter 3 of TW2 did seem very abbreviated compared to the rest, and now next month CDPR is giving out more content for it for free.  There is an example of changing content based on what the fans want, and it being free is a huge bonus.

Fallout 3's choice of changing things via paid DLC is also acceptable to me.  I fully acknowledge that making something new costs money, especially if you didn't think you'd be doing it because you're game was over.  So, I'd be willing to throw some money their way to offset that.  I think it says a lot when people literally say that they will give you money on top of what they already paid just to fix something.

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I really hope Bioware will listen to us. If they don't, I wont be buying their games anymore.