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[RiouHotaru]

 Honestly, I was upset at first, like like everyone else was.

I saw/heard the leaks, and the endings made no sense in mind.  But then, as I sat here, playing the game, little pieces started to come together in my mind.  Things about the setting, the lore, the universe.  Things coming together that made me realize the "best" ending wasn't quite so bad after all.

And then I finally got the ending and I could nod my head and confidentally say: "The story is over."

I think you guys honestly want too much spelled out for you.  I understand wanting to be told specific details, wanting to know exactly what takes place and why.  But there's a upside to vague hints and details.  They allow you to draw your own conclusions.  And before anyone takes that statement and claims "But the ending is supposed to be definitive!"  I'll point out that it is.  Shepard stopped the Reapers, and the galactic community will live.

What happens to Shepard?  That's up to YOU.

No reason Bioware has to spell it out for you.

Modifié par RiouHotaru, 08 mars 2012 - 11:19 .

[Spaceguy5]

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

[KillSlash45]

That will eventually devolve into an ending complaint thread.

Edit: lol too late. Poster above me got to it already

Modifié par KillSlash45, 08 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[KillSlash45]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

Yes I liked them

[Unender]

I liked them.

[Pentinor]

KillSlash45 wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

Yes I liked them

troll detected off the starboard bow!

On a serious note...I didnt like the endings, but an epilogue would have gone a looooooooooooong way to changing my opinion.

[Paparob]

They are alright, they could have been done better so I guess you can say I like them so much as I'm fine with them and it hasn't ruined the whole franchise for me. 

Edit: Yeah what the above poster said, DLC epilogue would make the endings a lot better.

Modifié par Paparob, 08 mars 2012 - 11:22 .

[KillSlash45]

Pentinor wrote...

KillSlash45 wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

Yes I liked them

troll detected off the starboard bow!

On a serious note...I didnt like the endings, but an epilogue would have gone a looooooooooooong way to changing my opinion.

Wow, I like the endings so I'm a troll. You comment was much more trolly than mine btw.

[RiouHotaru]

Another reason for the vagueness of the ending details:

Leaves the franchise open for future games that allow for any of the given endings to be canon for the player.

[RaptorZefier]

KillSlash45 wrote...

Pentinor wrote...

KillSlash45 wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

Yes I liked them

troll detected off the starboard bow!

On a serious note...I didnt like the endings, but an epilogue would have gone a looooooooooooong way to changing my opinion.

Wow, I like the endings so I'm a troll. You comment was much more trolly than mine btw.

I think he was kidding about that, hence "On a serious note".

[Pentinor]

KillSlash45 wrote...

Pentinor wrote...

KillSlash45 wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Wait, there's people that liked them?!

Yes I liked them

troll detected off the starboard bow!

On a serious note...I didnt like the endings, but an epilogue would have gone a looooooooooooong way to changing my opinion.

Wow, I like the endings so I'm a troll. You comment was much more trolly than mine btw.

I bolded the important part...Sarcasm is hard to get accross thru text  

[Srefanius]

Hm, I'm ok with the endings in some way, they are good written. The problem is, that they are emotional depressing, the game did a job in making me sad and I'm not sure if thats the right thing. Its ok to have these endings as a choice but I would love a happy end after all the time...

[Bka27]

How can I make up the rest of the story after seeing Garrus and EDI step off the Normandy despite having Garrus in my squad and choosing to destroy synthetics. The only way I see this making sense is that Garrus grabbed a thorax missle flew with it to the shuttle, then rode the shuttle back to the Normandy at which point Garrus, EDI, and Joker got sucked into an alternate dimension which remains unaffected from the crucible.

[Hennex]

I liked my ending. I admit, I would've liked more things "spelled out" for me, but now I have even more questions for the next ME games. I also like the fact the endings are not what I expected. They weren't predictable, they weren't generic, and they refreshing. Shepard's story is complete.

I know a lot of people are going to be pissed, but we got what Bioware promised, and I am satisfied.

[RiouHotaru]

Bka27 wrote...

How can I make up the rest of the story after seeing Garrus and EDI step off the Normandy despite having Garrus in my squad and choosing to destroy synthetics. The only way I see this making sense is that Garrus grabbed a thorax missle flew with it to the shuttle, then rode the shuttle back to the Normandy at which point Garrus, EDI, and Joker got sucked into an alternate dimension which remains unaffected from the crucible.

Well, for starters, obviously "Destroying synthetics" seems to only apply to the Reapers.  As for how Garrus got back on-board, what's the say they didn't make it back and get picked up?

[Unender]

"is that really what happened" -- "we don't know so much time has passed"

^ this
even if you get the bad ending with everything dying all over that same thing is said at the end of the credits (after every ending)

this either was made to show that Shepard's story is what you made it (probably the most likely tbh)
OR (my opinion incoming) It could mean that the ending we saw isn't exactly what happened. maybe Shepard's end was romanticized by the new inhabitants of the galaxy. something else could have rendered the Mass Relays nonfunctional. After the Reapers left/died they could have somehow
just stopped working (maybe the reapers did something to make them work for another 50 years or something) thus causing the people of the "new galaxy" to be stuck on their planets. and legends always change via word of mouth, thus a romanticized Shepard gets to be the one who made them stop working.

just two cents.

i however loved the endings as they were. the synthesis more than the rest though. lol

[Iam2ugly]

ok I get that that you people are happy with the way it is. But... your still in minority here
And for the sake of us, why there was no happier ending is beyond me... Why? It would not kill bioware to give that to us. But, no...

[Unender]

above edit isn't working for me. meant 50k years not 50 years. lol

[RaduM]

RiouHotaru wrote...

 Honestly, I was upset at first, like like everyone else was.

I saw/heard the leaks, and the endings made no sense in mind.  But then, as I sat here, playing the game, little pieces started to come together in my mind.  Things about the setting, the lore, the universe.  Things coming together that made me realize the "best" ending wasn't quite so bad after all.

And then I finally got the ending and I could nod my head and confidentally say: "The story is over."

I think you guys honestly want too much spelled out for you.  I understand wanting to be told specific details, wanting to know exactly what takes place and why.  But there's a upside to vague hints and details.  They allow you to draw your own conclusions.  And before anyone takes that statement and claims "But the ending is supposed to be definitive!"  I'll point out that it is.  Shepard stopped the Reapers, and the galactic community will live.

What happens to Shepard?  That's up to YOU.

No reason Bioware has to spell it out for you.

Well yeah, but absent a fully-fleshed Epilogue a la Dragon Age Origins or New Vegas, it just feels... incomplete.

I mean, hell, by that reasoning ( i . e. "imagine it yourself, b**ch!" ), why have endings, or epilogues at all?

Hell, why have fully-fleshed stories. Just "Your're Commander Shepard. Now write your own story!". Ehhh... an epilogue would be warranted here, even if they kept the ending intact, which is well.... quite dark.

[RiouHotaru]

RaduM wrote...

Well yeah, but absent a fully-fleshed Epilogue a la Dragon Age Origins or New Vegas, it just feels... incomplete.

I mean, hell, by that reasoning ( i . e. "imagine it yourself, b**ch!" ), why have endings, or epilogues at all?

Hell, why have fully-fleshed stories. Just "Your're Commander Shepard. Now write your own story!". Ehhh... an epilogue would be warranted here, even if they kept the ending intact, which is well.... quite dark.

I understand your point, the difference between Dragon Age/New Vegas and Mass Effect is the protagonist.  Shepard is far more closely connected to the player than the Grey Warden or the Courier (IMO, of course).  And the entire premise of the franchise has been "This is your story"

So they give the players an ending with the opportunity to build off of it.  Hell, all three endings allow for that.

[Kanon777]

I liked them

[crimzontearz]

RiouHotaru wrote... What happens to Shepard?  That's up to YOU. No reason Bioware has to spell it out for you.

that's called headcanon.....and it is just one step removed from delusion

[RiouHotaru]

No, it's not.

Shepard succeeded at his/her driving goal: Stopping the Reapers

What happened after that (assuming you got the ending where Shepard lives!) doesn't need to be spelled out.

[Militarized]

RiouHotaru wrote...

No, it's not.

Shepard succeeded at his/her driving goal: Stopping the Reapers

What happened after that (assuming you got the ending where Shepard lives!) doesn't need to be spelled out.

Yes I'm afraid it does, the whole point of the series was that your choices mattered... which means you need to show at the end HOW YOUR CHOICES MATTERED *facepalm*. The endings we got make the entirety of ME1 and ME2 null/void, useless and their replayability also null and void because NONE OF IT MATTERS. Pretending to be deep and philosophical does not make it so. They should have stayed in "reality" and based what happened off of what you did/war assessets.