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The Crucible is plainly a disaster for ME story


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Why would prothean (and any other species in previous cycles) build such a stupid weapon? The most ridicular thing is that all the people are dedicated to build it but no one except the Illusive man knows how it works? For me it is totally insane and unacceptable. I can not believe that Bioware did not notice how  illogical  these stories are! The whole story surrounds this ridiculous thing and killed the decent ME world.

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I was cool with the Crucible til the end. I felt like it was supposed to be something besides actual fighting in the war that all the races could unite under and assist. But in the end, it really made no sense. I was ultimately left confused and disappointed.

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lasertank wrote...

Why would prothean (and any other species in previous cycles) build such a stupid weapon? The most ridicular thing is that all the people are dedicated to build it but no one except the Illusive man knows how it works? For me it is totally insane and unacceptable. I can not believe that Bioware did not notice how  illogical  these stories are! The whole story surrounds this ridiculous thing and killed the decent ME world.


Thats a good point, maybe I'm missing something but shouldn't the Prothean VI or whatever it was have shed more light on the subject? I would have liked to know the catalyst was a entity that would make me mad rather then an object.

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The crucible and main idea behind all of the endings was absurd. Some big bad AI from the past knows theres going to be an AI war, so to prevent it he starts an AI war. Friggin brilliant.
Dont warn the organics, dont kill the new AIs, kill everyone.

Are all the writers taking copious quantities of acid?

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Sigh. One more person who can't grasp the story and blames the writers taking drugs. :/

That's the internet

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KillSlash45 wrote...

Sigh. One more person who can't grasp the story and blames the writers taking drugs. :/

That's the internet


You didn't answer my question. Why would EVERYONE in the universe build something they don't fully understand? Especially after the event of ME1, everyone should've known that the reaper leave those tech legacy to set up a trap. 

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It's not that we can't grasp the story, it's just an ending NO ONE wanted. Out of all the posts on here the majority are disgusted by the end, then there are those who are indifferent, and I've only seen a few who liked it. Why do that to your fans? Didn't they have testers, how could they of liked it?

Modifié par theenigma77, 08 mars 2012 - 11:40 .


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Bka27

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lasertank wrote...

KillSlash45 wrote...

Sigh. One more person who can't grasp the story and blames the writers taking drugs. :/

That's the internet


You didn't answer my question. Why would EVERYONE in the universe build something they don't fully understand? Especially after the event of ME1, everyone should've known that the reaper leave those tech legacy to set up a trap. 


    If you think of it in the case of humanity then it makes more sense, everyone was building it because they thought it was based off the Protheans who were wiped out by the Reapers. Later when it's revealed to be the work of many different races It was probably the same scenario, the Protheans were building off a design that was from their "Protheans" (Most technological advanced race) at the time and so on and so forth.

    Your point of Reaper tech came across my mind too as I was playing, I felt they really just committed gung ho without any real thought into what the crucible could truly be considering the events regarding the Citadel.

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theenigma77 wrote...

It's not that we can't grasp the story, it's just an ending NO ONE wanted. Out of all the posts on here the majority are disgusted by the end, then there are those who are indifferent, and I've only seen a few who liked it. Why do that to your fans? Didn't they have testers, how could they of liked it?


The purpose of beta testing is to ensure the product passes quality test evaluation. The testers rarely have a subjective creative opinion, only technical.

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I was half expecting the point of the crucible to be to help facilitate the unity of all species to defeat the reapers.

As in, all the previous civilizations fell because they could never put aside their racial differences and fight as one.

I mean...as corny as that is...I'd take it over this...BS.

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Actually, the way I understood it, the Crucible is actually Reaper-made, as is the Catalyst, the Reaper's soul.

The Crucible was something like "get this far, organic, then join us so we can continue the cycle new and improved with your knowledge" or ... something.

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Bka27 wrote...

  ..... everyone was building it because they thought it was based off the Protheans who were wiped out by the Reapers. Later when it's revealed to be the work of many different races It was probably the same scenario, the Protheans were building off a design that was from their "Protheans" (Most technological advanced race) at the time and so on and so forth.


It is impossible for a scientist to build something which he or she does not understand. Even if the collateral effect can not be predicted, the direct result should be 
always clear. Even if Oppenheimer does not know the power of an atomic bomb, he at least knows that the bomb will explode and kill lives when he builds it. The story is still seriously flawed.

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KillSlash45 wrote...

Sigh. One more person who can't grasp the story and blames the writers taking drugs. :/

That's the internet


The singularity thing is dumb, I grasp it, it is just contrived and really horribly done and not how to end a story. Its like they wanted to pretend to be "deep thinkers" and threw the entire concept of the game out the window and then took a big steaming dump on it. 

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Yeah, apparently all these cycles and all the help you got had been improving the Crucible. How the hell do you improve something when you don't understand what it does? It would be like giving a caveman the schematics to a car, then telling him to build and improve it without explaining what it is supposed to do or how.

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I could live with them not knowing what the crucible does as a plot hole, hell I could have lived with it just blowing EVERYTHING to hell... but to become some mystic AI with 3 contrived altruistic choices where everything you did before becomes null and void, a moot footnote for a bad stab at being "deep" is just maddening beyond expression.

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theenigma77 wrote...

Didn't they have testers, how could they of liked it?


"Love it! Great!" - Bioware employee

"I don't know. I don't think this will fly." - Former Bioware employee. 

That's how.

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Bioware claimed there would be no "magic Reaper button" and that this would be a tough, emotional war story game.

LOL, I guess they decided to make the reaper button after all.

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NovinhaShepard wrote...

Bioware claimed there would be no "magic Reaper button" and that this would be a tough, emotional war story game.

LOL, I guess they decided to make the reaper button after all.


I am disappoint. :?