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So uh, if you destroy all the Mass Relays aren't you dooming the combined fleet to starvation?


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Lemonwizard

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 There's literally like, the entire military of the galaxy stuck in this one system now. Earth has no functioning infrastructure.



You know, to produce food.




And even if it did all the Turians would starve anyway.

And I like turians.





This is a problem.

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I'm afraid that this is but one of several hundred important questions which we will have to deal with NEVER being answered. Thanks a ****ing lot, Bioware, you lazy pricks.

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Bka27

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From what I've read FTL travel is still possible just not as in terms of intergalactic trade. Another interesting point to add that I read somewhere was that someone mentioned in ME2 when one of the relays blew up it also blew up any planets in the system.

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Lemonwizard

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The general idea of the ending could have worked if they'd made it way longer and more fleshed out, I think.

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RaduM

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Yes, the idea of Shepard's sacrifice is appropriate to the trilogy, but it all felt rushed and convoluted at the same time with that Ghost Kid.

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Lemonwizard

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Well not just that, but the whole "Oh hey here's the guy who invented reapers but uh we have to wrap it up in the next 3 minutes so we won't explain at all who he is or where he came from" bit really irked me.

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Steptroll wrote...

I'm afraid that this is but one of several hundred important questions which we will have to deal with NEVER being answered. Thanks a ****ing lot, Bioware, you lazy pricks.


Indeed.

Instead we get glow in the dark god-kid and bitter pills 1, 2, or 3 to swallow.

Can't wait to hear the justifications behind the ending and the explanations of the loopholes.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

Well not just that, but the whole "Oh hey here's the guy who invented reapers but uh we have to wrap it up in the next 3 minutes so we won't explain at all who he is or where he came from" bit really irked me.


don't it just

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Rulycar

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Shoulda bought more fish ...

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Phydeaux314

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Well, remember that the Quarian liveships were armed and put in with the armada. If you go through the videos, you can actually see them arriving.

But yeah. It really feels like everything after taking that beam to the face was done in about two days in a huge bloody rush.

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MandatoryDenial1

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I think its even worse than that if you choose the destruction ending.  Not only do you kill the reapers, but every ship in the fleet was traveling towards earth when the technology was destroyed.  That of course means they would be floating towards earth, crashing on earth, and would not have life support, maneuverability, and would probably freeze to death and then if they managed to survive that they would burn up on reentry.

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Phydeaux314

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I thought the red ending only nuked the super advanced tech, specifically, the reapers and reaper-based stuff.

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Dunmer of Redoran

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In the old script it mentioned a lot of "higher" tech getting nuked, but AFAIK that is gone and it applies almost exclusively to the Mass Relays.

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Phydeaux314 wrote...

Well, remember that the Quarian liveships were armed and put in with the armada. If you go through the videos, you can actually see them arriving.

But yeah. It really feels like everything after taking that beam to the face was done in about two days in a huge bloody rush.


Not good enough answer for me since the Quarians are no more in my universe. Now, I choose the synthesis ending, which has all living things (organics and synthetics) rewritten, so I guess the Turians are compatible now with the food on Earth. 

Modifié par Arlionis, 08 mars 2012 - 12:49 .


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Phydeaux314

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Ah, that would throw a wrench in things.

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AuraofMana

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Someone on Reddit mentioned that he's just going to accept that Shepard actually died from being beamed by Harbringer and everything after that is just a dream sequence where he dreamed of space magic god kid.

Seems more plausible.

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Phydeaux314

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That's honestly what I'm starting to think here, too, Aura.

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shnellegaming

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I'm not worried about the relays.  This is correcting things so the galaxy is not dependent on Reaper Tech.  It will evolve new Tech to get set back up.  This will be slow and painful but the future is theirs.  Earth isn't destroyed as the shockwave certainly didn't destroy the Normandy or the planet they landed on.

What I'm concerned about is the Citadel blowing up.  That large a structure blowing up and raining down on Earth could cause Nuclear Winter.  I'd rather that not happen on my BEST playthrough.

Though I never thought about the food thing.  Hopefully for the Blue ending itt means the Relays Self Repair and they will be fine and the Green ending changes everyone's Biology so food isn't a problem.

Modifié par shnellegaming, 08 mars 2012 - 01:09 .


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RiouHotaru

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Not really? If you compare the Local Cluster to Palaven on the map, it's far, but not that far.

Plus what's to say you can't grow dextro-appropriate plants, etc. We have dextro-amino animals and what not already existing RIGHT NOW, in reality.

It's not too difficult to think that there wouldn't be a way to feed the fleet.

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Lurka

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Should of ended with a fight against harbinger where shepard is just shooting with that pistol, then the Normandy comes in and attacks him along with all your old/current crew. (Think saving private Ryan where he's shooting the tank with a pistol and then it blows up)

Then you go to the Citadel, do all that stuff with the illusive man and fire the weapon which disables the reapers so the fleets can destroy them while Shepard and Anderson sit there watching and die together.

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WizenSlinky0

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Quarian live ships should be sufficient to feed the (reduced) Quarian population and the (reduced) turian population.

It's all the others I would be concerned about. Farmland and supplies must be devastated on earth.

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None of that matters.

If Mass Effect 2 : Arrival is accurate, destroying the Sol Relay destroys Earth regardless, along with everything in the system.

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Lemonwizard

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SomeBug wrote...

None of that matters.

If Mass Effect 2 : Arrival is accurate, destroying the Sol Relay destroys Earth regardless, along with everything in the system.



Destroying the relays by means of violent impact causes their massive power cores to detonate, but it's entirely possible that this root dismantling signal does not cause an explosion on nearly so violent a scale.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

SomeBug wrote...

None of that matters.

If Mass Effect 2 : Arrival is accurate, destroying the Sol Relay destroys Earth regardless, along with everything in the system.



Destroying the relays by means of violent impact causes their massive power cores to detonate, but it's entirely possible that this root dismantling signal does not cause an explosion on nearly so violent a scale.


The sol relay blowing up looked like it was gonna be a big explosion on my playthrough. Also it wasnt just the sol relay that got blown up but the whole network, which according to arrival means an awful lot of blown up star systems.

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No you aren't, nobody thinks in terms of logistics anymore, they have the potential to FTL to the nearest planet.

The energy for the explosions in Arrival only occurred because the relay was activated and so it overloaded. The relays stop moving if you watch it, and then they just self destruct essentially.