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[upsettingshorts]

 Simple thread has simple premise:

How many effective war assets - after war readiness, which for me is at 50% because I don't do multiplayer - did you have when you finished the game, and were you able to get your choice of ending without penalty?

I am sitting at around ~3500 effective war assets (from a base of ~7000) before the point of no return in the main story, which I am fairly reliably informed won't be enough to prevent Shepard's ultimate demise, even in endings where it is possible he/she can survive.

Basically, I want to know if the promise that all endings would be available through single-player means only offered by BioWare pre-release has been fulfilled, and if so, at what war score is this possible.

Bearbeitet von Upsettingshorts, 08 März 2012 - 01:28 .

[M8DMAN]

I don't really think there is a "perfect" ending. I had the same number of war assets as you and I didn't get squat. 

Something tells me even if I tried to max out my war assets I'd probably still get the same 3 endings.

Bearbeitet von M8DMAN, 08 März 2012 - 01:35 .

[upsettingshorts]

I'm not talking about hidden or secret endings.

It's a game mechanic question.

Basically, I want to know at what Effective War Assets are we no longer penalized in any way for not having the optimal amount.  What is the final cut-off?

I believe I've heard that amount is 4000*, which would mean 8000 total war assets if you have played zero multiplayer.  This is potentially a problem because BioWare has stated you would not be penalized for not participating in multiplayer, and I'm genuinely wondering where I missed 1000 more war assets in my playthrough.

* This amount by the time you must attack Cerberus' base

Bearbeitet von Upsettingshorts, 08 März 2012 - 01:48 .

[Galadh]

I don't get it as well. I'm fairly certain I've done 100% of content and didn't even reach 8k. Had to increase readiness by multi up to 70% and got 5k EMS. Devs are claiming it is possible to keep Shep alive on SP itself.

[upsettingshorts]

Indeed.

A simple, to-the-point summary of what score is considered optimal and if it is achievable through single player (with advice as to how if it is particularly challenging) from BioWare would be most welcome.  Not to mention, given their pre-release promises on the matter, something I'd demand.

Bearbeitet von Upsettingshorts, 08 März 2012 - 01:53 .

[humes spork]

There are an amazingly large amount of war assets to be gained through dialogue choices. Did you import (returning characters are a huge source of war assets, one way or another), return to the Citadel after each priority mission and do a walk/talk around, and explore Reaper territory?

My imported, (renegade) Shepard just finished the Citadel coup and she's sitting at almost 3,000 war assets and right around 2,400 EMS (since I have mussed around with multiplayer). Then again, she's a ME1 import, made a lot of paragon choices, left no one behind on the Collector base, and other stuff. Just having lots of surviving squaddies has been a huge source of war assets so far, 500-700 bare minimum between Jack (the bioitic squad), and Thane, Mordin and Kirrahe, Grunt and Wrex (lots of krogan/salarian assets there between those).

Bearbeitet von humes spork, 08 März 2012 - 02:39 .

[Taleroth]

I've surprised to hear everyone so low. Tuchanka put me over 3,000 with no multiplayer. I have a hard time believing I won't get 1,000+ in the remaining time.

[Militarized]

I had like 6k+ assessets with little to no multiplayer.

[kevlarcardhouse]

Taleroth wrote...

I've surprised to hear everyone so low. Tuchanka put me over 3,000 with no multiplayer. I have a hard time believing I won't get 1,000+ in the remaining time.

Yes, but the thread is talking about getting the "perfect ending", and you need 10,000 to get that.

[fern222]

kevlarcardhouse wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I've surprised to hear everyone so low. Tuchanka put me over 3,000 with no multiplayer. I have a hard time believing I won't get 1,000+ in the remaining time.

Yes, but the thread is talking about getting the "perfect ending", and you need 10,000 to get that.

In the strat guide that I bought it says you only need 5 k for anderson and shepard to survive in single player, then again this guide is a little bit messed up and at times it misses some important things so i really don't know if this is how you get the "perfect ending" or if you really need 10,000 points to get the "perfect ending".

[Taleroth]

kevlarcardhouse wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I've surprised to hear everyone so low. Tuchanka put me over 3,000 with no multiplayer. I have a hard time believing I won't get 1,000+ in the remaining time.

Yes, but the thread is talking about getting the "perfect ending", and you need 10,000 to get that.

You only need 4,000 EMS. 5,000 EMS if Anderson dies.

10,000 is the total value, not the EMS.

[Ananka]

I've also read that somewhere around 4000-5000 is needed to get the ending where Shepard lives. As far as I know, if you get a score higher than that that doesn't really make any difference.

A lot of war assets are gained by dialogue, where your dialogue choice will determin if you'll get a character as a war asset or not. So merely doing all quests will not give you a full war asset score, regarless if you're doing SP or MP.

I think it's pretty hard to gain war assets in SP, though. I've just played the Udina coup and am still pretty low in war score with everything being 50%. But think of it as a bonus to the MP players rather than a handicap for the SP players.

[RazorrX]

Wow I thought I was pretty complete in my playthrough and just finished raiding Cerberus and am still below 4K EMS (have like 3600 EMS). Really odd as I have both quarian and Geth, Rachni and Grunt, etc. I did every side quest I could find on the Citadel too.

Probably will have to do some Mulitplayer or get the Itunes ap to have the best finish I guess.

[mulder1199]

i think the 'perfect ending' is going to disappoint you...

[upsettingshorts]

mulder1199 wrote...

i think the 'perfect ending' is going to disappoint you...

Irrelevent.  Also this isn't really the thread for discussing the story, only the mechanics behind the ending.

And yeah, I'm a ME1->ME2->ME3 import completionist who has gotten, well, a lot "right" in some regards and I'm still not going to get the points in single player, I don't think.

Hence this thread.  I wouldn't be so comfortable demanding answers on the subject if promises weren't made, publicly, on repeated occasions.  

Bearbeitet von Upsettingshorts, 08 März 2012 - 05:43 .

[kuroiXiru]

I'm in the same boat. Shep imported from ME1-ME2, finished all side quests save for the two bugged ones, and I'm about to raid the Cerberus base with ~3700 EMS. Not sure what to do.

[TudorWolf]

Yeah, same as above for me. Did an import (albeit an imperfect renegade one, and I missed some quests that got locked out due to the Cerberus coup), but I ended up with about 3800 assets... Okay, not terrible and their were more available points, but no way was there another 1200, which is supposed to be achievable, right?

[MrIllusion]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

* This amount by the time you must attack Cerberus' base

I could kiss you. I'm freaking out about not being able to trigger any other ending despite going through multiplayer.

But this caveat makes a lot of sense, and it totally slipped my mind.

[AmyBA]

Yea, I am in the same boat. I have around 3800 war assets. I've scanned EVERY system and gotten all those assets. I have been to the citadel multiple times and have done all those quests, even the ambient conversation quests, I've done many conversations over and over again, reloading making sure to pick the right options to get all the war assets I can from them. I have turian, krogan, salarian, quarian AND geth. I can't see where I would have missed any. I have nothing else to collect and am at the point of no return, no way I am going to get over 4000 without MP.

Bearbeitet von AmyBA, 08 März 2012 - 06:56 .

[Lady Jess]

I'm working at EMS at 2500ish and TMS at 5ki. I still have the Priority:asari quests and some side missions.

What IS the point of no return? I've heard there are 3 "acts" but they don't seem that well defined. So right now I'm basically doing everything BUT "Priority" labels so I don't hit the next act and lock myself out, again.

Like Shorts, I'm not into MP at all. I just don't have time for it.

[AmyBA]

Lady Jess wrote...

I'm working at EMS at 2500ish and TMS at 5ki. I still have the Priority:asari quests and some side missions.

What IS the point of no return? I've heard there are 3 "acts" but they don't seem that well defined. So right now I'm basically doing everything BUT "Priority" labels so I don't hit the next act and lock myself out, again.

Like Shorts, I'm not into MP at all. I just don't have time for it.

 

Hackett will tell you when you are there, hell say something along the lines of "When you go to this place there is no turning back."

Bearbeitet von AmyBA, 08 März 2012 - 07:13 .

[Bluumberry]

How do you guys get so few assets? I missed a lot of side quests due to timing and hus the Citadel being out of comission and due to bugs as well, yet when I started my mission I had about 6,5k.

[PerfectLife]

I had so many war assets by the end of the game, even at 50% I had more than needed for a full bar. I guess I just don't suck at video games like most people do.

[upsettingshorts]

Bluumberry wrote...

How do you guys get so few assets? I missed a lot of side quests due to timing and hus the Citadel being out of comission and due to bugs as well, yet when I started my mission I had about 6,5k.

My total war assets are over 7000.  Galactic readiness is 50% because that's what you're at if you never play multiplayer.

That means my effective war assets are over 3500.  So... look at yours again.

PerfectLife wrote...

I had so many war assets by the end of the game, even at 50% I had more than needed for a full bar. I guess I just don't suck at video games like most people do.

My bar is full, however I know a few people who had the same or similar amounts and still failed to see the "Shepard-Lives teaser", for example.

Bearbeitet von Upsettingshorts, 08 März 2012 - 07:17 .

[AmyBA]

Bluumberry wrote...

How do you guys get so few assets? I missed a lot of side quests due to timing and hus the Citadel being out of comission and due to bugs as well, yet when I started my mission I had about 6,5k.

Are those your total, or effective assets?

My TOTAL military assets is over 7500, my EFFECTIVE military assets are only 3800. And I am pretty sure you can't have more than 10000 total assets.

PerfectLife wrote...

I had so many war assets by the end of the game, even at 50% I had more than needed for a full bar. I guess I just don't suck at video games like most people do.

 

My bar is 100% full as well, and it was even before I got to 3800 war assets. But you still can't get the Shepard alive ending unless you have over 4000 war assets, bar being full doesn't matter.

Bearbeitet von AmyBA, 08 März 2012 - 07:18 .