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Pani Mauser

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I'm not sure, but maybe NG+ gives you additional war assets or increases your Galactic readiness above 50%?And thus it is technically possible to hit max lvl without multiplayer, you just have to play the game twice.

Not sure because I don't like that ending where Shepard can survive(to me the only good thing about it is that Shepard survives and that's all) and I never aimed for it, so instead of NG+ I imported another Shepard. But the theory seems plausible to me. Especially when guide specifically mentions that NG+ has the 'secret ending'.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 09 mars 2012 - 05:55 .


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RiouHotaru

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I still suspect that it's possible. I've had friends who are 100 or less points short of 4k without touching multiplayer. I believe that there are likely things we're missing, certain modifiers or what not as well.

Remember how it was almost a month before the 'Hold the Line' segment of ME2 was figured out? And during that time we believed Mordin's "death" was some kind of random bug? I think we're missing something here.

...Unless Synthesis is the "best" ending and Shepard surviving Destroy is the NG+ secret (since I believe your assets carry over to NG+)

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I have read a report that "ship models" and fish are considered war assets in a New Game+. This seems unlikely to me, though I am wondering if anyone else is in a position to quickly test such a claim.

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PerfectLife wrote...

As long as you picked the Synthesis ending you got the best ending.

That's all there is to it. Sad to see so many people clinging onto ME once its over.


That's not the best ending and for the record none of them are.

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for what it's worth, I enjoy the MP, I did tuchanka, Udina's coup, quarian vs geth (missed a required mission for peace) ardat yakshi quest, and several others. I have over 8340 assets at 100%. I don't know what I still need before the cerberus base assault, but I figure I'll have about 9k when I get there since I don't even have thessia done yet.

Modifié par KeenBlade, 09 mars 2012 - 06:00 .


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RiouHotaru wrote...

...Unless Synthesis is the "best" ending and Shepard surviving Destroy is the NG+ secret (since I believe your assets carry over to NG+)


Now there's an interesting theory. I may need to play NG+ at least until I can access my asset scores. If my assets do indeed carry over...I might just have to give it another go. What's another thirty hours? :pinched:

Modifié par chambers, 09 mars 2012 - 06:08 .


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CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

mcintyre0591 wrote...

I was at 6500, but because I did not play online my score is cut in half at 3250. The 2 best endings require 4000 and 5000. I do not see how it is possible to get 10,000 so I can get 5000 for the best ending. As far as I can tell, multiplayer is required.

No one seems to be able to get the best ending without MP. :/

Please tell me you're not shocked by this? Even with Bioware saying otherwise? I'm certainly not.


Shocked? No. I can't even say I'm unhappy as my galactic readiness is at 75% and will be 100% by the time I finish the single player campaign.

If it's true, I think it's a poor design decision on BioWare's part and they should have been upfront about it. Of course, I am still holding out on 8,000 war assets being available in the game.

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I'd say Synthesis is the least crappy of three crappy endings. :)

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Maria Caliban wrote...

If it's true, I think it's a poor design decision on BioWare's part and they should have been upfront about it. Of course, I am still holding out on 8,000 war assets being available in the game.


There aren't.

As the poster who provided some research pointed out - and I confirmed checking the link - there may be a couple hundred points to spare here and there based on imports (I personally missed out on -210 from ME1-2, but overall had a net gain all things considered) and I think I missed 2-3 sidequests, but the highest EMS total I've heard reported without any multiplayer at all is 3900.

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Yea I've been very thorough with the exception of a bunch of stupid fetch side quests I didn't do. I'm only at 2,700 EMS and like 4,400 total military forces. So basically if I try to do final mission anytime soon... reapers will defeat me? I'm at the point where I know where Illusive man is and need to go kill him and Lang. Trying to do all lame fetch quests I can.


IT is posilble to get a max thru single player but you need all the races at full strength, Krogan, Turian, Salarain ( if you choose to give the genophage cure then you need Thane alive because the saves the salarian counciler) rachni also i did all the missions that had all my previous squad mates from ME2.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

If it's true, I think it's a poor design decision on BioWare's part and they should have been upfront about it. Of course, I am still holding out on 8,000 war assets being available in the game.


There aren't.

As the poster who provided some research pointed out - and I confirmed checking the link - there may be a couple hundred points to spare here and there based on imports (I personally missed out on -210 from ME1-2, but overall had a net gain all things considered) and I think I missed 2-3 sidequests, but the highest EMS total I've heard reported without any multiplayer at all is 3900.


Which means Shepard living is possibly the NG+ ending?  But then the Prima guide mentions the NG+ ending independently of the EMS listing.  Hm.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

If it's true, I think it's a poor design decision on BioWare's part and they should have been upfront about it. Of course, I am still holding out on 8,000 war assets being available in the game.


There aren't.

As the poster who provided some research pointed out - and I confirmed checking the link - there may be a couple hundred points to spare here and there based on imports (I personally missed out on -210 from ME1-2, but overall had a net gain all things considered) and I think I missed 2-3 sidequests, but the highest EMS total I've heard reported without any multiplayer at all is 3900.


KeenBlade just said above that he got 8340 TMS (so if he was at 50% that would have been at 4170).

KeenBlade, can you expand on how you did this?

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Alright, my curiosity is piqued. After I find some sustenance, I'm going to start a NG+ and find out about stuff like assets carrying over and fish and whatnot. I'll let you know what I find.

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THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THE SHEPARD LIVES WITHOUT PLAYING MP, there is just not enough war assets in SP to get the 4000+ needed before you go to earth. I have done a NG+ and NG++ to get the secret ending(there isn't one) and the most war asset you get is 7910 that is with all available asset you can get VS survive, krogan and salarian, geth and quarian, ME2 characters, dlc everything, just no way possible so there must be more DLCs down the road that we will have to buy to get this ending.

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What's the max amount of war assets you can get in one playthrough?

I mean, I pretty much did every side mission, scanned 100% for all systems and went through MP to get 100% readiness rating. Right before starting the Cerberus takedown mission, I had around 7000 ish, and this is with an ME2 import including From Ashes DLC. Apparently the max is 10000? o_O

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If NG+ merely became available because you had carried-over assets, then anyone who sank a reasonable amount of time into multi-player and was fairly thorough in rounding up War Assets would qualify for it as well. As a result, I'm skeptical that anything like that would be used to divide "secret" and "non-secret" endings.

Of course, I'm also skeptical that there's a secret ending at all, though I'm not entirely ruling it out.


Apparently the max is 10000?


You can get an essentially unlimited number of points by transferring MP characters when they reach level 20, and playing the iPad game.

Modifié par Eumerin, 09 mars 2012 - 08:13 .


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okay what is the secret ending that ign says it is by beating the game twice with the same shepard (importing me3 shepard) and i read somwhere you had to max out the ems to get it

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

If it's true, I think it's a poor design decision on BioWare's part and they should have been upfront about it. Of course, I am still holding out on 8,000 war assets being available in the game.


There aren't.

As the poster who provided some research pointed out - and I confirmed checking the link - there may be a couple hundred points to spare here and there based on imports (I personally missed out on -210 from ME1-2, but overall had a net gain all things considered) and I think I missed 2-3 sidequests, but the highest EMS total I've heard reported without any multiplayer at all is 3900.

Someone in the other thread said they had 4.1k EMS without MP. I asked for them to provide a screenshot or walkthrough, but the thread was locked.

But, yeah, I suspect you're right. I just hope you're wrong.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Someone in the other thread said they had 4.1k EMS without MP. I asked for them to provide a screenshot or walkthrough, but the thread was locked.

But, yeah, I suspect you're right. I just hope you're wrong.


Yeah, between BSN and gamefaqs, there have been a small handful of people (maybe three that I've seen?) who have claimed to get 4000+ EMS with no multiplayer.  Highest claim was around 4300.  Nobody ever provided any proof (so far).

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Okay, just got past the first Citadel visit on NG+. Levels, gear and money all carries over, but assets don't.

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Do armor upgrades and weapon upgrades count as war assets? Because I definitely only bought the ones for my relevant weapon. If those count, that could be where most people are missing out. Otherwise I'm sitting at just about 3500 with no multiplayer, and from looking through my war assets updates there are a few choices that I made poorly so it could be a bit higher.

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i had about 4,500 war points without MP before the final mission.

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TheLostGenius wrote...

i had about 4,500 war points without MP before the final mission.


EMS or total, and if it's EMS, provide screenshots.

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Yeah I have just under 7,000 going into thessia (3,500 without multiplayer) and I've done every mission I can. I don't think it's possible to get close to the 10,000 you need on single player alone.

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PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Yeah I have just under 7,000 going into thessia (3,500 without multiplayer) and I've done every mission I can. I don't think it's possible to get close to the 10,000 you need on single player alone.


I am close to that same number, I'll provide an image when I'm back on the normandy to back my claim.