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[Unato]

yep DLCs are there (Kasumi, Overlord Arrival LotSB, Bring Down the Sky).

I think it's interesting that if you didn't do say Arrival you're boned out of 50 points, add in Overlord and Kasumi you're practically lost 200 points which is a fair bit

[Kittstalkur]

Unato wrote...

yep DLCs are there (Kasumi, Overlord Arrival LotSB, Bring Down the Sky).

I think it's interesting that if you didn't do say Arrival you're boned out of 50 points, add in Overlord and Kasumi you're practically lost 200 points which is a fair bit

Hah. And even if you get all of the DLCs for the prior games you can't break 8k.

Welp.

Not like it matters. You literally get a tacked on cutscene that shows Shepard's chest and an N7 dogtag, there's a sharp inhale, and BLACK SCREEN.

[Unato]

I think breaking 8K is just possible (borderline) but it basically requires you be

a) completionist (from ME1 to 3)
pick choices you might personally not like (again from ME1 to 3)
c) suffer no bugs (some of the side quests in ME3 give XX points, a few of these and you've screwed yourself out of XXX points which isn't exactly helpful if you're just shy of 100 or 200 points)

dlcs will solve this overtime, in the mean time MP is the only answer

Modifié par Unato, 12 mars 2012 - 01:44 .

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

In my 1st play through I had 7000+ assets with 86% readiness , so that put me above 6000 EMS.
So I chose destroy, earth lived, Shepard lived. but Anderson did not...so I am confused on that part. My question is how does the reputation and renegade/paragon compute in all of that and what is the difference between reputation and your Par/ Ren score. I am assuming that as long as you talk to a bunch of people that raises your rep to the top of the bar regardless if you are half renegade or paragon.

Modifié par xIREDEEMEDIx, 12 mars 2012 - 02:13 .

[zer0netgain]

Wow....

1. "Best Ending" = one where you get that extra cut scene at the end where Shepard is still alive.

2. My play through was over 7,000 No MP. That means I didn't break 4,000. If 4,000-5,000 unlocks the special scene, you need to get at least 8,001 to do it.

3. I scanned EVERY system, and there were at least two where it showed Reaper icons but NOTHING showed up when I scanned. I even tried more than once. There was at least one non-Reaper system where scanning found stuff. ???

[zer0netgain]

Capeo wrote...

Wait. Isn't the green bar all that matters as far as endings?

I think it matters in the most rudimentary of ways.

Once you pass the "minimum" marker, you could do the Cerberus base mission to the end of the game.

With the bar full, you get the full 3 options for ending the game (including the "destroy" ending where only Reapers die, not everyone on earth).

However, having a full bar happens when you are still acquiring points, so it's not indicative of being eligible for the "best" ending.

[KefkaGestahl]

 I have a question.  If you do everything you can to help the krogan, but sabotage the genophage, how much support do you lose when Wrex finds out?  From what I saw on YouTube, it sounds like - in rage - he chases you down immediately before pulling his troops out.  If you kill him, and he gets replaced by wreave, do you lose any war assets aside from the ones that Wrex personally provided.  I believe that was 30.

[Capeo]

zer0netgain wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Wait. Isn't the green bar all that matters as far as endings?

I think it matters in the most rudimentary of ways.

Once you pass the "minimum" marker, you could do the Cerberus base mission to the end of the game.

With the bar full, you get the full 3 options for ending the game (including the "destroy" ending where only Reapers die, not everyone on earth).

However, having a full bar happens when you are still acquiring points, so it's not indicative of being eligible for the "best" ending.

Odd. I'm pretty positive I had a full bar and I still didn't get the synergy ending. 

[OMTING52601]

You need 3000 EMS(so 6000 War Assets) to get Synergy. That's possible, though you do still need to do most of the quests offered in game. I have all the DLC from the series, which did help me out, but stuff like conning Wrex and saving Mordin just aren't things I can do as a player - and the idea that I'd have to play an RPG to someone else's morality in order to achieve something I was told was 'difficult, but absolutely possible without playing MP', doesn't engender a lot of good will from me. IMO and YMMV.

[carnage4u]

fluffyburrito wrote...

I just asked the other guys in the ventrillo server and the majority of them also reached 4k EMS without multiplayer. One guy didn't but said he didn't do planet scanning.

I have talked to a good amount of people and been going to a lot of forums, but I havent met anyone that got 4k EMS without multiplayer. I jsut find it reallly heard to believe... Ive seen most people have 3k+.. some close to 3.5k. (all imported ME1 and ME2 characters) most of them did stuff like save geth/quarians and maximized their points.

[LTKerr]

I had 5300 EMS (needed some MP though), red option and no Shepard alive. WTF?

[OMTING52601]

You would have needed some MP to get that total, but, and I'm not sure about this, from what I've gathered their may be other things that affect whether Shep lives or dies, even if you manage to hit that 5K EMS(or 10K with MP).

[Tigerjunky]

humes spork wrote...

There are an amazingly large amount of war assets to be gained through dialogue choices. Did you import (returning characters are a huge source of war assets, one way or another), return to the Citadel after each priority mission and do a walk/talk around, and explore Reaper territory?

My imported, (renegade) Shepard just finished the Citadel coup and she's sitting at almost 3,000 war assets and right around 2,400 EMS (since I have mussed around with multiplayer). Then again, she's a ME1 import, made a lot of paragon choices, left no one behind on the Collector base, and other stuff. Just having lots of surviving squaddies has been a huge source of war assets so far, 500-700 bare minimum between Jack (the bioitic squad), and Thane, Mordin and Kirrahe, Grunt and Wrex (lots of krogan/salarian assets there between those).

I did the EXACT same thing you id and maxed out at around 3,500 EMS without mulitplayer... I literally did EVERYTHING I could think of.

[pprrff]

Without Multiplayer and with Paragon Import of ME1 and ME2, my EMS is less than 3800, I have no clue to how you can to 5000 with only Single player.

[2leggywillow]

LTKerr wrote...

I had 5300 EMS (needed some MP though), red option and no Shepard alive. WTF?

This happened to me too.  I went and did some MP to crank up my war assets and ended up with about 6900 EMS, chose Destroy, still no cutscene.  Glad to know I'm not the only one.  Maybe it's a bug?

[Kittstalkur]

2leggywillow wrote...

LTKerr wrote...

I had 5300 EMS (needed some MP though), red option and no Shepard alive. WTF?

This happened to me too.  I went and did some MP to crank up my war assets and ended up with about 6900 EMS, chose Destroy, still no cutscene.  Glad to know I'm not the only one.  Maybe it's a bug?

You mean the five seconds where the camera pans to Shepard's chest with the N7 dogtags showing, and Shepard inhales sharply?

[upsettingshorts]

That's the one.

[Priisus]

So it's official, you can't hit 8k of War Assets and 4k EMS without Multiplayer?

I've read multiple threads about this and it seems that this is the conclusion. If it is, then sadly it does mean we need to play MP to get the "Shepard lives" ending.

[Dark Specie]

Priisus wrote...

So it's official, you can't hit 8k of War Assets and 4k EMS without Multiplayer?

I've read multiple threads about this and it seems that this is the conclusion. If it is, then sadly it does mean we need to play MP to get the "Shepard lives" ending.

Sure seems that way. Bah. So much for the "You can get the best ending without multiplayyer!" promise. I'm a completetionist and played accordingly in all three games, even including all DLC, and I STILL don't get enough War Assets? WTF?

[Dark Specie]

(doublepost, my mistake )

Modifié par Dark Specie, 12 mars 2012 - 10:20 .

[upsettingshorts]

Yet I know of someone who had <4000 EMS and got the "Shepard lives" followup to Destroy. So I wouldn't be surprised if we're missing something here, or there' a bug at work. One or the other.

[KefkaGestahl]

Can somebody tell me what, exactly, the difference is between the reaper heart and brain? I'm going through the trilogy again in an attempt to maximize war assets - I think I figured out the first two games, up until the collector base. Keeping the brain gives you 10 more assets, but people say that it makes getting the best destroy ending much harder. From what I've read, however, breaking 4,000 EMS and then passing the speech checks with TIM gets you the best ending regardless of what you did with the collector base. Am I mistaken?

[DrowNoble]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

 Simple thread has simple premise:

How many effective war assets - after war readiness, which for me is at 50% because I don't do multiplayer - did you have when you finished the game, and were you able to get your choice of ending without penalty?

I am sitting at around ~3500 effective war assets (from a base of ~7000) before the point of no return in the main story, which I am fairly reliably informed won't be enough to prevent Shepard's ultimate demise, even in endings where it is possible he/she can survive.

Basically, I want to know if the promise that all endings would be available through single-player means only offered by BioWare pre-release has been fulfilled, and if so, at what war score is this possible.

Your war rating is meaningless.  Regardless of how high it is (mine was at 5200) you still get a bad ending that disregards any previous choices you've made up to that point.  It also creates more plot holes in 15 mins than I've ever seen in a game.

It's clear that Bioware wanted to end the trilogy on a very sour note and our choices be damned.

Modifié par DrowNoble, 12 mars 2012 - 10:25 .

[DrowNoble]

Dark Specie wrote...

Priisus wrote...

So it's official, you can't hit 8k of War Assets and 4k EMS without Multiplayer?

I've read multiple threads about this and it seems that this is the conclusion. If it is, then sadly it does mean we need to play MP to get the "Shepard lives" ending.

Sure seems that way. Bah. So much for the "You can get the best ending without multiplayyer!" promise. I'm a completetionist and played accordingly in all three games, even including all DLC, and I STILL don't get enough War Assets? WTF?

Well not only did Bioware lie about getting the best ending without mulitplayer, they also said that if we did everything and maximized what we could we'd get a "satisfying" end to the trilogy.

Well the End wasn't remotely satisfying in any way no matter how I look at it.  Guess they either lied about that too or have a warped sense of what is satisfying.

Modifié par DrowNoble, 12 mars 2012 - 10:31 .

[MageTarot]

KefkaGestahl wrote...

 I have a question.  If you do everything you can to help the krogan, but sabotage the genophage, how much support do you lose when Wrex finds out?  From what I saw on YouTube, it sounds like - in rage - he chases you down immediately before pulling his troops out.  If you kill him, and he gets replaced by wreave, do you lose any war assets aside from the ones that Wrex personally provided.  I believe that was 30.

This is from the strategy guide. Hope this helps:

"If you sabotaged the cure and Wrex is the leader, he will not know about  your treachery during this mission. However, he will find out later and confront you on the Citadel about it after you speak with the asari councilor and accept the "Priority: Thessia" mission. In that confrontation, you will be forced to kill Wrex. The krogan therefore will not support you in the end. If Wreav is the krogan leader, he will never find out you sabotaged the cure and will always think it was cured for real."


Even though it doesn't state it outright, it appears that if Wreav never finds out you get krogan support.