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[Draythe]

 When everybody complained about day one DLC Bioware assured everyone that it was content that was developed after the main game shipped. Now it looks like that is not the case. Every single file relating to the DLC crew mate is on the disc, meaning it was developed before the game shipped. Models, animations, voice clips, UI graphics, Scripts, everything. It looks like we've been lied to.

http://crystalprison...-developed.html 

Thoughts?

Modifié par Draythe, 08 mars 2012 - 02:24 .

[SuddenlyPhoenix]

looking forward to see what bioware say

[Steptroll]

You hear that?

It's the sound of betrayal.

Just [disappointed in] you, Bioware. I am never paying for another one of your games ever again.

[no swearing, please]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 08 mars 2012 - 05:27 .

[Jynthor]

Why am I not surprised?

[AkiKishi]

Anyone in the least bit suprised by this?

[Mr_Dots]

Somebody, somewhere is going to defend this on behalf of EA and Bioware- it's not going to be me.

[AkiKishi]

Mr_Dots wrote...

Somebody, somewhere is going to defend this on behalf of EA and Bioware- it's not going to be me.

Reading some of the reactions of certain people on the From Ashes thread is going to be more entertaining than the game. End will probably be as craptastic though.

[Descedent]

two words......

Electronic Arts

[XxCrashdownxX]

All this has happened before..all this will happen again.

[StonedVolus]

I'm not blaming Bioware. I'm blaming Electronic Arts.

Also, were the Kasumi/Zaeed files in Mass Effect 2 only partially complete or was it the whole squadmate?

[exskeeny]

I'm not going to defend Bioware, I just don't care.

[veramis]

The DLC is also by far the most fleshed out part of the game. The animations, cinematics, and DLC dialogues are in another league compared to the rest of the game.

[YourFunnyUncle]

If you paid attention to what Bioware actually said it's been known for a long time that the character and dialogue to blend it seamlessly into the main game was developed at the same time as the main game. The DLC level on Eden Prime is what was developed after the main game was finished.

Modifié par YourFunnyUncle, 08 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[AkiKishi]

Descedent wrote...

two words......

Electronic Arts

"[BioWare] completed the game in January & moved onto the 'From Ashes' DLC... It takes about 3 months from 'content complete' to bug-fix, certify, manufacture, and ship game discs. In that time we work on DLC."
- Casey Hudson, Executive Producer

"The content in 'From Ashes' was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification."
- Michael Gamble, Producer

Those look like Bioware employees to me.

[Chrono Mizaki]

StonedVolus wrote...

I'm not blaming Bioware. I'm blaming Electronic Arts.

Also, were the Kasumi/Zaeed files in Mass Effect 2 only partially complete or was it the whole squadmate?

Zaeed was complete I think. Kasumi wasn't.

[BiO]

[Tigerman123]

I don't think it was ever planned as anything other than than a paid DLC, it was accidently revealed that there was a prothean dlc character like 8 months ago.

It's pathetic

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

What a load of pants OP. It was developed alongside the game, the audio is done first at the same time as the other squad members,and the character animations are done next. They are on the disc, same as Kasumi's audio was. They completed the rest of the DLC after the main game was completed and certified. The download file is NOT an unlock code, it is the remaining data they worked on to finish the DLC, its nothing new - it is nothing they havent done before.

The only thing you can accuse Bioware of doing is purposely creating DLC at the same time as creating the game, but they actually employed and assigned a separate team to make the games DLC instead of diverting resources from making the full game, and the audio and character models have to be created at the same time as the rest of the game for maximum synchronisation. Having it available on day 1 is the only real problem, because people feel like they have to buy it - lets face it who doesn't want it? As it is part of the collectors edition, they decided to release it at the same time so people didn't miss out.

They may have done some dubious things, but this content is not on the disc, only part files. The characters main files have to be, as the character is built with the game.

[stu_]

Descedent wrote...

two words......

Electronic Arts

^^

[BiO]

[off-topic post removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 08 mars 2012 - 05:28 .

[Descedent]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Descedent wrote...

two words......

Electronic Arts

"[BioWare] completed the game in January & moved onto the 'From Ashes' DLC... It takes about 3 months from 'content complete' to bug-fix, certify, manufacture, and ship game discs. In that time we work on DLC."
- Casey Hudson, Executive Producer

"The content in 'From Ashes' was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification."
- Michael Gamble, Producer

Those look like Bioware employees to me.

gtfo EA owns bioware, EA funds bioware, EA makes the decisions.

Bioware NEVER did this stuff when they were on the own. NEVER EVER, not even when they were just apart of the EA partners program... now that EA owns them, bioware is SO different

Modifié par Descedent, 08 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[dw99027]

I don't give a crap about whether the extra content is on the disc or not. If i pay 60$, I get the reg version, if I pay 70$ I get the DLC version. That doesn't change either way. They can price their product versions however they want, and they can package them however the hell they want. I decide what comes out of my wallet.

But the outright lying is reprehensible. I will not condone anything of the sort, IF true.

[tez19]

Bioware in STEEP decline. Disgrace of a developer.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Casey and I have explained how the development timeline on these DLC go, and in order to have our DLC flow with the main game, we do have to integrate the VO into certain places in the core product (Certain ME2 DLCs followed this same pattern). But there's a lot of work to crafting a great DLC, outside of the VO and script.

They admitted already that the Voice acting to integrate the DLC into the game was done in advance. That does not mean that all the DLC was complete in advance.

[k177sh0t]

$$$$$$$$?£££££££ > opinions

Modifié par k177sh0t, 08 mars 2012 - 02:43 .