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[Chrono Mizaki]

Hypothetically, would a person be banned if they said 'End of Rine'?

I forsee this topic getting closed at some point because it is pretty damning. I'm not fine with the DLC being charged 800msp. It should've been charged like 240 to 560msp rather than 800msp.

[Draythe]

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

They admitted already that the Voice acting to integrate the DLC into the game was done in advance. That does not mean that all the DLC was complete in advance.

Read the article. It wasn't just the VO and scripting. The models and UI graphics were all there as well. The entire crew member was there, essentially ready to play. You paid for something that included this in the package but wasn't accessable. If you really want to defend that go ahead, but I can't imagine why you would want to other than blind loyalty.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Draythe wrote...

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

They admitted already that the Voice acting to integrate the DLC into the game was done in advance. That does not mean that all the DLC was complete in advance.

Read the article. It wasn't just the VO and scripting. The models and UI graphics were all there as well. The entire crew member was there, essentially ready to play. You paid for something that included this in the package but wasn't accessable. If you really want to defend that go ahead, but I can't imagine why you would want to other than blind loyalty.

And the whole Eden Prime location and mission? Is that also there? Oh no it isn't. Which was my point.

[Reptillius]

Oh look... some sound and animation files... they already said they didn't go through them completely to make sure they were all there... Hmm. didn't find the files for Eden did they?

I'll get outraged when they can show me I already bought those files before hand and Not just some pieces of them.

[Squallypo]

im not surprised i already knew this since the momment they made it *official* but all those defenders of ea/bioware where in justifications and denials, thats their reward, at this point i dont care, i mean its pointless.

[Draythe]

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

And the whole Eden Prime location and mission? Is that also there? Oh no it isn't. Which was my point.

Your point is hilarious. The crew member is there on the disc you paid for, completed but unsuable. You paid for it and you can't use it unless you pay another $10. Eden Prime was added later yes, but this crew member, which you are allegedly paying for as part of the DLC, was not. You are being sold something you already own about 50% of.

Modifié par Draythe, 08 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[YourFunnyUncle]

By the way I'm not necessarily defending the concept of day one DLC here, but if you're going to accuse Bioware of lying, you should really make sure that that's what they were doing.

[Boombox]

If most of it was done and on the disc they have no reason to charge 800MP for it. I guess they knew how important the lore is to their fans and could easily take advantage of it.

[Reptillius]

Draythe wrote...

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

And the whole Eden Prime location and mission? Is that also there? Oh no it isn't. Which was my point.

Your point is hilarious. The crew member is there on the disc you paid for, completed but unsuable. You paid for it and you can't use it unless you pay another $10. Eden Prime was added later yes, but this crew member, which you are allegedly paying for as part of the DLC, was not. You are being sold something you already own about 50% of.

He's not necessarily all there...  Those that really wanted to prove that he was already there would have shown screenshots of both files that they were exactly and the same sizes and the time stamps on them to prove that they didn't just make one screen shot of the game with the extra content installed.  They would also go on to show in some form files proving that the planet that the DLC character is found on actually exists in the game on the release disc.  If the character's entrance point into the story does not exist then you therefor cannot play the character whether he exists in the game or not because without that level you would have never had a way to get him anyway.

Oh wait? I'm being too practical and technical about this aren't I?

I'll be quiet now. On with the righteous indignation.

[CptBomBom00]

should I buy the DLc, because I haven't bought the game yet, and I would like to known if it worth it?

[YourFunnyUncle]

Draythe wrote...

Your point is hilarious. The crew member is there on the disc you paid for, completed but unsuable. You paid for it and you can't use it unless you pay another $10. Eden Prime was added later yes, but this crew member, which you are allegedly paying for as part of the DLC, was not. You are being sold something you already own about 50% of.

So you're saying what? That they shouldn't have included the stuff that they had ready at the time on the disc, and should've provided us with a bigger download with the whole thing all at once? Yeah, that makes sense...

[zhixson]

Dunno if it means anything to you, but my PC version downloaded an enormous patch for the From Ashes DLC. Downloaded separately. As in, not in the original package.

Make of that what you will.

[Runalak]

 Don't know about you but I had to download a 500mb DLC after I installed it from Disc. So it was not on my disc, which was the Collectors Edition (So DLC code was included with the package)

[hellsjarhead]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

should I buy the DLc, because I haven't bought the game yet, and I would like to known if it worth it?

It depends, if your a huge mass effect fan and the lore is important to you then it is definitly worth it just to talk to the companion but the actual mission is not worth the 10$ I mean thats over 15% of the cost of the game for less then a hour of gameplay.

[Descedent]

Hello Man wrote...

Its the kasumi and zaeed case all over again except bigger.

difference was zaeed was included FREE with all NEW copies of the game with cerberus pass.

[Tezlaa]

Well. I kinda feel like an idiot backing up Bioware on this issue. I can't believe it's on the disc what the actual hell :/

They need to respond to this claim this is pretty unfair on us consumers. No wonder the Prothean has so much dialogue and input into the game!

[android654]

So when people were first talking about this and crying foul, the masses were adamant that they were right and those verbalizing complaints were over reacting, now that they were proven right will people still defend this?

[Descedent]

zhixson wrote...

Dunno if it means anything to you, but my PC version downloaded an enormous patch for the From Ashes DLC. Downloaded separately. As in, not in the original package.

Make of that what you will.

the point is, unannounced future dlc for me3 is not anywhere located on the disc. The prothean however has animation and voice amongst other things on the disc, the download is the actual gameplay files such as textures and environement specific to the mission itself... (which possibly was cut from the disc to reduce file size on discs, it was two discs after all), if this was true dlc.  There wouldn't be any traces of this dlc on the disc already.

Modifié par Descedent, 08 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[hellsjarhead]

I think it's shady but if I was in their position I would have done the exact same thing I mean its almost a guaranteed extra 10$ from about 70% of the people who bought the game which adds up if your game sells in the millions.

[Reptillius]

android654 wrote...

So when people were first talking about this and crying foul, the masses were adamant that they were right and those verbalizing complaints were over reacting, now that they were proven right will people still defend this?

they actually haven't proven anything right yet.  They've just given enough information... yet to be determined as real or false (the blog listed in the OP even admits they couldn't go into the files to double check)...  To basically start a fight. Which they have. Which seems to have been more the point in the first place than any actual proof of wrong doing.

Those that want to prove things like this usually give a lot more proof than single screenshots of some game files in only one location.  They generally give 2 or 3 of them with the files in different locations and/or different times so that people can see for themselves the simularities and differences in those files.

[Draythe]

I'm surprised at the number of people who are actually defending this. It's bad business practice however you look at it. This character was in the game as it shipped, contradicting their claim that the DLC was worked on entirely post launch. Accept these kind of shenanigans and it's just going to get worse, and they'll just get more and more blatant with doing it.

[flexxdk]

No surprise there.

Volition (or whatever they're called) / THQ did the same with Saint's Row The Third. Almost all of the DLC's that they have released are already in the game ITSELF, except it is encrypted.

The number of companies doing this seems to be increasing, which is bad. I'm absolutely against this kind of business practice. If it's on the disk from day one, it should be available to all.

Modifié par Whacka, 08 mars 2012 - 03:16 .

[android654]

Reptillius wrote...

android654 wrote...

So when people were first talking about this and crying foul, the masses were adamant that they were right and those verbalizing complaints were over reacting, now that they were proven right will people still defend this?

they actually haven't proven anything right yet.  They've just given enough information... yet to be determined as real or false (the blog listed in the OP even admits they couldn't go into the files to double check)...  To basically start a fight. Which they have. Which seems to have been more the point in the first place than any actual proof of wrong doing.

Those that want to prove things like this usually give a lot more proof than single screenshots of some game files in only one location.  They generally give 2 or 3 of them with the files in different locations and/or different times so that people can see for themselves the simularities and differences in those files.

You do know his squad banter was ripped from the game as well?