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[Rune-Chan]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Anyone in the least bit suprised by this?

Not in the slightest. It's pretty common nowadays.

[Miashi]

Capeo wrote...

All four DLC for New Vegas were completely new (huge) areas that weren't on the disc.  You wanted examples.  There's one.

You gotta help me here, I haven't played Fallout. Were these dlcs day one DLCs?

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Mr_Dots wrote...

Here's why people care about day 1 dlc: today it may be a character, and tomorrow it may be something more substantial. EA and other publishers are clearly seeing how far they can push the consumer into paying for content that is already completed.

And when that day comes people will not buy anymore and will move to the indie developers.I don't fear the future because I don't know what it will be , the only thing I can do is live in the present,

Bottom line is ultimately the customer has choice.Either buy the core/SD or spend some extra bucks for the CE and get an extra dlc.If none of those than you don't buy or you buy later when the price has dropped , buy used or boycott altogether.In the end it's what you decide in the end.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 08 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

It's obvious that not all of it was on the discs, when you look at the DLC's 600+ MB filesize.

So, why are we still here?

[Descedent]

Miashi wrote...

Capeo wrote...

All four DLC for New Vegas were completely new (huge) areas that weren't on the disc.  You wanted examples.  There's one.

You gotta help me here, I haven't played Fallout. Were these dlcs day one DLCs?

nope. post release.

[SyyRaaaN]

Ofcourse the DLC was done during development. All the characters reply to the Prothean during in game barter and dialog.

Its obvious he was a part of the game that they took out.

[GroverA125]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

wow man...you know video games are software right? You know theres code?  How you think they do patches, oh brilliant one!

Your own choice to stay mis-informed , I'm pretty sure their's atleast a few people that will try to understand for themselves.I choose to be informed most of the time , view the evidence for myself , look into the process and determine for myself what's right or wrong(unless it's a given).I simply can buy into false/mis-leading information and have someone making me rage or pulling my strings.

He has a point you know. How do you know that what you've been told is actually perfectly correct in the first place? I take it you all remember the Jennifer Hepler incident? Remind me, how was that started? I remember! it was someone placing a seed of doubt inside your heads and watching as you all ran around doing exactly what that person wanted. How do you know what you have not been misinformed and that Bioware has not just made the DLC smaller by adding parts on the disc? They've put information on-disc, and you've all jumped to the same conclusion that they did it for unethical reasons because one person says it is because of it. Are you telling me that all of you have looked inside the game files for yourself and ensured all of what you've been told is true, and also personally asked bioware about the matter, and whether they've lied or not, for yourselves? How about we wait and see what bioware has to say about the matter before you start assuming what certain people have claimed?

Side note: I haven't added this post to start another argument. I've posted this because it is proof that no matter what people have told you about something, it isn't necessarily true. What happened to Hepler was unacceptable, but very few people cared to stop and think about what was really going on. My apologies if point this has offended anyone.

Modifié par GroverA125, 08 mars 2012 - 05:44 .

[android654]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...
I thought I'd never say this but where living in a gimme gimme free , game generation.And because games are start charging a little more along with offering a premium edition with extra content.People feel its wrong because they want everything free.

I don't know who's advocating in favor of free games, but If I purchase a game I expect to receive all of the content that is on the disk.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

It's obvious that not all of it was on the discs, when you look at the DLC's 600+ MB filesize.

So, why are we still here?

That's what I'm wandering , Slight Spoiler look at Your own Risk:
 for the record Prothean in the dark about his own peoples tech and his job is killing things. 

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 08 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[Dantexr3]

Actually the character was in the demo already.

[cotheer]

Not surprised at all, given how many bad decisions they've made in the last few years anyway.
But i will say this; this ****ty practice will only leave one big ass stain on their reputation and will backfire at them eventually. TB already decided not to buy the game, not DLC but the game, because of this.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Dantexr3 wrote...

Actually the character was in the demo already.

Becuse the orignal idea was for him to be in the story , during the pre-work on it something happened to where they didn't like the idea and they scrapped it.The dlc team bought it back along with re-working it as dlc and completed it.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 08 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

cotheer wrote...

Not surprised at all, given how many bad decisions they've made in the last few years anyway.
But i will say this; this ****ty practice will only leave one big ass stain on their reputation and will backfire at them eventually. TB already decided not to buy the game, not DLC but the game, because of this.

It will , but this is mostly EA with a little bit of Bioware.

[Joy Divison]

If I knew this many people felt it perfectly legitimate to be ripped off, I would have gone into sales.

[Alex Arterius]

Is there any way we can send this scoop to game sites?

I mean forgive me if i'm wrong, but I feel as if we don't take some sort of stnd on this it's just gonna keep on happening :/

It was bad enough when it was say 1 dlc... but now to find out it's on the disk?

We're paying customers for a premium product... not pushovers

[evil m0nk3y 64]

so was kasumi, go make a topic about that

[Descedent]

 Is this true ?

[Draythe]

Alex Arterius wrote...

Is there any way we can send this scoop to game sites?

I mean forgive me if i'm wrong, but I feel as if we don't take some sort of stnd on this it's just gonna keep on happening :/

It was bad enough when it was say 1 dlc... but now to find out it's on the disk?

We're paying customers for a premium product... not pushovers

I sent it off to Kotaku and Destructoid this morning. Destructoids already posted an article about it.


http://www.destructo...c--223448.phtml 

[Descedent]

Alex Arterius wrote...

Is there any way we can send this scoop to game sites?

I mean forgive me if i'm wrong, but I feel as if we don't take some sort of stnd on this it's just gonna keep on happening :/

It was bad enough when it was say 1 dlc... but now to find out it's on the disk?

We're paying customers for a premium product... not pushovers

destructoid has already reported on it.

[Travie]

Miashi wrote...

Capeo wrote...

All four DLC for New Vegas were completely new (huge) areas that weren't on the disc.  You wanted examples.  There's one.

You gotta help me here, I haven't played Fallout. Were these dlcs day one DLCs?

Yeah, the New Vegas DLCs were DLC done right.

It was basically like 4 expansion packs. Awesome.

[Alex Arterius]

Draythe wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

Is there any way we can send this scoop to game sites?

I mean forgive me if i'm wrong, but I feel as if we don't take some sort of stnd on this it's just gonna keep on happening :/

It was bad enough when it was say 1 dlc... but now to find out it's on the disk?

We're paying customers for a premium product... not pushovers

I sent it off to Kotaku and Destructoid this morning. Destructoids already posted an article about it.


http://www.destructo...c--223448.phtml 

Ahhhh, wicked.

It would be good if we can get this to IGN, considering how much they report on Mass Effect related stories.

[gabe2gg]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Mr_Dots wrote...

Here's why people care about day 1 dlc: today it may be a character, and tomorrow it may be something more substantial. EA and other publishers are clearly seeing how far they can push the consumer into paying for content that is already completed.

And when that day comes people will not buy anymore and will move to the indie developers.I don't fear the future because I don't know what it will be , the only thing I can do is live in the present,

Bottom line is ultimately the customer has choice.Either buy the core/SD or spend some extra bucks for the CE and get an extra dlc.If none of those than you don't buy or you buy later when the price has dropped , buy used or boycott altogether.In the end it's what you decide in the end.

thats a lie, because people are so gullible as seen here on BSN.

[Matt VT Schlo]

This thread = kicking a dead horse. Its time we all moved passed the 'horror' of Day one DLC

[rockman0]

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Modifié par rockman0, 08 mars 2012 - 06:04 .

[evil m0nk3y 64]

SyyRaaaN wrote...

Ofcourse the DLC was done during development. All the characters reply to the Prothean during in game barter and dialog.

Its obvious he was a part of the game that they took out.

WOAH! that has to mean exactly tat because bioware can't POSSIBLE in ANY WAY get the vioce actors to record some extra lines for a DLC can they?

your agument in invalid, go and look at kasumi and zaeed, eveyone replys and banters with them