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[Thoragoros]

Huttj509 wrote...

 So I tried out the Falcon.  Seems to not do much damage.  Am I missing something?  Some trick to using it?  Does a direct shot do less than a ricochet, for example?

Excerpt from the Alliance Infantry Hand Book,

While using Assault Rifles, it is advised to throw rocks when damaging the enemy is required.  If no rocks are available, or reaching for the ground is impracticle, strike the enemy with the end opposite the barrel.

That pretty much sums it up.  Assault Rifles need a buff,.

[Sabbatine]

Spellbound83 wrote...

Really? I unlocked it, and it feels like it takes a clip to kill basic soldiers. Is my aim just off or something? I excelled in the beta with a Phalanx...unfortunately I haven't been able to unlock a new pistol.

It sounds like the problem is you are trying to use the Falcon like you would any other assault rifle, or really any other weapon.  It doesn't do a ton of damage per shot like a carnifex or widow, but it compensates for this by doing damage in a pretty generous radius so you want to be shooting at tightly grouped enemies whenever possible.  A skilled falcon user in a bronze game will often have a higher score than the other three team mates combined.

Generally speaking this weapon has a level of flexibility that none of the other weapons even approach.

1.  It does aoe damage.  It might take 2-3 shots to put down a single basic enemy, but on the other side of the scale it only takes the falcon 2-3 shots to put down five basic enemies if they're close together.

2.  It denies enemy units the benefit of cover.  You can fire the grenade just over the cover to cause a proximity detonation, or you can bounce the shot off a wall or ceiling (or any other surface) to get it to land in cover with the enemy.  You can shoot around corners with this thing.

3.  The falcon utterly destroyed barriers.  Phantoms in particular are dominated by this weapon because it also negates their mobility as direct hits aren't required, just aim for their feet and no amount of dodging can save them.  It also works extremely well against Brutes because even if you hit their armor the aoe blast still damages them as though you hit the flesh.

4.  This may very well be the best weapon in the game for personal defense.  If you're being overwhelmed by husks, swarmers, or other weak enemies all you need to do is fire a few rounds straight into the floor and all the weak enemies are dead.  If you're surrounded by surrounding enemies the shots may not kill them but they are generally stumbled making for an easier escape.

There are numerous other great things about this weapon but you have to decide for yourself whether it works with your play style.  It has a lot of advantages, but it has a few weaknesses as well.  As far as I can tell, this weapon cannot benefit from headshot bonus damage.  You are also stuck with an extremely limited ammo supply at the gun's lower levels so at times you feel chained to the ammo box and you can run out at some very unfortunate times... but on the bright side, if you're surrounded near an ammo box you'll be killing a lot of enemies in a very short period of time.

[Jjynn]

I use this on my Turian Soldier with the stability and weight augments. Combined with Concussive Shot, its brutal to just about anything but heavies. But I tend to play in a more support-oriented role. I aim for more of a CC effect than racking up kills.

As a side-note, with how my Turian is set up, Its two Falcon rounds, Concussive Shot, Two more. I find, coupled with the extended magazine, it stretches out the time to my next reload nicely.

But I am constantly aware of my distance for any ammo resupply at all times too. Its a different kind of weapon from the other ARs. Just takes some getting used to.

[Moejahied]

Marksmen + Revenant is still 1 of the most bad ass moves in my opinion! Makes me feel like RAMBO when walking around haha.

[Kastrenzo]

travis8908 wrote...

The Arc Pistol has a charge blast. But at lvl 1, it seemed pretty weak to me.

Barrel and Magazine upgrade change that. Especially against Geth.

[Greystone]

High level revenant with marksman, and falcon with either adrenaline rush or marksman are both amazing.

[Krogort]

 Falcon is bugged and misfire too often to be a reliable weapon, thus I don't use it anymore.

[bobby0133]

You dont use Falcon for the damage.. you use it for the stun/knock back. Works on Banshee's too.

[Charlie2417]

What weapons are you guys using if you find the Falcon doing low damage?

[Doc Smiley]

I have the Falcon III ans sometimes it won't do damage if you try to rapid fire to fast you have to slow down a lil and will do damage evertime.

[mysticforce42]

Falcon is more for crowd control and AoE damage than a precision weapon. You can render a group of enemies, or a single difficult enemy, harmless for 6 seconds.

Make sure to fire slowly - mashing the button will only get you blanks.

The only downside is the Falcon does very little damage to armor, trying to take out an Atlas or something on Gold with it requires a few trips to the ammo box.

Modifié par mysticforce42, 11 mars 2012 - 11:23 .

[UK Wildcat]

Falcon potentially is the best gun in the game for sheer total damage. As a bonus, you rarely if ever have to shoot directly at an enemy if you are moving.

In my eyes, falcon is the best gun once upgraded to solo gold, and is the best way to level your characters most efficiently from 1-20 on any difficulty level.

[FabricatedWookie]

Falcon + choke point = win

great for getting to those pesky people hiding behind cover.

Modifié par FabricatedWookie, 11 mars 2012 - 11:33 .

[FabricatedWookie]

Falcon for the mooks, geth shotgun for the heavies

[UK Wildcat]

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Falcon for the mooks, geth shotgun for the heavies

Disagree, don't take two guns if you have a falcon and its upgraded.

[FabricatedWookie]

Playing a fortified krogan soldier build. Don't care about weight, i.e. weapon/melee damage based.

[Nizzemancer]

Tommytsunami wrote...

The Graal spike thrower shotgun can charge shots... at least I'm pretty sure it can. I had a friend playing the other night who was using it and said it is amazing when you charge the shots for it since it will one hit almost anything. I do think the geth shotgun is better though.

Well when the description for your weapon says it's used for hunting Thresher maws and how it's got jagged spikes sticking out in case the maw swallows you whole, you know it will do some damage.

[Sabbatine]

UK Wildcat wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Falcon for the mooks, geth shotgun for the heavies

Disagree, don't take two guns if you have a falcon and its upgraded.

I disagree with him as well, but that's because you're normally going to be on a team with three other people.  There's no need to bring a weapon for heavies because at least one team mate will typically have a weapon for that... and even if they didn't four people combining fire on a single target will work as a substitute as well.

I do agree with an earlier statement of yours about it probably being the best weapon to solo gold with.  It's less than ideal against enemies like banshees, atlas mechs, and geth primes but those are (in my opinion) by far the least threatening enemies on that difficulty.  Low level enemies aren't kind enough to warn you of their presence with constant screaming or giant footsteps you can hear from a mile away either.

Everything does so much damage  that base level troops will kill you a lot faster than the elite troops, but even if they didn't it's far more beneficial to clear out the fodder as quickly as possible to give you room to manuever and eliminate the risk of being flanked or running into a lone enemy at the worst possible time.

Modifié par Sabbatine, 12 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[RahhbyyCanoEverybody]

Used it today on my own host for the first time. Great gun when lag doesn't come into play. Absolutely worthless when lag causes you to shoot blanks.

[AgamenonAtreides]

I unlocked my Falcon yesterday and i use it now more than the Widow, because i can start to kill enemies without seeing them, because can shot on a wall and the nade bounces and impact on the enemie, have a good range, don´t need to impact directly on the enemie to make damage, have a good AOE, the bad thing is that only have 34 nades at any time, 10 on the gun and 24 on reloads.


I think this combination with a Human Soldier with 4 nades would be awesome

[Elecbender]

AgamenonAtreides wrote...

I unlocked my Falcon yesterday and i use it now more than the Widow, because i can start to kill enemies without seeing them, because can shot on a wall and the nade bounces and impact on the enemie, have a good range, don´t need to impact directly on the enemie to make damage, have a good AOE, the bad thing is that only have 34 nades at any time, 10 on the gun and 24 on reloads.


I think this combination with a Human Soldier with 4 nades would be awesome

Well if you use Adrenaline Rush just before the magazine empties your entire magazine will replenish and allow you to fire 10 more grenades.  

I hereby call this weapon the Phantom Slayer.

Modifié par Elecbender, 12 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[AgamenonAtreides]

Well i "reseted" my soldier a few days ago when i unlocked my quarian infiltrator.

Anyway never use the adrenaline rush, i prefer use the commotion (i think is this the word for that power, i dont have the game on english xD), because make damage and pull down the enemies, then i can reload

And yes, the falcon is the nightmare of a phantom, i killed a few phantoms with 6 nades each one.. normally i need use a full magazine of my mattock or other weapon.. and good luck if u use a sniper xD.

Modifié par AgamenonAtreides, 12 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[DA Trap Star]

The gun is fun as heck to use, if it wasn't for the blanks bug the gun would own.
It staggers brutes and Geth Primes when the bomb connects.

[Cipher_73]

I've used pratctially every weapon in the assault rifle category for getting kills. Avenger. Mattock. Saber. Revenant. Geth Pulse Rifle. And lastly, the Falcon. And I can tell you this right now from using it extensively. The Falcon is the best assault rife out there hands down. I Take out soo many enemies quicker than any other assault rifle from long range or close range. Alot of my buddies always get jealous because they don't have it, and whenever I use it, it just dominates the field. Use controlled single fire shots coupled with the Armor Piercing mod and Extended Ammo mod and you'll shred enemies real fast. Its the only assault rifle weapon that can hit a target behind cover by just shooting barely over the top of where they're hiding from. Pluse the high rate of fire coupled with the area proximity splash damage will take out enemies faster than any other assault rifle weapon. Anyone who says that the Falcon sucks clearly has not used it correctly. I've never had anyone who's seen me use the Falcon say that it sucks. Most of them say that it's awesome, or complain because I keep taking their kills. Lol.

Tip: Fire the Falcon and wait for the impact of the grenade before firing the next round. The grenades fly soo fast that a follow up shot is easy to do even at long distance. And once you get really good with it, you can fire a bit sooner and you'll never hit any blank fires unless it's some serious lag issue. Do not use scopes, unless you're just into pimping up your gun. The scopes are overkill on getting direct hits from across the map. This is not Battlefield 3 folks! The maps are nowhere near the size of that game. And as I stated before, use the Armor Piercing mod once you unlock it.

I forgot to mention. Use direct hits on the enemy. If you don't, it'll bounce the grenade instead of exploding instantly. You use the bounce explosion if they're behind cover that's a tall vertical wall where you cannot shoot over their heads to do the proximity explosion. Doing this will cause your grenade to explode next to them and hit them behind cover. And remember, you have to bounce it before the target, not after. Otherwise you will miss and the grenade will not explode.

Modifié par Cipher_73, 12 mars 2012 - 05:46 .

[TexasToast712]

Elecbender wrote...

There's a thread around here where the Falcon may shoot blanks.

If you aren't host and fire it too fast, it shoots blanks.