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[Kronner]

... is the Wayne Gretzky of Mass Effect. You can do anything.

I checked out Widow and Javelin too, but Black Widow is the better Sniper Rifle in my opinion.

Ignore the time dilatation mod, and use extra damage and extra ammo mods instead. This allows you to fire two (2!) shots while cloaked (just stay zoomed in the entire time).

So you can either kill two light targets / fire two shots AND Incinerate against a heavy target in one Cloak cycle. In the end, Black Widow outdamages all other sniper rifles while reducing the time you are exposed to a minimum.

Insane weapon well worthy of its name. Now BioWare, please bring in Black Revenant and Black Claymore 

Modifié par Kronner, 08 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[Drake-Shepard]

what? wait?
Don't you uncloak after the first shot?

And is the black widow faster then the viper
Using the Indra at the moment. Its ... different...

[Kronner]

You can fire 2 shots while cloaked...so you get cloak bonus for both shots. It is insane.

[Drake-Shepard]

within the same time dilation?

[Kronner]

What do you mean? You must not use that dilatation mod, otherwise you won't be able to fire twice in one Cloak cycle.

[termokanden]

It was my understanding that the time dilation from the class passive doesn't work properly. At least it didn't do anything when I tried it.

If they fix that, I guess the ability to fire twice in one cloak might be gone.

[Kronner]

That would suck. Time dilatation is useless if you can aim/have a mouse.

Modifié par Kronner, 10 mars 2012 - 01:06 .

[rumination888]

I prefer a Viper.

6 shots, 6 dead enemies, super quick reload, minimal recoil, maximum power recharge, huge time dilation with a level V mod(time dilation is more than just an aim enhancer), large enough base ammo.

Armored targets die fast enough from cryo, incinerate, and sticky grenades anyways. Shielded targets die from two shots while cloaked. And I didn't bother using weapon damage armor or even a helmet(I used power and shield recharge for looks)

[Athenau]

Time dilation slows everything down. You get two black widow shots before you decloak regardless of how much dilation you stack (and you actually get the damage bonus on the 3rd since the cloak damage bonus lasts for 2.5 seconds).

Modifié par Athenau, 10 mars 2012 - 04:39 .

[termokanden]

That's good to hear. I haven't properly tested infiltrator myself yet so I'm just going by what people are writing here. The only thing I have confirmed for myself is that there isn't any time dilation on the class passive. If there is, there's so little of it that it isn't noticable.

But it's a good thing if it can never be a weakness. After all, it IS meant to help you.

Modifié par termokanden, 10 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[Athenau]

There is definitely time dilation on the class passive. It's very noticeable if you fire the Incisor for example--the first burst is noticeably slower.

[noxsachi]

I really prefer the N7 Valiant thus far, it is like a mix between a proper rifle like the Widow and the Viper. Very fun weapon that has a big kick. The only thing that I have trouble with is what close range weapon to pair it with since the SMG's are not to my taste now. Currently bouncing between the Phaeston and the Argus AR's but can't decide!

[FoFoZem]

Valiant kicks ass

[Tumedus]

Haven't used the valiant but the black widow also has the benefit of being able to shoot through cover and shields (the ones guardians use) without the need of mods or ammo powers.

[Drake-Shepard]

why can you not fire 2 black widow shots cloaked if your using added time dilation/concentration mod (as people are saying)

The physics do not make sense. Is it just a glitch/coding issue

wait, when time slows down (even more then standard- infiltrator + concentration mod)...is the cloak time duration running down at the same rate even though time has slowed? 

And do you not unlcloak after the first shot anyway.

Sigh. I guess i have to equip that annoying viper and see for myself

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 10 mars 2012 - 09:50 .

[Wattoes]

Black Widow is pretty awesome.

I highly recommend people try out the raptor too. Its more like a semi-auto assault rifle, but its a very flexible weapon.

In terms of "overall dps" for some of those bigger targets, im pretty sure it surpasses the widow.

[termokanden]

Athenau wrote...

There is definitely time dilation on the class passive. It's very noticeable if you fire the Incisor for example--the first burst is noticeably slower.

I tried importing my level 30 infiltrator and played until Mars. I wasn't seeing any time dilation when using the Mantis. None at all.

I also had a glitch earlier on Arrival that removed time dilation temporarily. Perhaps it's something like that.

Modifié par termokanden, 10 mars 2012 - 12:26 .

[Athenau]

Termokanden:

I tried importing my level 30 infiltrator and played until Mars. I wasn't seeing any time dilation when using the Mantis. None at all.

I also had a glitch earlier on Arrival that removed time dilation temporarily. Perhaps it's something like that.

Hmm, maybe you didn't have enough points in operational mastery? It maxes at 35% dilation unlike 60% in ME2, so you might not even notice it if you don't max it. Or you could've run into a bug.

Wattoes:

I highly recommend people try out the raptor too. Its more like a semi-auto assault rifle, but its a very flexible weapon.

The Raptor is very nice, especially considering how the weight scales nicely with upgrades.

Modifié par Athenau, 10 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[termokanden]

I imported a level 30 infiltrator, which means the points have already been placed when you start ME3. That places me at a high level in mastery but not quite the top.

It's possible it isn't all that noticable when it's not maxed. In any case I couldn't tell there was time dilation.

Modifié par termokanden, 10 mars 2012 - 01:23 .

[Athenau]

I imported a level 30 infiltrator, which means the points have already been placed when you start ME3. That places me at a high level in mastery but not quite the top.

I imported my soldier and changed class to infiltrator, so I had my points reset in the first mission. I didn't realize that you kept your old build if you didn't change class. My bad.

[RenegadeVA]

Mantis FTW.

Lightweight/Powerful/Animation Cancelling/Ammo.

[JolleB]

I don't know what to chose as the last thing in infiltrator, 40% sniper damage or use one power without revealing yourself.

[RenegadeVA]

Dude, the bonus power is a no Brainer.

How much damage does a fully charged incinerate do?

Compare that to a 40% boost to your BASE sniper rifle damage...

[Athenau]

It's not actually a bonus power. It still triggers the power cooldown, all it does is prevent you uncloaking for the first power you use while cloaked.

[turbare]

RenegadeVA wrote...

Dude, the bonus power is a no Brainer.

How much damage does a fully charged incinerate do?

Compare that to a 40% boost to your BASE sniper rifle damage...

It's not a no brainer, the free ability is also awesome depending on situation.
Both are viable options and should depend on personal preference.