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[paralitos]

Shepard dies for peace and ends the cycle of organic life harvesting (s)he knew what (s)he signed up for and became a legend for future generations

[Evil_medved]

All endings are happy, because cycle is broken one way or another.

[DifferentD17]

It may be happier in that sense, but you're basically becoming what you wanted to destroy.

There is already peace, and I see no reason why the Geth would attack they've been very peaceful thus far. If there is a conflict I'm sure all organic could come together again and beat them, especially if the genophage is dealt with.

[loungeshep]

Evil_medved wrote...

All endings are happy, because cycle is broken one way or another.

That's how I look at it. And life will go on.

[Taleroth]

Synthesis is too space magic. There's absolutely no remotely feasible way for what happens to happen. I have an easier time reconciling it as Shepard being stuck in a simulated reality than it actually happening in the setting.

Control is happy enough because Shepard can live on in a way. And I can dismiss the Guardian as simply insane.

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

I saw this ending as being the happier one as well....but then, would survivors offspring be half synthetic as well? or would they be organic and rise up to kill the parental units.

[RxP4IN]

Happy or sad doesn't matter. One word--Guardian.

Seriously, BW? Introduce the seemingly most powerful, omnipotent entity in the galaxy in the last 5 minutes, give no explanation as to what it is or how it came to be, and give it the worst logic possible: Spare organics from synthetic dominance by assimilating them into....synthetics--dominant synthetics. Making ME:Deception look like a masterpiece.

Modifié par RxP4IN, 08 mars 2012 - 06:17 .

[Almostfaceman]

Life will go on, as dictated by some weird child who we know nothing about. I didn't hand the Collector Base over to TIM because he was at best unknowable and I couldn't trust him, then I hand over decisions to something I know nothing about? It goes counter to everything I've been fighting for - give the Krogan a chance, give EDI a chance, give the Rachni a chance, give the Geth a chance - don't control their fates based on what "might happen". And that's exactly what the child is, fear that organics and synthetics cannot co-exist. So I must give in to that fear? Must give in to the solutions it presents? Shepard, Renegade or Paragon, would have told the machine boy "Frak you, we all deserve a chance to live our lives on our terms, who are you to shape our destiny? Who are you? Why should I trust you? How do I know any of your choices are real anyway?"

How do we even know that life goes on? From the incoherent mess the ending is, it all may be the last thoughts of Shepard as he lies dying from the blast of the Reaper.

Actually, life goes on with the Reapers. They only harvest certain amounts of life, then process it into a different kind of life. So even with the Reapers, life exists in both Reaperized and un-Reaperized forms.

So, the ending had to be so much more than "life goes on." And it wasn't.

[Evil_medved]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Life will go on, as dictated by some weird child who we know nothing about. I didn't hand the Collector Base over to TIM because he was at best unknowable and I couldn't trust him, then I hand over decisions to something I know nothing about? It goes counter to everything I've been fighting for - give the Krogan a chance, give EDI a chance, give the Rachni a chance, give the Geth a chance - don't control their fates based on what "might happen". And that's exactly what the child is, fear that organics and synthetics cannot co-exist. So I must give in to that fear? Must give in to the solutions it presents? Shepard, Renegade or Paragon, would have told the machine boy "Frak you, we all deserve a chance to live our lives on our terms, who are you to shape our destiny? Who are you? Why should I trust you? How do I know any of your choices are real anyway?"

How do we even know that life goes on? From the incoherent mess the ending is, it all may be the last thoughts of Shepard as he lies dying from the blast of the Reaper.

Actually, life goes on with the Reapers. They only harvest certain amounts of life, then process it into a different kind of life. So even with the Reapers, life exists in both Reaperized and un-Reaperized forms.

So, the ending had to be so much more than "life goes on." And it wasn't.

Reapers actually a pretty neat form of heavy armed life, both synth and organic. Being part of such unity has benefits as it seems, though process of transforming into one looks kinda painfull.

[mopotter]

loungeshep wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

All endings are happy, because cycle is broken one way or another.

That's how I look at it. And life will go on.

This would have been a game I would  not be interested in playing and would not have purchased.  Actually, this is the problem I'm having.  I no longer have an interest in playing it, but I paid $70 for it.

ME3 has more than one ending and should have had something where the player, can have some hope that Shepard will make a life with their LI and friends.  After defeating the reapers.

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Modifié par mopotter, 08 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[Ieldra]

paralitos wrote...
Shepard dies for peace and ends the cycle of organic life harvesting (s)he knew what (s)he signed up for and became a legend for future generations

I would absolutely love that ending if the relays didn't break up. I HATE dark age endings beyond anything else. It may not be *that* dark if you consider the details, but the fact that I don't have a choice about it and galactic civilization always fragments makes all endings depressing rather than sad.

As it is, I see no reason to buy into any of these endings, and since I'm doing a mental rewrite anyway, I'll imagine that Shepard's mind re-coalesces after the Synthesis. After all, he promised Miranda he would find her, and Shepard keeps his promises to her.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 mars 2012 - 07:07 .

[Savber100]

Ieldra2 wrote...

paralitos wrote...
Shepard dies for peace and ends the cycle of organic life harvesting (s)he knew what (s)he signed up for and became a legend for future generations

I would absolutely love that ending if the relays didn't break up. I HATE dark age endings beyond anything else. It may not be *that* dark if you consider the details, but the fact that I don't have a choice about it and galactic civilization always fragments makes all endings depressing rather than sad.

I wonder if mods can just edit out the specific cutscene of the mass relays blowing up. 

Honestly this is the last game of the Shepard's trilogy. I think if people are really that eager, they should give it a shot (even though it would be extremely difficult). 

[Texhnolyze101]

No all endings are trash i couldn't care less about the rest of the galaxy.

[packardbell]

Speaking of the synthesis ending... why is Joker limping still? You'd think being part machine would mean such things wouldn't be a problem.

[Sashimi_taco]

The endings are crap. All of them.

[priestess of blood]

It's pretty much forcing my shep to be a liar with these endings, saying you'll come back to him/her and then pulling these endings.

[paralitos]

Well i didnt really want to enter in the quality of the endings discussion as there are a lot of topics with this subject, i just saw that many consider the ending misserable, and they are sad as we all liked our Shepard character but i think there is hope and positive aura in all of them, especially in the merge one

[SwiftMustache]

Now I just have to wait for Half-Life final, I hope this one will be worth it. Not like ME3 ending.

The two best series in the world and one have been ruined.

Modifié par hurrycanne699, 08 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[PerfectLife]

The Synthesis ending is the cannon best ending.

[knightnblu]

My problem with the synthesis option was that I had to play God in order to take it. By re-writing the DNA of every living thing in the galaxy I have effectively changed them forever without their consent. Further, the implications also are problematic. There can be no peace unless we are willing to absorb technology into ourselves and fundamentally change our natures. People don't want the government in their bedroom, but going ahead and making fundamental changes to my body and mind without even bothering to ask me first is totally cool. Secondly, it also implies that sentient life is inherently incapable of preventing its own self destruction a la Battlestar Galactica. Puleeze.
 
That AI had murdered uncounted trillions of sentients over billions of years. Worse, he thought that he was doing the galaxy a favor. I would imagine that Hitler also believed that he was doing humanity a favor when he was committing his atrocities. On the one hand we have the AI on the Citadel as the representative of all evil and on the other we have the form of EDI representing good. This is mirrored in Anderson and TIM's confrontation prior to meeting the AI.
 
While these contrasts are mildly interesting, they never the less accomplish nothing. We never learn who the AI is, when it was created, the true scope of the number reaped, and most importantly, how the AI arrived at that conclusion. No, Shepard must step in and do what must be done. The AI could have done it himself, but he is going to make Shepard pull the switch. Really? That was the best they could come up with? Shepard is going to score an own goal so that he could do what the AI could and should have done?
 
The synthesis option was a deus ex machina intended to close the story because either the writers had no idea where to go with it or they were forced to close the story prematurely.
Either way, the ending was not satisfying and made no sense. Shepard was not in control of the situation and he was forced into a path in order to save something of what once was. Because when Shepard pulled the trigger, trillions died when the mass relays exploded throughout the galaxy and that includes those left on the Citadel. That seems to be the larger issue, but I don't see much buzz about it.
 

[Parrk]

Assimilation offers a higher degree of hope for all life moving forward I think. Of the three I was offered, it was far superior to the others.

[jlb524]

I still don't know why Shepard has to die in this ending. She could just cut off her hand and throw it in the beam or something...yeah.

[RxP4IN]

paralitos wrote...

Well i didnt really want to enter in the quality of the endings discussion as there are a lot of topics with this subject, i just saw that many consider the ending misserable, and they are sad as we all liked our Shepard character but i think there is hope and positive aura in all of them, especially in the merge one

I could honestly care less about Shepard or the crew, casualties were expected. I wanted an explanation on the Reapers. Instead we get some incoherent mess about chaos and order, as well as the introduction of a new entity that--while being the more mysterious and powerful than the Reapers it controls--Shepard automatically trusts it and confines to its wishes.


Me: Shepard will  you work with the Reapers?
Shep: NEVER!!!
Me: How about their master, whom you know even less about?
Shep: Sure, why not


This character alone undermines all the ME games. If merging would bring undoubted peace and end the chaos, why didn't this being just do it themselves in the first place...<_<



Edit: kinda got ninja'd by knighnblu...good post dude, couldn't agree more

Modifié par RxP4IN, 08 mars 2012 - 07:50 .

[IanPolaris]

packardbell wrote...

Speaking of the synthesis ending... why is Joker limping still? You'd think being part machine would mean such things wouldn't be a problem.

That's odd, because from what I can tell, the Merge ending was the only time I saw Joker NOT walk hunched over in pain (he clearly is in the other two ending scenes).  Instead he seems to walk in the merge ending relatively painlessly hand in hand with EDI, his true love.

-Polaris

[tankarmarx]

Any ending w/o Thane and Mordin is a bad ending for me. The game ended for me when poor Mordin died. XD

Replaying ME1&2 to try and change some things, but knowing that ultimately the endings don't change kind of makes me irritable, but I'll probably keep playing through til the last mission of ME3 just to see what kind of differences there are in the actual story before then.

I guess Synergy is as "happy" as it'll get. I went the Kill All Synthetics route which was kind of bitter considering how much time was spent just trying to keep the Geth alive and in peace with the Quarians.

I'll add that I'm disappointed in the endings, but there are already many threads about this so I won't dwell on it too much.