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[2seater]

wooowww. I did not expect that... but they are ideal opponents. I loved everything about Kai Leng in the books (minus deception) and Thane is my road dog next to Garrus. I just keep thinking, if Thane was in perfect health with a blade of his own,.....WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

[nitefyre410]

2seater wrote...

wooowww. I did not expect that... but they are ideal opponents. I loved everything about Kai Leng in the books (minus deception) and Thane is my road dog next to Garrus. I just keep thinking, if Thane was in perfect health with a blade of his own,.....WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

 

Third Hokage while fighting his old student: "If I was tens years younger I would  kill him." 


Thats about the same thing that would have happend between Thane and kei Leng...  Kei Leng was stop be a terminal ill  Drell.  Kei Leng would be dead... by fasing a health  Thane in his prime than.. still 

the Biotic **** Slap heard around the world.

[Rawgrim]

Kai Leng looked like some damn anime hero. Dodging bullets 5 feet away from the gun etc. I absolutely hated the character.

[K_Tabris]

2seater wrote...

wooowww. I did not expect that... but they are ideal opponents. I loved everything about Kai Leng in the books (minus deception) and Thane is my road dog next to Garrus. I just keep thinking, if Thane was in perfect health with a blade of his own,.....WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

Kai Leng would realize that it's not about humans vs. aliens, and that he can be beaten.

In thebooks he actually reminded me of a wannabe Thane.  Haha, Thane would never have allowed Anderson to trap him in the biotic school like that.

[loungeshep]

I'm an idiot who lost Thane because I never saw him at the Citadel, ended up doing the coup.

Do you still get to fight the Cereal Assassin?

[HaiknEdge]

I think it proves Thane is and was the greatest assassin in the Mass Effect universe. I mean, he stops an assassin with Cerberus training and Reaper tech from finishing his job.... While he's dying and having trouble breathing...

Bumps Thane up a few notches in my book.

[tankarmarx]

Rawgrim wrote...

Kai Leng looked like some damn anime hero. Dodging bullets 5 feet away from the gun etc. I absolutely hated the character.

Same, I thought he was so out of place it hurt.

Hurt Thane more, but it hurt me as well.

That being said, I thought the scene was well done but incredibly stupid.  Since Thane was my LI I was like, so any of you guys going to, like, y'know STEP IN and help or what?

And only in Mass Effect can you take a missile to the face (not just Garrus, I'm talking about the Atlases too and Rocket Troopers in general) and thousands of headshots, but a sword to the gut?  I hope you had your will written.

Well, not only in Mass Effect, but you get the gist of it. 

The only good thing about Kai Leng was finally killing the doucher and having my Shep mention it was for Thane.  That right there was awesome.  Not worth Thane dying in the first place, but awesome in it's own right.

[horacethegrey]

That was quite possibly Thane's greatest moment in the series. He was one of my faves in ME2, and that little scene proved just how awesome he is. I love how he calls Kai Leng an embarassment for letting a terminally ill Drell match up with him.

And his death was probably the most touching sendoff in ME3. Last year I started a thread wondering how he'd die in ME3, and I have to say the passing Bioware made for him was quite fitting. 

Question though, I've not yet played with my Femshep who romanced him, but how does his death play out if you two were together?

[tankarmarx]

horacethegrey wrote...

That was quite possibly Thane's greatest moment in the series. He was one of my faves in ME2, and that little scene proved just how awesome he is. I love how he calls Kai Leng an embarassment for letting a terminally ill Drell match up with him.

And his death was probably the most touching sendoff in ME3. Last year I started a thread wondering how he'd die in ME3, and I have to say the passing Bioware made for him was quite fitting. 

Question though, I've not yet played with my Femshep who romanced him, but how does his death play out if you two were together?

I don't know if I did it wrong or what but it plays out NO different from what I can tell from what everyone is saying.

He gets stabbed, Kai gets away, Thane says to go on he has time, and Shep leaves to pursue Kai Leng.

Then during the hospital scene it's more or less as described as well.  You and Kolyat can say a prayer together which is apparently not for Thane, but for you. 

No one.  And I mean NO ONE in my game ever says a word about Thane dying.  When Mordin died everyone was offering condolences which was so sad for me since he was my ultimately favourite but for Thane no one ever said a word to my Shep even though I romanced him.  I was really confused.

There is no heartwrenching goodbye (well the entire thing is heartwrenching inofitself but specifically so with a  FemShep romance) that differenciates from a romance.

Maybe I did it wrong, idk, because I really did feel like there should have been SOMETHING.  And when I continued with the game all the way to the ending and got no recognition for doing Thane's romance at all I was pretty mad.  Not even like a reminiscence scene or something.  Nada.

Modifié par tankarmarx, 08 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[mereck7980]

After reading ME Retribution I was hoping for a Thane v Kai Leng fight. This was quite possibly my favorite thing in ME3 (I haven't finished the game yet but am almost done).

[2seater]

Rawgrim wrote...

Kai Leng looked like some damn anime hero. Dodging bullets 5 feet away from the gun etc. I absolutely hated the character.

I will say that he does look 'out of the box' as far as the ME universe goes, but have you read any of the novels?
Kai Leng is BEYOND cool. I even enjoy the whole cereal meme.

Also, the way the novels describe his appearence and his appearence and voice in-game is exactly what I imagined. (except for the cyclops glasses)

[balchagi]

I thought the whole ninja squad thing was silly. Garrus pretty much sums it up during the attack on the Cerberus base when he says something like it's stupid to bring a sword to a gun fight.

Garrus had the final say in my game. Kai leng had only a sliver of health left and Garrus blew him to pieces with a concussion shot. Most satisfying part of the game.

[tankarmarx]

balchagi wrote...

I thought the whole ninja squad thing was silly. Garrus pretty much sums it up during the attack on the Cerberus base when he says something like it's stupid to bring a sword to a gun fight.

Garrus had the final say in my game. Kai leng had only a sliver of health left and Garrus blew him to pieces with a concussion shot. Most satisfying part of the game.

I shanked him with the Omni Blade (both in battle and of course for the interrupt) I thought I was being clever when I did it, but Shepard just turns around and does it again lmfao.

[freakmomah]

i've seen enough asian movies, being asian myself, to see kai leng as a typical dork.

[DarthSlim108]

I thought that fight was the best scene in the game, until I killed Leng at the Cerberus base and avenged Thane. THAT was the best scene in the whole game IMO. I'm a paragon, but I'm glad I pulled the renegade trigger on that one.

[Atrabilious]

If Thane had been healthier then Kai Leng would've been just another victim in a long line of guys who thought they could handle more than they were capable of.

That being said I was not a fan of KL at all. Apparently he's better in the books. Unfortunately I haven't read them, so he just came off as a cheesy cyborg ninja complete with lack-luster attitude. Javelin V headshot sorted him out in the Cerberus base though. That and the renegade stab.

[TFulls]

leng was out of place to the point where hes part of why im disappointed in this game btw i literally cried when thane died

[overburning]

If Thane is in his ME2 state Kai Leng would have been dead without even knowing Thane was there, I mean, Thane was struggling to breath and he still sneaked up on him.

[Adamantium93]

DarthSlim108 wrote...

I thought that fight was the best scene in the game, until I killed Leng at the Cerberus base and avenged Thane. THAT was the best scene in the whole game IMO. I'm a paragon, but I'm glad I pulled the renegade trigger on that one.

so true. I will always renegade interrupt that.
The Kai Leng fight was the high point for me.
Then I got back on Earth <_<
Then I saw the endings:blink:
Then I realized there was no better ending

[Sawtooth357]

If Thane was in ME2 shape, he could have killed Kai Leng with his tea cup.

[WhooMovingTarget]

You know, of all the things with Mass Effect 3, I thought Kai Leng fit.

If you have infiltrators with an active Cloak, and the technology to make monomolecular blades that can pierce through kinetic barriers in one hit, then I totally see a resurgence in using edged weaponry, especially for highly trained troops.

After all, what better way to confirm a kill than to do it up close.

The hand blaster was a bit much but hey, a device that enhances biotics into a focused blast isnt too far of a stretch in the Mass Effect universe.

As for the dodging and flips and weird teleporting, I always saw that as more akin to EDIs decoy skill.

But hey, thats me.

[swenson]

Heh, that renegade stab. Best part of the entire game. I don't ordinarily ever swear, but you better believe I was saying it right along with Shepard.

Anyway, more on topic, I agree that Thane ordinarily could've taken down Kai Leng. He did get the drop on Kai Leng (which seems unusual for Leng, but then again this is Thane we're talking about), but still, if he were in top shape, he would've won easily.

The truth is, Shepard just isn't that great at fighting. Good enough to survive, yes. But Shepard is generally outshone by other members of his/her squad. Wrex, Thane, and Samara, at the very least, are all undeniably better. That's why Leng was a tougher fight for Shepard than he would've been for Thane in top shape.

[Arbalest7]

swenson wrote...

Heh, that renegade stab. Best part of the entire game. I don't ordinarily ever swear, but you better believe I was saying it right along with Shepard.

Anyway, more on topic, I agree that Thane ordinarily could've taken down Kai Leng. He did get the drop on Kai Leng (which seems unusual for Leng, but then again this is Thane we're talking about), but still, if he were in top shape, he would've won easily.

The truth is, Shepard just isn't that great at fighting. Good enough to survive, yes. But Shepard is generally outshone by other members of his/her squad. Wrex, Thane, and Samara, at the very least, are all undeniably better. That's why Leng was a tougher fight for Shepard than he would've been for Thane in top shape.

He wasn't a tough fight for Shepard either: First fight involved a gunship and second an entire squad of phantoms and he still got gutted like a fish.

[Myrmedus]

Yeah, I completely disagree with people saying melee weaponry would be pointless in a world with kinetic barriers if it pierces through those shields - we needed to engage the Shadow Broker in melee after all.

Also, because of the barrier he has, he can afford to go into melee. Honestly, I think it's fine, and I think the reception of Kai Leng entirely depends on whether you've read the novels or not. I only read Retribution and I enjoyed his inclusion in ME3.

As for the actual topic! Thane would win, hands down. Thane was basically having an asthma attack while fighting Leng and still gave him a run for his money.

Having said that I don't agree with the swenson about Shepard's fighting abilities, I just believe he doesn't engage in melee combat often as a soldier but it is clearly shown in the fight against Leng that Shepard kicks ass but it depends on what you do: here's a hint, it's entirely possible to not be hit a single time by Leng without running away if you position yourself correctly because as long as you are facing him when he attacks it will go into a scene and you can win every time if you want.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 12 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[Plasma Prestige]

 I was impressed, to say the least. Thane knocked that SOB to the ground, and would have finished his weak ass if KL didn't have a blade and Thane wasn't TERMINALLY ILL.

Which is why I think that Renegade interrupt at TIM's of killing KL should have been a Paragon interrupt.