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[IanPolaris]

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

[Carmen_Willow]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Will someone put all three endings right next to each other in a video with matching timestamps to finish this stupid argument?

Wouldn't that be nice?  I wish someone would tell me how to get a happier ending than the one I got.  I didn't need the angst.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

You know what, I think I have it.

EA told BioWare to make an excrement-stuffed non-closure ending in hopes of selling a fourth happy ending for DLC.
Don't you see? It is the PERFECT plan! they will make BILLIONS of dollars!

[Raltar]

IanPolaris wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

Nearly maxed?  What do you mean by that, exactly?  What was your EMS score?  Having your green bar full won't get you all of the endings.

[Sashimi_taco]

I really wish they would just SAY SOMETHING! ANYTHING! And not try to put the blame on us for not liking it though, because i know some PR ea person will say that. Nothing pisses off fans more when the company tries to make it out like it is the fan's fault for not liking it.

There really should just be a CHOICE for an ending were shepard is happy. I just don't get it. There are so many variables in the rest of the game with different endings to them, yet we only get ONE ending for the story: Shepard will never be happy.

[DOYOURLABS]

Is there any ending where Shepard is with Liara? If someone could answer definitively, I would appreciate it very much.

[Vikali]

IanPolaris wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

I gave you evidence. You ignored it. :3

[IanPolaris]

Raltar wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

Nearly maxed?  What do you mean by that, exactly?  What was your EMS score?  Having your green bar full won't get you all of the endings.

I had enough to get every listed Control ending but I did not see the difference.  I did not have enough for the "shepard lives" easter egg, but that doesn't apply to control/merge.

-Polaris

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

Is there any ending where Shepard is with Liara? If someone could answer definitively, I would appreciate it very much.

Nope, sorry.

[Xellith]

I can see Family Guy using this for a funny scene.

Peter: Gee Lois. I feel worse than when I saw the ending of Mass Effect 3

Then a scene of someone hanging themself or something. And you just read that line in peters voice in your head. You know you did.

[DOYOURLABS]

The guide mentions if I have over 5000 readiness rating and destroy the reapers, Shepard lives. Can anyone tell me what happens in that ending?

[Kastrenzo]

Can't wait until Ben Crowshaw on Zero Punctuation gets ahold of this,. For once I may be agreeing with him when he starts sh*ttalking a game that I was looking forward to for like 2 years.

[Vikali]

IanPolaris wrote...

Raltar wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

Nearly maxed?  What do you mean by that, exactly?  What was your EMS score?  Having your green bar full won't get you all of the endings.

I had enough to get every listed Control ending but I did not see the difference.  I did not have enough for the "shepard lives" easter egg, but that doesn't apply to control/merge.

-Polaris

I don't believe that. If the citadel didn't survive and the explosion scene wasn't cut, you did not have enough for that ending. Go look at the video I posted for you

[Olueq]

All endings result in your team getting stranded and shepard either dying or just barely surviving on earth. The relays are always screwed too apparently.

Modifié par Olueq, 08 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[IanPolaris]

KitePolaris wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Raltar wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I'm pretty sure StarcloudSWG is right.

Not saying she isn't, but I'd like to see evidence.  I just did all three endings this morning on an SP game that was nearly maxed, and I saw no difference (and yes I easily had enough for earth to survive).  I am also right that the relays are toast no matter what, though.

-Polaris

Nearly maxed?  What do you mean by that, exactly?  What was your EMS score?  Having your green bar full won't get you all of the endings.

I had enough to get every listed Control ending but I did not see the difference.  I did not have enough for the "shepard lives" easter egg, but that doesn't apply to control/merge.

-Polaris

I don't believe that. If the citadel didn't survive and the explosion scene wasn't cut, you did not have enough for that ending. Go look at the video I posted for you

I just replayed it.  Storm was right, the citadel did close rather than being explicitly destroyed BUT THE MASS RELAYS WERE STILL DESTROYED (and very clearly so...you can see the debris coming from them).  In any event, functionally it's the exact same ending.  THe mass relays are gone probably forever.

-Polaris

[DOYOURLABS]

So even if Shepard lives he can't be reunited with the squad?

[Vikali]

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Modifié par KitePolaris, 08 mars 2012 - 10:20 .

[IanPolaris]

KitePolaris wrote...

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Hello.  DARK AGES anyone?  No Mass Relays means the galaxy goes back to localism and tribalism and chronic shortages due to lack of trade.  Essentially you condemn the galaxy to thousands of years of barbarism unless and until the Mass Relays can be replaced....if that's even possible.

-Polaris

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

So even if Shepard lives he can't be reunited with the squad?

Yeah, I am sorry, but it is the truth. The whole of BSN are up in arms about this.

[Vikali]

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Hello.  DARK AGES anyone?  No Mass Relays means the galaxy goes back to localism and tribalism and chronic shortages due to lack of trade.  Essentially you condemn the galaxy to thousands of years of barbarism unless and until the Mass Relays can be replaced....if that's even possible.

-Polaris

FTL still exists and so it will go into a dark period. But it's hardly forever. It opens doors for soiety to get it's own bearing on its own and be independent. Ane expecially with Merge? It becomes even brighter a future that lays ahead. The relays may have exploded, but their remains are still there. That's plenty of **** to scavenge, to learn about, to try and recreate. It's not outside the realm of understanding or the Protheans would not have come so close to replicate it.

[DOYOURLABS]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

DOYOURLABS wrote...

So even if Shepard lives he can't be reunited with the squad?

Yeah, I am sorry, but it is the truth. The whole of BSN are up in arms about this.

Thanks, that was the closure I needed. I'll keep my synthesis ending. I won't be happy about it, but its better than destroying all synthetics and being stranded away from the squad. 

[IanPolaris]

KitePolaris wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Hello.  DARK AGES anyone?  No Mass Relays means the galaxy goes back to localism and tribalism and chronic shortages due to lack of trade.  Essentially you condemn the galaxy to thousands of years of barbarism unless and until the Mass Relays can be replaced....if that's even possible.

-Polaris

FTL still exists and so it will go into a dark period. But it's hardly forever. It opens doors for soiety to get it's own bearing on its own and be independent. Ane expecially with Merge? It becomes even brighter a future that lays ahead. The relays may have exploded, but their remains are still there. That's plenty of **** to scavenge, to learn about, to try and recreate. It's not outside the realm of understanding or the Protheans would not have come so close to replicate it.

You don't know that FTL exists and there is (at least for destroy) considerable circumstantial evidence that it doesn't.  Even if it did, there is no guarantee that the Mass Relays can even be replaced or rebuilt because NO ONE other than the Protheans (and all those records were destroyed) had any concept of the fundamental physics behind Mass Effect and the Mass Effect relays.

In any event it means the end of the Mass Effect Universe as a sci-fi universe, and thus the effective end of the franchise and in such a way to make all our investment in the game pointless, and for a game that's supposed to be about choice, this is nothing short of criminal.

-Polaris

[Vikali]

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Hello.  DARK AGES anyone?  No Mass Relays means the galaxy goes back to localism and tribalism and chronic shortages due to lack of trade.  Essentially you condemn the galaxy to thousands of years of barbarism unless and until the Mass Relays can be replaced....if that's even possible.

-Polaris

FTL still exists and so it will go into a dark period. But it's hardly forever. It opens doors for soiety to get it's own bearing on its own and be independent. Ane expecially with Merge? It becomes even brighter a future that lays ahead. The relays may have exploded, but their remains are still there. That's plenty of **** to scavenge, to learn about, to try and recreate. It's not outside the realm of understanding or the Protheans would not have come so close to replicate it.

You don't know that FTL exists and there is (at least for destroy) considerable circumstantial evidence that it doesn't.  Even if it did, there is no guarantee that the Mass Relays can even be replaced or rebuilt because NO ONE other than the Protheans (and all those records were destroyed) had any concept of the fundamental physics behind Mass Effect and the Mass Effect relays.

In any event it means the end of the Mass Effect Universe as a sci-fi universe, and thus the effective end of the franchise and in such a way to make all our investment in the game pointless, and for a game that's supposed to be about choice, this is nothing short of criminal.

-Polaris

You see, but that's not true. We don't know that the relays hadn't been studied or that there weren't individuals who lacked any sort of comprehension about their inner workings. If that were true, there wouldn't be people interested in constructing more in the first place. It was not beyond the realm of understanding. We just know the society as a whole didn't give a damn. Also, it was my understanding fromt he guide the save the galaxy ending was merge, not destroy.

There is much more to the universe than what we follow in game, and even in the books. And it seems a lot of assumptions are beng made in this doom and gloom mindset.

[DOYOURLABS]

If I wasn't so emotionally attached to the characters, and hadn't been hoping since Mass Effect 1 for my Shepard's perfect ending with Liara, I would have loved the synthesis ending. It was beautifully done. But it was such a bad move by BioWare since much of their core audience loves them for their characters.

[IanPolaris]

KitePolaris wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

KitePolaris wrote...

I dont understand this perspective where the relays not surviving is a bad thing. It's positive for the future of galactic society. gO speak to Atheyta again.

Hello.  DARK AGES anyone?  No Mass Relays means the galaxy goes back to localism and tribalism and chronic shortages due to lack of trade.  Essentially you condemn the galaxy to thousands of years of barbarism unless and until the Mass Relays can be replaced....if that's even possible.

-Polaris

FTL still exists and so it will go into a dark period. But it's hardly forever. It opens doors for soiety to get it's own bearing on its own and be independent. Ane expecially with Merge? It becomes even brighter a future that lays ahead. The relays may have exploded, but their remains are still there. That's plenty of **** to scavenge, to learn about, to try and recreate. It's not outside the realm of understanding or the Protheans would not have come so close to replicate it.

You don't know that FTL exists and there is (at least for destroy) considerable circumstantial evidence that it doesn't.  Even if it did, there is no guarantee that the Mass Relays can even be replaced or rebuilt because NO ONE other than the Protheans (and all those records were destroyed) had any concept of the fundamental physics behind Mass Effect and the Mass Effect relays.

In any event it means the end of the Mass Effect Universe as a sci-fi universe, and thus the effective end of the franchise and in such a way to make all our investment in the game pointless, and for a game that's supposed to be about choice, this is nothing short of criminal.

-Polaris

You see, but that's not true. We don't know that the relays hadn't been studied or that there weren't individuals who lacked any sort of comprehension about their inner workings. If that were true, there wouldn't be people interested in constructing more in the first place. It was not beyond the realm of understanding. We just know the society as a whole didn't give a damn. Also, it was my understanding fromt he guide the save the galaxy ending was merge, not destroy.

There is much more to the universe than what we follow in game, and even in the books. And it seems a lot of assumptions are beng made in this doom and gloom mindset.

Nope.  You are the ones making assumptions starting with the assumption that FTL of any sort still works (and there is strong circumstantial evidence that at least for the destroy ending it does not).  Even if it did, without the Mass Relays there IS NO MASS EFFECT UNIVERSE and it's done in such a way to make all the hours about worrying about self determination and choice be absolutely pointless.  This is a cardinal sin for a franchise that 's supposed to be about choice.  You can not excuse this horrible ending (singular).

-Polaris