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Thunderfox

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So I'm in the Landsmeet right now.

Was I the only one disappointed with how Ser Cauthrien was handled? When I first saw her in the cut-scene of Loghain's retreat at  Ostagar, I thought she might end up turning against him. But it seems she either drank the kool-aid or her sense of honor is too much to do anything other than say he maybe killed king Cailan.

Plus shes hot, though she does drop a nice sword

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You can persuade or intimidate her to stand aside when she faces you at Landsmeet.

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dannythefool

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Plus she actually gives a convincing impression of "You are right, I was blind" if you do that.

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Thunderfox

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Hm. Good to know, Guess I either didn;t get far enough in the convo, or was just too tired and missed the (Intimate) (Persuade)



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Thunderfox

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Hm. Good to know, Guess I either didn;t get far enough in the convo, or was just too tired and missed the (Intimate) (Persuade)



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JamieCOTC

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I really like this character, but she is so unbearably underused.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

I really like this character, but she is so unbearably underused.


I couldn't bear it if she was used more honestly, she comes across as a complete zealot/sycophant for Loghain. Her attitude and general superiority issues made me forgo the persuade option (I could've easily convinced her to stand down) because I really just wanted the satisfaction of lopping her head off in the end.

Call me spiteful but I can't stand the characters that were actually at Ostagar and still bought into Loghain's lies. 

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the reason is that Ser Cautherine indicates that Loghain saved her life. She has a knight's sense of honour, and that is why she listens to him, because she knows she owes her this debt.



The lines she gives if you convince her to allow you to step into the landsmeet is really well said. It shows how difficult it was for her to say that Loghain must be stopped, since she probably felt like she was backstabbing her savior.

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I agree, it's easy to judge when you aren't in her shoes. She did come off haughty when we first met, and I did want to rip her head off at that moment because I despise all such people, but in the end she showed some sense so I let her go. My new evil mage, however...

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I assumed she was in love with Loghain. *shrugs* Or at any rate, that she obviously had an intense feeling of personal loyalty towards him, such as he claims to have had for the Maric.

Modifié par Colenda, 26 novembre 2009 - 07:31 .


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Akka le Vil

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I like her somehow, but honestly, being lectured about honour and duty by the one who actually saw first-hand the treason of Loghain was really pushing it.

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I thought she was underused, I also think it is a shame you can't have her join the party after the landsmeet like you can Loghain. Either if you have him executed or not, she would make a great party member, although that would of course bring the warrior party members to six so I can in some respects understand why. Though variety is the spice of life. Would certainly be interesting to hear conversations between her and Sten, what with the Qunari attitude to female fighters hehe

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First time, I surrendered to her, as much because I was unsure I could take on the odds in the encounter as anything. Second time, I have to admit my blood was up, as I'd played the Human Nobel origin I'd just killed Howe and figuratively hacked his head off and I wasn't about to take crap from the lackey of a traitor like Loghain. I was only disappointed I couldn't call her a total and utter coward before I left her intestines all over the Arl of Denerim's welcome mat.

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I feel the same way about her as about Howe. You don't get a lot of interaction and they seem like they could be much more.

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Riot Inducer wrote...

I couldn't bear it if she was used more honestly, she comes across as a complete zealot/sycophant for Loghain. Her attitude and general superiority issues made me forgo the persuade option (I could've easily convinced her to stand down) because I really just wanted the satisfaction of lopping her head off in the end.

Call me spiteful but I can't stand the characters that were actually at Ostagar and still bought into Loghain's lies. 


LOL I have to agree with you completely here. By the time I got to that point, I just wanted to dish out some punishment to those that so fanatically served loghain.
After objecting to the retreat, I was disappointed to see her stay with loghain and even become his fanatical attack dog.

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I enjoyed killing her when she attempted to arrest me for "Howe's murder". I will go that route every play thru now.

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I wish she had a bigger part in the game. We don't even get to meet her till near the end.



She could have been a companion who would give us a more positive perspective on Loghain. Or a point of contact with Loghain during the mid game.










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Akka le Vil wrote...

I like her somehow, but honestly, being lectured about honour and duty by the one who actually saw first-hand the treason of Loghain was really pushing it.


<_< Seriously, she had a lot of nerve. I wished I could have said something more to her after she gave me that "You're speaking to your betters" line. I wanted the option to interrupt and give her a piece of my mind.

It would have been cool if when you choose to fight back when she tries to arrest you, she tries to talk to you right when her health is almost gone (like what sometimes happens with other fights). You could get the option to spare her, gloat, mock her, taunt her, etc, muahah. :devil:

Sorry I just really didn't like it when she snapped at me about 'my betters'.

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The things i would do to her,if she was a romance option.According to me,she has a shortage of something.It's about time she tasted a sword of fleshImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB

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Akka le Vil wrote...

I like her somehow, but honestly, being lectured about honour and duty by the one who actually saw first-hand the treason of Loghain was really pushing it.


And how!
Oh my second play through I had max persuasion and managed to get her to stand down.  Just wasn't as satisfiying after that 'your betters are speaking' comment, so I reloaded and picked a fight instead.

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She was Lisa Cuddy to Loghains Greg House.

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Thorn of the Dead Gods to the stomach and a Starfang lopping off her head showed her that blind Honor to tyrants is not a wise move in the presence of the hand of Justice.

Modifié par SpideyKnight, 27 novembre 2009 - 02:09 .


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Minxie18 wrote...

Akka le Vil wrote...

I like her somehow, but honestly, being lectured about honour and duty by the one who actually saw first-hand the treason of Loghain was really pushing it.


<_< Seriously, she had a lot of nerve. I wished I could have said something more to her after she gave me that "You're speaking to your betters" line. I wanted the option to interrupt and give her a piece of my mind.

It would have been cool if when you choose to fight back when she tries to arrest you, she tries to talk to you right when her health is almost gone (like what sometimes happens with other fights). You could get the option to spare her, gloat, mock her, taunt her, etc, muahah. :devil:

Sorry I just really didn't like it when she snapped at me about 'my betters'.


Yes she comes across as either wilfully blind or a hypocrite.
I also thought it a bit cheeky of her to use the "your betters" line - especially as playing a Human Noble.  Technically at that point in the game you would have the rank of Tyern (despite Howe's snuffing out of your parents).  First play through I was happy to lop off her head, but on subsequent playthroughs I have talked her down before the Landsmeet.
She's underutilised I think - she should have been given some part in the Denerim battle, maybe even some sort of sacrifice to redeem herself and her misplaced honour?  I dunno.

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Stuffy38 wrote...
I also thought it a bit cheeky of her to use the "your betters" line - especially as playing a Human Noble.  Technically at that point in the game you would have the rank of Tyern (despite Howe's snuffing out of your parents). 

Yes! My first playthrough was as a human noble and when she gave me that line I was thinking: "...Excuuuuse me? Oh this is not gonna fly." :lol:

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As a side note, if you kill her, loot her, then go down to her archers you get her sword, its codex entry and her alive at Landsmeet. I guess she was only mostly dead.