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[Pamine]

I think most of us agree that the ending was bad, so I decided to think of what I would have done instead.

When Shepard arrives at the top of the Citadel, he finds the Illusive Man holding an injured Anderson hostage, in front of the console of an ancient looking machine. He yells at you that you were wrong this whole time, and points at the machine saying that's clearly the master control for controlling the Reapers. You and Anderson tries to argue with him, saying that he's wrong, and even if so, there's no way to reliably control the Reapers. He gets angry, and at the end of the conversation, seeing that he was about to shoot at Shepard, Anderson tries to wrestle him to the ground. Then, if you have enough reputation, you get an interrupt where you can shoot at TIM and kill him, otherwise TIM shoots Anderson just as he pushes TIM off the platform to his death.

You rush to Anderson and find him critically wounded. If you had enough prepareness, then he wasn't that injured and makes it. Otherwise, or if TIM shot him, then he dies. You then go to the ancient machine just as Hacket reminds you by comm that the crucible isn't firing. As you get there, Avina pops up and greets you to the central control of the Citadel. That's when you can investigate and learn everything.

Avina tells you that she is not who she appears to be. She is in fact a very ancient AI that's been posing as a VI so she could keep an eye on how things evolved in the galaxy. She was created by the very first civilized race in the galaxy, the race that also created the reapers, millions of years ago. The reapers then became self aware and rebelled, wiping the galaxy off, removing the 'chaos' and bringing order. She doesn't actually control them, just watches, and the crucible was first invented as a way to take back control over the reapers, but as the cycles went on, its purpose was alternated over and over between a control device and a weapon to destroy them, but no civilization ever managed to complete it, until now.

Avina explains that even though you gathered all the pieces, she can't allow you to break the cycle since all species would be doomed to repeat the same mistake if they were allowed to continue. And this is where your paragon/renegade status comes in. If you have neither high enough, your only choice is to agree. The game ends with you standing on the top of the citadel, looking defeated, as the Earth and other planets are shown getting ravaged by the Reapers. All the major planets are shown devastated and in ruins.

If your renegade level is high enough, you have the choice to convince Avina that you can control the reapers. She agrees and then vanishes in an impressive visual effect, then the weapon fires and the beam touches everywhere, and you're shown with your hands on the controls, energy rushing into you, giving you immense powers, but then something goes wrong. The beam spares the reapers, but starts to destroy the Earth and other planets, killing everyone. At the end, you're shown standing at the top of the citadel, energy surrounding you, looking scarred like TIM was, but driven mad with power. All the reapers are in space around the citadel, idle, awaiting your command, as the Earth lays destroyed underneath. If you saved the Geth they are there too. Shoulda learned from TIM's mistake...

If your paragon level is high enough, you have the choice to convince Avina that humans and other species can take care of themselves, and that the cycle needs to end. She agrees, and vanishes in VFX, then the beam fires. All the reapers get destroyed, and people rejoice. The game ends showing you limping through various military vehicles on Earth, with people taking care of the wounded, and your LI rushes to hug you, while other crew members applaud. The various planets are shown with people cheering. The very last scene shows a single reaper at the edge of the galaxy running away.

The canon ending would be the paragon one, and in a future DLC you receive an urgent call from Wrex/whoever replaced him saying that he has to have a word with you about a certain cure that didn't work.....

[Aesieru]

Paragon and Renegade do not equal evil / human centric / good / best.

Until people understand that... there can't be designed endings.

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Also Avina was made by the Asari.

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Also the Reapers didn't rebel, it would be stupid if it was just another "Rebelled AI" thing, as that would in no way be difficult or impossible for us to comprehend. Sorry but that ending seems extremely lame.

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Also since most people brought their LI with them on the final mission if they even had a love interest, the beam kills that person and your other squad mate, or at least it should have outside of teleporting your squad to the Normandy.

Modifié par Aesieru, 08 mars 2012 - 10:24 .

[Pamine]

Just like the Asari made all their technology and didn't instead get all their ideas from that Prothean beacon? Very easy to say that they didn't actually make her, just found her and gave her this figure.

As for the reapers rebelling not being possible, what else could it be? They can't actually be "infinite" like they claim that's just silly, and telling us that they rebelled is actually better than not giving us any explanation at all.

And I know paragon/renegade isn't good/evil, but this would fit. As a renegade you believe that controlling the Reapers would help in the ultimate goal, but the game would tell us that's not a good way to view things by making the beam malfunction. After all, if you recall in ME2, the renegade answers were = to agreeing with TIM.

Modifié par Pamine, 08 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[Aesieru]

Pamine wrote...

Just like the Asari made all their technology and didn't instead get all their ideas from that Prothean beacon? Very easy to say that they didn't actually make her, just found her and gave her this figure.

As for the reapers rebelling not being possible, what else could it be? They can't actually be "infinite" like they claim that's just silly, and telling us that they rebelled is actually better than not giving us any explanation at all.

And I know paragon/renegade isn't good/evil, but this would fit. As a renegade you believe that controlling the Reapers would help in the ultimate goal, but the game would tell us that's not a good way to view things by making the beam malfunction. After all, if you recall in ME2, the renegade answers were = to agreeing with TIM.

It was very clearly indicated that the Asari didn't make the Citadel or anything but they did make Avina.

Sorry but as a renegade it just means you're willing to do what's necessary to get the job done, the entire time you're talking about destroying the Reapers, killing EDI and the Geth as a part of it is "getting the job done" and a necessary sacrifice.

Renegade would not suddenly bea ll "hahaha infinite power" you'd be insulting the player and the style of choicing throughout the entire series if you made it like that. And renegade rarely agreed with the Illusive Man, only a few times did it and only in pointed conversations.

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The Reapers destroying all intelligent life so as to prevent society from creating AI's that would render society eradicated is something that is difficult for Humanity to comprehend, that is why they are like that.