Why do you want a happy ending?
#1
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:12
#2
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:13
#3
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:15
In anycase, the fact that Mass Effect 3 managed to leave a tangible dark theme throughout saves it for me. Can't wait to continue the franchise.
#4
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:15
#5
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:15
oh and the normandy somehow having all my crew even ones on the ground flying through the relay system and getting blown out of the sky was just stupid (how did they get on the ship and why was joker fleeing the battle?)
Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 08 mars 2012 - 11:16 .
#6
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:16
My problem is that the endings reek of poor writing, make a lot of the choices we took meaningless, and are really not at all that different from one another. I'd have been fine with these endings if thye added more variation, like the relays not always getting destroyed, and so on. You know, give me incentive to actually play the game again to see if I can't get something different.
Modifié par Nyaore, 08 mars 2012 - 11:18 .
#7
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:16
One of the important parts of storytelling is having an ending that wraps up all the pieces, and this one doesn't wrap them up - it just cuts them all off.
#8
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:17
#9
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:18
In the end, the fact that Mass Effect 3 managed to leave a dark taste in my mouth is a point for it in my book. Just wish it could have been done with less unexplained plotholes. I don't think a happy ending would have done the series justice..
#10
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:18
There's some confusion, as well, as to whether or not the relays blew up the systems they are in. Which, if true (I don't think it is), would be a pretty catastrophic ending.
#11
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:24
Because I want my hero to have a reward for his/her good deeds.
Because real life is sad enough with all the people who die and leave.
Because I want to believe, at least for awhile, that the future will be better for my species, not worse.
Because the stories I heard as a child always ended with "and they lived happily ever after."
Because I didn't pay all that money to cry--and not in a good way--at the end of the story.
#12
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Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:25
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#13
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:26
How happy it is is the last of our worries.
#14
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:28
He stayed faithful to his loved ones.
He never changed his beliefs
He, as someone who had power, stood up for the little guy.
He, even when battered and broken, physically and mentally he did what he had to do because, and I quote Garrus here "Was born to do this"
#15
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:28
I would be cool with the Synergy ending with some more explanation and nice good bye to the crew before it all goes down or afterwards maybe not blowing up the relays in the process. In end we get an ending that is same no matter the choice...
#16
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:29
#17
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:30
IronHam wrote...
I would have liked a better executed ending, with an actual epilogue. That's all I really want, I've accepted the ending, and the inherent sadness in it, and the destruction of the mass relays, and the gravity of Shepard's decision and possible consequences. Just feel like it could have been done better...
In anycase, the fact that Mass Effect 3 managed to leave a tangible dark theme throughout saves it for me. Can't wait to continue the franchise.
This, basically. I can deal with Shepard sacrificing him/herself to save the civilizations of the galaxy. But the people we were doing this for... They're left as nothing but a mystery after everything that we've done. We're emotionally invested in these characters, but they don't get any chance to show what it is that we fought to save making it through.
#18
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:30
#19
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:32
P_sutherland wrote...
because the current 3 are ****
This.No matter what i do in ME1 ME2 ME3 the choices will be the sameat the end .At least with a happy ending you could have found out what happened if you romanced different people and your other choices would be told.
#20
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:34
Modifié par TheShinySword, 08 mars 2012 - 11:34 .
#21
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:35
I've posted this before, but it bears rrelevance to your post.TheShinySword wrote...
I came into the game fully prepared that my Shepard would probably die. But I didn't think everything I fought for and sacrificed would be made pointless by a last minute multiple choice question. Mass Effect 1 and 2 set up what could have been a truly great story, by any medium's standard, Mass Effect 3 did so well, until the very end ruined it. That's why I'm upset, because this wasn't what we were promised and it goes against what 1 and 2 established, your choices matter. Apparently you didn't have to do a single thing extra because in the end the little boy in the sky will make you choose the same three things regardless and all your friends are doomed one way or the other.
When I can rush through the previous games not taking into consideration who or what i screw over. Not giving a damn about helping people unite the galaxy. Not having to even remotely think about what choices I make. and reach the SAME THREE ENDINGS as someone who took their time preparing. Took their time to be emotionally invested in their characters. To actually CARE about how they are going to save the galaxy I find it insulting.
I honestly feel disgusted at the treatment that was shown to the ending. The hard work that EVERYONE did on this game. The long nights, the long hours away from loved ones. The programmers, the marketers, each and every person who worked on ANY of the Mass Effect games to have their Opus, their jewel in the Bioware Crown be tarnished by this sort of ending. The writing up until the last 10 minutes of the game was some of the finest I'd ever had the privilege of seeing.
From Mordin singing to himself as he worked to finish the cure. The tremble in his voice from knowing he is going to die, but doing it anyways to save the race that he, himself, worked on to sterilize. All the way to Thane saying a prayer, not for himself, but for you, for Shepard, knowing that (s)he needs it more than he does.
Everything about this game was beautiful. I can handle the small bugs, I can handle the slightly annoying scanning. But watching the ending unravel as it did. No, I do not accept that. Too many people worked too hard on this game to have it be tarnished by those endings.
#22
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Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:36
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Modifié par Prince_Valiant, 08 mars 2012 - 11:36 .
#23
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:39
Golferguy758 wrote...
I've posted this before, but it bears rrelevance to your post.TheShinySword wrote...
I came into the game fully prepared that my Shepard would probably die. But I didn't think everything I fought for and sacrificed would be made pointless by a last minute multiple choice question. Mass Effect 1 and 2 set up what could have been a truly great story, by any medium's standard, Mass Effect 3 did so well, until the very end ruined it. That's why I'm upset, because this wasn't what we were promised and it goes against what 1 and 2 established, your choices matter. Apparently you didn't have to do a single thing extra because in the end the little boy in the sky will make you choose the same three things regardless and all your friends are doomed one way or the other.
When I can rush through the previous games not taking into consideration who or what i screw over. Not giving a damn about helping people unite the galaxy. Not having to even remotely think about what choices I make. and reach the SAME THREE ENDINGS as someone who took their time preparing. Took their time to be emotionally invested in their characters. To actually CARE about how they are going to save the galaxy I find it insulting.
I honestly feel disgusted at the treatment that was shown to the ending. The hard work that EVERYONE did on this game. The long nights, the long hours away from loved ones. The programmers, the marketers, each and every person who worked on ANY of the Mass Effect games to have their Opus, their jewel in the Bioware Crown be tarnished by this sort of ending. The writing up until the last 10 minutes of the game was some of the finest I'd ever had the privilege of seeing.
From Mordin singing to himself as he worked to finish the cure. The tremble in his voice from knowing he is going to die, but doing it anyways to save the race that he, himself, worked on to sterilize. All the way to Thane saying a prayer, not for himself, but for you, for Shepard, knowing that (s)he needs it more than he does.
Everything about this game was beautiful. I can handle the small bugs, I can handle the slightly annoying scanning. But watching the ending unravel as it did. No, I do not accept that. Too many people worked too hard on this game to have it be tarnished by those endings.
Brilliant. And no, I do not need a 'happy' ending. We all expected an ending with Shepherd sacrificing himself in some way (or, even more difficult, sacrificing the ones he loved--this would have been so much more poignant, tear jerking, beautiful, and difficult--to save humanity and all the galaxy). Instead, we're presented with three different flavors of an ultimate victory for the Reapers.
#24
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:40
#25
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:46
Golferguy758 wrote...
I've posted this before, but it bears rrelevance to your post.TheShinySword wrote...
I came into the game fully prepared that my Shepard would probably die. But I didn't think everything I fought for and sacrificed would be made pointless by a last minute multiple choice question. Mass Effect 1 and 2 set up what could have been a truly great story, by any medium's standard, Mass Effect 3 did so well, until the very end ruined it. That's why I'm upset, because this wasn't what we were promised and it goes against what 1 and 2 established, your choices matter. Apparently you didn't have to do a single thing extra because in the end the little boy in the sky will make you choose the same three things regardless and all your friends are doomed one way or the other.
When I can rush through the previous games not taking into consideration who or what i screw over. Not giving a damn about helping people unite the galaxy. Not having to even remotely think about what choices I make. and reach the SAME THREE ENDINGS as someone who took their time preparing. Took their time to be emotionally invested in their characters. To actually CARE about how they are going to save the galaxy I find it insulting.
I honestly feel disgusted at the treatment that was shown to the ending. The hard work that EVERYONE did on this game. The long nights, the long hours away from loved ones. The programmers, the marketers, each and every person who worked on ANY of the Mass Effect games to have their Opus, their jewel in the Bioware Crown be tarnished by this sort of ending. The writing up until the last 10 minutes of the game was some of the finest I'd ever had the privilege of seeing.
From Mordin singing to himself as he worked to finish the cure. The tremble in his voice from knowing he is going to die, but doing it anyways to save the race that he, himself, worked on to sterilize. All the way to Thane saying a prayer, not for himself, but for you, for Shepard, knowing that (s)he needs it more than he does.
Everything about this game was beautiful. I can handle the small bugs, I can handle the slightly annoying scanning. But watching the ending unravel as it did. No, I do not accept that. Too many people worked too hard on this game to have it be tarnished by those endings.
Free beer for you here. As it is, only the Mass Effect games have been extensively played compared to my 50+ games in my library, and I'm ****ing bitter considering I have 14 Shepards and 30+ files available.





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