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[Warhawk7137]

Are either the quantum entanglement device on the Normandy, or the associated quantum entanglement device Anderson uses on earth to communicate with the Normandy, explicitly stated to have been destroyed at any point?

[Ivikatasha]

Nope.

[Warhawk7137]

Ivikatasha wrote...

Nope.

Interesting.

Very interesting.

I wonder what kind of power requirement one of those has.

Modifié par Warhawk7137, 09 mars 2012 - 12:16 .

[Golferguy758]

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

[Cuddlezarro]

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

[Warhawk7137]

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

It's possible, but I find it unlikely - I figured it would be more likely the reapers would have gotten to it.  From what I know and have seen about the endings, the impression I got was that the relays blowing in ME3 was a different order of magnitude than the relay that was destroyed in Arrival (i.e., Arrival was a massive kinetic impact that caused a supernova, while the relays blowing in ME3 was more of an overload that cause a system/structural failure).

[Golferguy758]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

In which case look at all the falling ships crashing into the earth, some easily two kilometers in length. Yay nuclear winter.


Sorry, I'm a little bitter.

[Eterna]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

[Warhawk7137]

Well, I'm just speculating anyway. Just saying, if neither one is explicitly stated (or clearly implied - the relays blowing doesn't come close to meeting that standard) to have been destroyed, then there's kind of a massive gaping hole in the "Normandy is lost forever" theory.

[Cuddlezarro]

Eterna5 wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

I know but it should have considering arrival showed what happens to an exploding mass relay (read:supernova)

[Warhawk7137]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

I know but it should have considering arrival showed what happens to an exploding mass relay (read:supernova)

Strictly speaking, it showed what happens to an exploding mass relay when it's hit straight-on by an even larger asteroid - not what happens to an exploding mass relay when it's hit by a power surge and overloaded.

[Golferguy758]

Eterna5 wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

Arrival clearly states it does. 
 This proves true when during Arrival, a large asteroid is purposely steered into the Bahak system's Alpha Relay. The resulting impact tears apart the relay, causing an explosion which annihilates the Bahak system and kills its more than 300,000 inhabitants. 

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Mass_Relay 

[AlphaJarmel]

Golferguy758 wrote...


Arrival clearly states it does. 
[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)"> ] system's [/color]Alpha Relay. The resulting impact tears apart the relay, causing an explosion which annihilates the Bahak system and kills its more than 300,000 inhabitants. 

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Mass_Relay 

Controlled internal explosion in this case?

[Dead Shizno]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

Arrival clearly states it does. 
[color=rgb(255,255,255)"> ] system's [/color]Alpha Relay. The resulting impact tears apart the relay, causing an explosion which annihilates the Bahak system and kills its more than 300,000 inhabitants. 

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Mass_Relay 

there is a diffrence in what happens with the arrival relay and the others at the end of me3 in arrival the energy has no place to go and blows up killing every thing in the end it shoots the energy out making a wave to kill a targeted energy pateren then it sends the rest of the energy back into the relay to be sent out to the rest of the network but it makes the relays lose power and fall apart.

Think of the energy wave they used in stargate sg1 to take out the replacators in how it only targeted one lifeform and not the others prettym uch

[Vikali]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

One on Earth would be presumed destroyed due to the relay exploding. imo anyways.

i did think about the relay exploding but it is possible that it didnt cause a supernova because it ran out of engery after the crucible is fired... because the shepard alive ending makes the ending make even less sense otherwise

 The relays exploding doesn't destroy the star system it's in. 

Arrival clearly states it does. 
[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)"> ] system's [/color]Alpha Relay. The resulting impact tears apart the relay, causing an explosion which annihilates the Bahak system and kills its more than 300,000 inhabitants. 

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Mass_Relay 

It's not the same situation. The relay didn't overload in Arrival.

[Golferguy758]

Sure didn't seem controlled when the explosion's radius were larger than the system that each of the relays were in to me. But regardless. meh.

[Vikali]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Sure didn't seem controlled when the explosion's radius were larger than the system that each of the relays were in to me. But regardless. meh.

That was the energy spreading across the galaxy.

[Warhawk7137]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...


Arrival clearly states it does. 
[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)"> ] system's [/color]Alpha Relay. The resulting impact tears apart the relay, causing an explosion which annihilates the Bahak system and kills its more than 300,000 inhabitants. 

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Mass_Relay 

Controlled internal explosion in this case?

Or it would make sense if a lot of the energy contained in the relay was expended in the process of firing off whatever it is the crucible is sending out.

In any case, important to remember that Eezo =/= power.  It's just manipulated using power.  Which means there's some other form of power production in the relays, and I don't know what it is.  We know relays can lie dormant, so obviously there has to be a way to shut off that power without causing a supernova - the question then remains what exactly the crucible does to that power source.

[Warhawk7137]

Anyone else think this is an interesting idea?

[raeting]

Could be interesting, yeah.

And the Shepard alive thing proves the relays don't blow up the star system. They are spreading the energy that destroys/controls reapers, or performs synthesis. Depending on your choice. Shepard is show, alive and on Earth, after the Charon relay explodes. If it were the same event as Arrival, Earth would be gone.

But, yes, they should have done a better job showing this is the case given everyone is familiar with Arrival. Maybe show the relay blowing up in a system without destroying it.

Modifié par raeting, 09 mars 2012 - 01:24 .