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[Tazzmission]

Tyloric wrote...

I really liked the endings.

I really should stop coming to the Bioware forums; I'm always in the minority of things when I do. D:

And I thought the little scene after the credits was sweet, too. I remain excited for future installments in this universe.

glad to see im not the only one who shares the same likeing

[zenoxis]

KitePolaris wrote...

Tyloric wrote...

I really liked the endings.

I really should stop coming to the Bioware forums; I'm always in the minority of things when I do. D:

And I thought the little scene after the credits was sweet, too. I remain excited for future installments in this universe.

Be thankful you're in the minority. Most people here wanted Disney in Space.

I'm sorry is that a bad thing? This is a sci-fi FANTASY. You can rag on about how life is unfair, cruel, etc., etc., and that makes it realistic and whatever but the fact of the matter is since life can be such a downer, people need these kinds of stories with happy endings to know there's some good out there in the world. These endings with me like with everyone else made me incredibly disappointed and frankly, why shouldn't we be? 

Bioware certainly has the right to make a bad ending much like this one, but they also promised more than that and didn't bother to deliver. I say didn't bother because if you look at all 3 endings, it's clear they poured most of their effort into those 3 depressing versions of the same ending.

Modifié par zenoxis, 09 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[Lexagg]

KitePolaris wrote...

Be thankful you're in the minority. Most people here wanted Disney in Space.

Apparently some people can't read or comprehend english language, yet seem to be able to write it. A mystery.

[Golferguy758]

Pretty sure most people wanted the choice, you know that thing that was touted as being central to what Mass Effect 3 was going to be, of a "Disney Ending". They wanted to be able to lose to the reapers due to their action or inaction.

Hell, when my Shepard was talking to Liara and she mentioned just flying off to a corner of the galaxy and just letting things happen so they could spend their last days in peace. I legitimately thought there would be an option to comment on that saying that maybe it wasn't such a bad idea.

With all the problems in the world why do you and others want to bring that into a game as the only options? People understand that war is hell and sacrifice is necessary, bad things happen to good people. Everyone gets that, but to eliminate the hope of having that happy ending. The removal of your control to achieve what you wanted to happen to your Shepard is pretty...dirty in my eyes.

Regardless, you have your opinion just as others have theirs. Different strokes after all.

[Invisibilly]

 I couldnt agree more. Its like the ending sucked all the joy i had for this universe. 

[HairyMadDog1010]

just do some fan fiction.

For instance my happy ending involves my paragon male shep who survived.
My shep captined a large colonization ship that was sent out at FTl to find a new habitable planet close to earth. After a 8 or months they find the normady planet( On this Ff that planet was already colonized when the normady hit it, and the grandfather kid dialogue hapend a few months after the relays blew). it ends with my shep reuniting with Ash and their new born baby. See a happy ending is easy.

Modifié par HairyMadDog1010, 09 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[Axelstall]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Pretty sure most people wanted the choice, you know that thing that was touted as being central to what Mass Effect 3 was going to be, of a "Disney Ending". They wanted to be able to lose to the reapers due to their action or inaction.

Hell, when my Shepard was talking to Liara and she mentioned just flying off to a corner of the galaxy and just letting things happen so they could spend their last days in peace. I legitimately thought there would be an option to comment on that saying that maybe it wasn't such a bad idea.

With all the problems in the world why do you and others want to bring that into a game as the only options? People understand that war is hell and sacrifice is necessary, bad things happen to good people. Everyone gets that, but to eliminate the hope of having that happy ending. The removal of your control to achieve what you wanted to happen to your Shepard is pretty...dirty in my eyes.

Regardless, you have your opinion just as others have theirs. Different strokes after all.

I get it. But don't know how to put it into words that I do...
The no happy ending option ticked me off but hey, they made the game.

[AdmiralCheez]

balmyrian wrote...

I'm pretty much amazed at how bad I've been feeling about this since completing the game yesterday. Some sort of very unpleasant knot in the chest. It's nasty.

And that's the problem.

I think Bioware accidentally triggered a lot of unpleasant emotions in people.  It speaks to ME3's power that it can make people feel real, actual grief, but should videogames be allowed to do that?

And even if they are allowed, they shouldn't half-ass it like ME3 did.  I mean, come on, where's the closure?

And who the hell decided to put that playable dream sequence in near the beginning?

[Kastien]

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

I have been gaming my entire life and I have to say the ME3 ending was the most dissapointing thing I have witnessed not just in video games but in any piece of entertainment. When it was over I sat there in awe at its awfulness knowing that I had no closure and that none of my decisions from all past games and even ME3 made any difference. It literally pained me after having played the ending, even now I'm walking around the house in a depressed state unable to comprehend how such a mess of an ending could have been aprroved. Note as countless others have stated I'm not looking for a happy ending I just want closure, I would have even been fine if EVERYONE died, but we saw some future civilization recover our warnings.

But with this ending there was no closure, no difference between the endings, no decisions that affected the outcome, and none of the choices lined up with the themes presented throughout the game. Ronald Moore stated that when writing the end for BSG after trying to figure out a way to tie everything up and answer every question he realized that was not the purpose of the show and wrote on the writers board room "It's about the characters stupid". I feel as if the ME writers forgot about this when writing the ending. The entire ME trilogy has ALWAYS been about the characters and the people you interact with, even in ME3 all throughtout the game it is about the characters and their feelings and relationships. But when we reach the ending the whole personal drama built around the characters is dropped for an ending that leaves us with no resolution or glimpse into their future. And ultimately the end of the Mass Effect universe as we know it.

I don't care what you have to do BioWare, a patch, a DLC, whatever I will even pay for it, but please fix this mess of an ending and give us some resolution. We have all followed this franchise for over 5 years we deserve some closure.

All of this is absolutely correct.

[SolidisusSnake1]

balmyrian wrote...

I'm pretty much amazed at how bad I've been feeling about this since completing the game yesterday. Some sort of very unpleasant knot in the chest. It's nasty.

Same here never has a piece of media left me with such an uneasy feeling in my chest, like I say in the title it "pshysically" hurts me how bad the ending was. I felt sick.

[balmyrian]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

balmyrian wrote...

I'm pretty much amazed at how bad I've been feeling about this since completing the game yesterday. Some sort of very unpleasant knot in the chest. It's nasty.

And that's the problem.

I think Bioware accidentally triggered a lot of unpleasant emotions in people.  It speaks to ME3's power that it can make people feel real, actual grief, but should videogames be allowed to do that?

And even if they are allowed, they shouldn't half-ass it like ME3 did.  I mean, come on, where's the closure?

And who the hell decided to put that playable dream sequence in near the beginning?

Exactly. I'm open to nasty stuff that stirs you the wrong way, but in proper and responsible storytelling it's just a part of the rollercoaster, then you get a cathartic climax that feels all the more powerful.

It doesn't have to happen in every story, as some will be dark and fatalistic and so on, but they had a bit of a responsibility there to roll along with the format and theme we'd gotten used to. That's Shepard overcoming the odds through force of will, no matter what those odds are. You don't make 3 games based on that completely to change it all right at the end. It's called bait and switch and it's completely dishonest.

I think the cinematic dimension of the game really made some people out there lose touch and go "**** them! LETS MAKE ART!". Ridiculous.

[Axelstall]

AdmiralCheez wrote...


I think Bioware accidentally triggered a lot of unpleasant emotions in people.  It speaks to ME3's power that it can make people feel real, actual grief, but should videogames be allowed to do that?

That is what I'm feeling right now... The fact that when Legion died and all the geth with him and I felt sad... It's kinda scary.
Now that I beat the game and I died, the relays are gone, my LI Tali, Garrus, Joker etc. are on some random planet with no way off...
I felt angry at myself for letting it happen. Is it healthy for a game to have that hold?
I guess its not that different than felling bed about stuff in books, except it was MY fault.
In answer to your question. Yes video games should be allowed to make us care for the outcome. It should.

[Foulpancake]

They killed the franchise, everything with those endings, bioware is dead to me unless they fix this travesty

[theManic]

I was totally emotionally prepared for the end of Shepard's story. BioWare was very up front that this would be the final installment in the "Saga of Shepard", so I was there. I was totally on board.

I think what hurt me the most was the fact that galactic civilization as we knew it in the Mass Effect universe is over. I was prepared for Shepard's story to be over; I wasn't prepared for Mass Effect to be over. I wanted to see the krogan colonize their worlds, I wanted to be able to visit the Citadel in some other game set ten, twenty, however many years in the future. I ...

I dunno. It's hard to express how I feel right now aside from "bad". What did anything Shepard did matter? Watching those mass relays explode was one of the most depressing things I have ever seen in my life.

The worst part for me was the explanation given by the Catalyst that galactic civilizations would always be plagued by war, between organics and organics, between organics and synthetics, so ... the best option was to completely separate all societies from each other, forever? Sitting here I called bull****. I cured the krogan and had Wrex and Bakara as their leaders. I brokered peace between quarian and geth. My Shepard proved that galactic civilization could be peaceful, could FUNCTION. And I wasn't given the choice to ensure that it would CONTINUE to function.

That, to me, was the most upsetting part.

[mereck7980]

I would have been ok with the endings, if BW elaborated more on the fate of the Galaxy.

I didn't need a Disney happy ending...ending. I just wanted to know more about how things worked out for all the species and characters I grew attached too.

[balmyrian]

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

balmyrian wrote...

I'm pretty much amazed at how bad I've been feeling about this since completing the game yesterday. Some sort of very unpleasant knot in the chest. It's nasty.

Same here never has a piece of media left me with such an uneasy feeling in my chest, like I say in the title it "pshysically" hurts me how bad the ending was. I felt sick.

"You and me both", as they keep saying in the game.

[I can Hackett]

OP I dont think I could have put it better than that all I can say is I am with u 100% it wiered I am actually depressed I dont even wanna play it anymore I dont know what to do and here I was planning on playing the whole trilogy over again I keep seeing people saying they feel physically hurt....me too, I cant even listen to the "an end once and for all" song on the soundtrack it brings back that pain:crying:

Modifié par I can Hackett, 09 mars 2012 - 03:42 .

[Painaid]

What Bioware did to its fans is borderline criminal.

In what twisted, ****ed up piece of **** reality does Bioware live in if they thought for even a second that these endings were even CLOSE to satisfactory?

I'm not sure Bioware can even 'fix' this. The very idea that they thought it would be ok to ship the game with these endings shows just out OUT OF TOUCH Bioware was with the direction the fans wanted this game to go.

Modifié par Painaid, 09 mars 2012 - 03:42 .

[IndelibleJester]

I agree with some earlier posters - I've been having a hard time in life recently with a lot of let downs and disappointments... It made me even more excited for ME3. I was prepared for all the correct emotions - I didn't count complete and utter disappointment to be one of them.

I want to go back and play it again but nothing I do will improve it. Nothing I do can save the crew and friends and LI that I adore and love so much. Nothing I do can save Shepard, even, and leave the ones I love the most left standing.

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 09 mars 2012 - 03:43 .

[Mclouvins]

mereck7980 wrote...

I would have been ok with the endings, if BW elaborated more on the fate of the Galaxy.

I didn't need a Disney happy ending...ending. I just wanted to know more about how things worked out for all the species and characters I grew attached too.

It needed a memorial epilogue with like Hackett and Joker or something sort of like Halo 3 since both had stranded ships. The endings would have been improved a lot with context. For example my first playthrough was a "worst possible Shep" so I went for the under 1750 readiness score since I figured it would be hard once I get my MP score up. In that ending it looks like Earth is incinerated and the soldiers on the ground are all vaporized but I really have no idea whether or not I just destroyed Earth.

[I can Hackett]

this reminds me of Deception

[Qutayba]

Yes, Frodo, you destroyed the Ring and defeated the darkness of Sauron, but this causes Mount Doom to erupt, burying not only Mordor but all of Middle Earth in lava, death, and ash. There might still be a hobbit here and there, but the lands you hoped to save are pretty much toast.

[super4star]

justie wrote...

We will give you our ****ing money for a better ending? Isn't that enough?

you are wrong, YOU SHOULD STOP GIVEING THEM MONEY LOL

[SolidisusSnake1]

IndelibleJester wrote...

I agree with some earlier posters - I've been having a hard time in life recently with a lot of let downs and disappointments... It made me even more excited for ME3. I was prepared for all the correct emotions - I didn't count complete and utter disappointment to be one of them.

I want to go back and play it again but nothing I do will improve it. Nothing I do can save the crew and friends and LI that I adore and love so much. Nothing I do can save Shepard, even, and leave the ones I love the most left standing.

Same. I was really hoping ME3 would lift my spirits and send me soaring, and again its not that I was expecting a "happy Disney ending", I fully expected Shepard to die, I even predicted that they would destory all the relays. BUT I figured these would all be choices, not the only option. In no way do I get to express or even attempt to achieve an ending that I would consider satisfactory. And in the end we get NO closure, we dont know what happened to our crew, our LIs, the Krogan and Turians, Geth and Quarians, and Galactic civilziation as a whole. No ending speech eulogy, no hero's celebration, no ending scene with LI. Nothing.

If the point was to make me feel even more depressed than I was before starting the game, then they succeeded.

[Mr.Snithums]

Just wanted to throw my two cents in here;

I played Mass Effect 3 from the second I could and I absolutly loved the game and its perfections, flaws and everything in between. That was up until the last five minutes of the game. I was faced with a wierd ghost child and three choices that felt and were exactly the same. While in a drawn out timeline I'm sure there would have been vast differences, but all we were shown were different colored laser lights flying around. I honestly wouldn't have minded this ending if there had just been more, but we were left simply looking at how everyone had crashed on a planet after trying to escape the magical lasers (because apparently Joker didn't want to partake in the battle over Earth and ran away for some reason). I wanted to know what happened after all that, if you were going to show me that at all.

At the point in the game when Shepard and Anderson were both looking out into space, half-dead or otherwise, I wish the game had ended there. Let the Crucible do its thing, make it a generic super laser and have it blow up all the Reapers, I'm more than fine with that, more than fine with Shepard dying through sacrifice. Just show us what happens next, How did the fleets actually fare after I spent 20+ hours getting them altogether and what happens to the rest of the galaxy. I don't need to see some old man and his kid talking in a scene ripped from a painting that adds nothing to the story or game.

The game took the Deus Ex exit when it never leaned on any of the themes it presented at the end. The series was about survival and battling the Reapers and not the mumbo jumbo of transhumanism and organics vs synthetics that a ghost child I had been hallucinating about the entire game told me it was about. Give us an ending that actually relates the game that leans on the choices we made before the last five minutes, show us what happened because our choices. As that is the latter half of choice, consequence.

Should Shepard die? Are the Reapers destroyed? Does the Galactic Fleet get annihilated? What happens to the Normandy and her crew? These are all questions that should be answered through past choices and not simply through three beams of light that do effectivly nothing. It would be easy enough to make a Fallout-style ending to give us a more fitting and rewarding end. It would not win back fans who felt abandoned by the half-assed current ending but it would at least give players closure to the universe they have invested dozens or even hundreds of hours in. If you want most of your displeased fanbase back though, build us a new ending from scratch, ditch your magic laser show and give us an ending that evokes powerful emotion in all of us, pehaps an outcome we don't desire occurs but that is the reprecussions of how our Commander Shepard interacted with the galaxy and how it inevitably ended their tale.