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[Zenoctilles]

Personally, I don't buy the ending as it is written.

Hence, I have an interesting interpretation for this ending:

When Hackett gets on the radio and says that the Crucible isn't doing anything, I believe that Shepard lost consciousness. As a result, everything from that point onwards is simply Shepard's hallucinations as he slowly bled out. That would explain why the Guardian looks like the kid from Shepard's dreams and why Joker fled the Sol system in the thick of battle, an action which doesn't reflect his character as we know it at all.

Shepard was dreaming of a galaxy free from the Reapers as he slowly died from his wounds. That's my interpretation. Away from Shepard's hallucinations, Hackett and his men are probably scratching their heads at why the Crucible isn't working, and the Reapers redouble their assault on the organic fleet, forcing them to flee.

Still, crappy, crappy, ending though.

Modifié par Zenoctilles, 09 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[Jjacobclark]

I had thought of this especially since during his ascension you see him going into a bright light which could mean he died. But that still wouldn't explain the relays exploding.

[Phydeaux314]

Shepard is indoctrinated while on the citadel, forced to make a choice s/he doesn't really believe in.
Alternatively
It's all the dying dreams of the commander after passing out talking to TIM.

[Zenoctilles]

Jjacobclark wrote...

I had thought of this especially since during his ascension you see him going into a bright light which could mean he died. But that still wouldn't explain the relays exploding.

The relays didn't explode. That was part of his hallucination. 

[Jjacobclark]

Zenoctilles wrote...

Jjacobclark wrote...

I had thought of this especially since during his ascension you see him going into a bright light which could mean he died. But that still wouldn't explain the relays exploding.

The relays didn't explode. That was part of his hallucination. 

Why then is joker and the normandy riding the explosion from the relay at the end?

[MrChowderClam]

In reality, shepard was playing Deus Ex while on shrooms

"I AM JC. MUST MERGE WITH HELIOS. GREEN LIGHT. BLARGH"

[Zenoctilles]

Jjacobclark wrote...

Zenoctilles wrote...

Jjacobclark wrote...

I had thought of this especially since during his ascension you see him going into a bright light which could mean he died. But that still wouldn't explain the relays exploding.

The relays didn't explode. That was part of his hallucination. 

Why then is joker and the normandy riding the explosion from the relay at the end?

That was part of Shepard's hallucination as well. He was thinking of Joker. 

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

I think it's better to imagine the hallucination starting after he/she gets hit by Harbinger's beam.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 09 mars 2012 - 02:33 .

[Lyriq]

Shepard never left the Geth Consensus.

[Warp92]

um my shep is still alive.. you see him breathing at the end

[Zenoctilles]

Warp92 wrote...

um my shep is still alive.. you see him breathing at the end

Still part of the hallucination. Shepard thinks he did it and lived. 

[superg30]

If  the ending was all a hallucination, then YTF doesn't he wake up? and what's up with the old guy and the kid after the credits saying there was another story? Does that mean ME4 or what? like really, CH should of let there be 3 endings, 1-You lose,Reapers win, 2-You sacrifice yourself, but win, and 3-You win, you defeat the Reapers and you live. NOT EVERY SINGLE ENDING HAVE SHEPARD DIE! Ruined the game and the whole series for me, especially the part after the creds that the whole thing was a story........

Modifié par superg30, 09 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[lookingglassmind]

Hey, look! It's Lost all over again!

[MandatoryDenial1]

MrChowderClam wrote...

In reality, shepard was playing Deus Ex while on shrooms

"I AM JC. MUST MERGE WITH HELIOS. GREEN LIGHT. BLARGH"

Wow, I never realized just how close the ME3 endings do mirror Deus Ex.  That is amazing and wow do I feel dumb for not catching that .

[DOYOURLABS]

When Shepard got hit with the beam, I thought everything after that was a hallucination and he would be woken up by a squad member. It took me a while to realize I was wrong

[Zenoctilles]

superg30 wrote...

If  the ending was all a hallucination, then YTF doesn't he wake up? and what's up with the old guy and the kid after the credits saying there was another story? Does that mean ME4 or what? like really, CH should of let there be 3 endings, 1-You lose,Reapers win, 2-You sacrifice yourself, but win, and 3-You win, you defeat the Reapers and you live. NOT EVERY SINGLE ENDING HAVE SHEPARD DIE! Ruined the game and the whole series for me, especially the part after the creds that the whole thing was a story........

He doesn't wake up because he eventually died from his wounds. 

As for the epilogue, I guess we can then interpret Mass Effect as a simple story a grandfather told his grandchild. Mass Effect was simply a story, and nothing more. 

[Zenoctilles]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

When Shepard got hit with the beam, I thought everything after that was a hallucination and he would be woken up by a squad member. It took me a while to realize I was wrong

No. I see the entire ending as Shepard's final thoughts and hopes for the galaxy at large. He dies on the Citadel, and Hackett and the rest of the fleets are left to fend for themselves. 

[MrChowderClam]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

MrChowderClam wrote...

In reality, shepard was playing Deus Ex while on shrooms

"I AM JC. MUST MERGE WITH HELIOS. GREEN LIGHT. BLARGH"

Wow, I never realized just how close the ME3 endings do mirror Deus Ex.  That is amazing and wow do I feel dumb for not catching that .

Ironically, people say that the Deus Ex endings were some of the best in VG history. How the times have changed.... Guess I'm getting old.

[SJK93]

I've heard that there's an extra cutscene you see of Shepard's survival if you have enough Readiness points, or if you save Anderson. Other than that, I think you guys might be reading into this too much. It's probably meant to all be taken literally.

Modifié par SJK93, 09 mars 2012 - 02:57 .

[ZzOoRrGg]

MrChowderClam wrote...

Ironically, people say that the Deus Ex endings were some of the best in VG history. How the times have changed.... Guess I'm getting old.

It's because the endings in Deus Ex were more than just what color the beam is at the end, depending on your choice.

[MrChowderClam]

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

MrChowderClam wrote...

Ironically, people say that the Deus Ex endings were some of the best in VG history. How the times have changed.... Guess I'm getting old.

It's because the endings in Deus Ex were more than just what color the beam is at the end, depending on your choice.

I felt like the ending started when you went for earth - not when the last 3 cutscenes played. In that sense, the ending does have more substance than "just what the color the beam is at the end". Plus, depending on your actions, earth can be devastated, destroyed, or scarred. But I see where you're coming from - it would have been good for Bioware to emphasize the differences more.

I liked the ending for the most part. I do, however, wish you had a longer conversation with the catalyst at the end though. I wonder if there are unused audio files that point to that.

Modifié par MrChowderClam, 09 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[Hexxys]

Ahhh the denial stage...

[Zenoctilles]

Hexxys wrote...

Ahhh the denial stage...

I'm not in denial. It's a bad ending. But, the ending is so ambiguous that it can be interpreted in different ways. 

[gmr89]

Great now it copies repomen and deus ex.

[Vikali]

Actually, nothing has happened since ME1 at the beacon. Shepard's in a permanent coma on the SR1 in the med bay. 8D