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[Hexxys]

sevenplusone wrote...

balmyrian wrote...

I hate to, but I agree. When I finished ME1 and ME2, I started over as soon as the credits stopped rolling. I don't see myself going through ME3 again as unlike ME1 or 2, the game here doesn't end on a note of satisfaction, achievement or victory.

No sense of achievement, satisfaction, or victory? Really?

The Reapers are as close as you can possibly get to a Wrath of God scenario, without actually facing God, and you manage to defeat it.

How do you not feel any sense of achievement, satisfaction, or victory?

Because it's a pyrrhic victory.  That is, the cost of victory is so devastatingly huge that is can't really be considered a true victory.  From the player's perspective, Shepard is dead.  Many characters are dead or stranded, unable to ever rejoin the rest of their people.  The mass relays and the Citadel have been destroyed.  Trillions are dead.  Galactic civilization is no more.

Everything that made the Mass Effect IP attractive in the first place has been destroyed.  In the eyes of MOST players, that is not victory.

[CountSnackula]

Agreed. Usually, I wouldn't bother to post just to complain, but what in the *world* were these guys thinking? These endings are *terrible*.

I played through ME1 6 times and ME2 12. I don't think ME3 will even get 2.

For me, the climax of the game was when Shepard and Tali sat there on Rannoch while a geth prime escorted Admiral Raan off to show her around. That's what I'll remember about the game. Not the utterly atrocious ending.

[mupp3tz]

Also considering the fact that MANY (if not all) Mass Effect players became so absorbed in the different races, galaxies, politics, etc.. for it just to mean nothing, since it all ceases to exist.

[mrjoshiepoo]

nitefyre410 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

mrjoshiepoo wrote...

Regardless of my opinion on the game, I am looking to see if Bioware makes a move regarding the complaints. It might be one of Biowares last chances to show it is still loyal to it's fans. Even though I am ok with the ending, the action Bioware might or might not take regarding the fans input will greatly determine if I buy future games from them.

Same here.

On another note, ME3's already grimdark as hell; some of the ambient dialogue nearly brought me to tears.  Shouldn't the ending(s), you know, relieve that?  Shouldn't we be made to feel that the worst really is over?

Hell, we're not even sure what happens to the galaxy after Shep goes all JC on Helios the Catalyst and stuff.

 

I don't mind that ending  its  the one I choose but damn that needs to some more explination.. some debate with  the Catalyst  about all of it and the process and what happend afterwards.  I still have questions about the Catalyst and its terriblely flawed way of solving a problem that really has no true solution and I mean more than the whole  Organic vs Syntethetic angle it was trying to play that came off as  sad cover for the what really need to be said.   Why should we let you live when all  you do is kill each  other and destory yourselfs with power you don't understand.... They could have played that angle straight instead  of trying to tip toe around and did so damn poorly.

I agree, I had more questions after the ending of ME3 then I did before I started actually. But at the same time there is nothing wrong with not knowing everything to a story sometimes things are meant to be mysterious. Or even force you to use your own imagination.

[I can Hackett]

Olueq wrote...

Me1/2/3 all have no replay value anymore.

this

[satrack]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Which one is the Better Ending? Control? Synthesis?

I need one that ensures the Survival of ALL Life.

That's the problem. None! No endings can make your Shepard, your squad, the Geth, Earth and the Fleet survive. You have to choose your Shepard and something else. Me I've chosen my squad (Destruction option), but it's still a bad ending.

[Seboist]

ME3 has no replay value but not because of the endings, it's due to it being a linear popamole shooter.

[I can Hackett]

Sign this petition people lets get this fixed

[Asiant]

I agree that everything in the game has replay value, but the ending is simply too depressing to go back to. Just like Javik and his memory shard, we can go back, but it is too painful, thus we choose not to

[Nick.Chabby]

Seeing our squadmates from ME2 dies in front of us while we can't do anything... In every playthrough... Knowing that whatever effort we put in, our crew will end on a random planet with the destruction of the Mass Relay and the possible death of Shepard...

I'm in no mood of playing through this depressive ambiance again. On Earth, I was looking forward having one hell of a celebration at the end (worrying if I would make it at the same time) because it would be worth the 'pain' seeing important characters die and having regrets (like Wrex's death in my case)... But it seems like my character is destined to death.

The only thing I will do for now is to manage to get the ending to see that cutscene where Shepard dies under the debris, just to have the mind at peace about having my 5 years character alive, but nothing else... It made me sad.

If I open up ME2, I can only think about all the money/time invested in the series worth getting a such depressive ending. What's the point of playing ME2 again since in the end Shepard dies?
What's the point of playing ME3 again if Shepard dies in the end?

Modifié par Nick.Chabby, 09 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[Dracotamer]

Yup. Super sad.

[Roxpanda1690]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Also considering the fact that MANY (if not all) Mass Effect players became so absorbed in the different races, galaxies, politics, etc.. for it just to mean nothing, since it all ceases to exist.

That's what bothered me the most it's not like Shepard sacrificed him/her-self to uphold intergalactic relationships between races. 

It's almost painful to think none of these many vivid and amazing cultures and race will never interact with each other again like why introduce them if that's the case?

[fearan1]

I agree zero replay value for me do to endings I will not sell to gamespot right away in hopes of clarification from Bioware on the endings.

[acegarcia5]

It almost feels like your choices in ME 1 & 2 were a waste because they didn't really impact what kind of ending you got. Not to mention your left with so many questions unanswered. 

Modifié par acegarcia5, 09 mars 2012 - 07:38 .

[Almostfaceman]

Yup, if no response from Bioware soon on yes or no then I'm selling all my Bioware games and writing them off. Of course if they say "no" I'm selling as well.

[Genun]

Jake Boone wrote...

Sywen wrote...

 I 100% agree.  This was the only collectors edition I ever bought.  I made my family crazy with my excitement for this game.  I have multiple playthoughs of the first 2.  I loved this game until the endings.  Unless something changes, there is no way I can put myself though this again.  I don't think I can even play 1 and 2 again.  I just feel horrible still hours later.  Real life is sucky enough sometimes...in games I wanna have a choice of some happy ending.

I felt this too once I finished. Give yourself a day or two, then go back. It helped me deal with the lack of closure. Because there is so much that this game does right, and to prevent yourself from enjoying it is sad (not to mention a waste of 80ish dollars).

just my two cents.

I agree. the endings were not that bad. They certainly didn't live up to any expectations, but they weren't as bad as most people are saying. All I wish is shepard lived with his LI, and they explained a little about how society survived, or not depending on what you picked. Each ending is different philosophically, but the cutscenes are barely different at all.  

[J5550123]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yup, if no response from Bioware soon on yes or no then I'm selling all my Bioware games and writing them off. Of course if they say "no" I'm selling as well.

We know that they're reading the boards, and I know for sure that at least Mike Gamble, a producer of the game is aware since fans mentioned it on Twitter.

Modifié par J5550123, 09 mars 2012 - 07:45 .

[acegarcia5]

Sywen wrote...

 I 100% agree.  This was the only collectors edition I ever bought.  I made my family crazy with my excitement for this game.  I have multiple playthoughs of the first 2.  I loved this game until the endings.  Unless something changes, there is no way I can put myself though this again.  I don't think I can even play 1 and 2 again.  I just feel horrible still hours later.  Real life is sucky enough sometimes...in games I wanna have a choice of some happy ending.

My experience was very similar,  and  I am actually surprised at the people who say life and war has no happy endings.  World War 2 would beg to differ, many people died, attrocities were committed, but in the end the good guys won.

[d-boy15]

I don't see those endings represent any philosophically at all...

[Dracotamer]

Even thr mutiplayer can't help the replayability imo.

[Rawgrim]

It actually ruins the replayability of ME1 and 2 as well.

[Lyrandori]

I agree there's no point basically.

If I played ME1, I would look at the dialog, hearing this or that character talk, take this or that decision, then ME3's ending would come back in mind and then I'd tell myself "but what's the point of this anyway, might as well start from ME3 if anything". If I played ME2, same thing. And ME3 itself, I might give it another go but I'll stop after the Illusive Man's base mission. I just want to play with subtitles on and bring different characters to specific missions to check out the dialog I missed, but that's about it, technically I am "done" with the franchise.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Dracotamer wrote...

Even thr mutiplayer can't help the replayability imo.

Eh, the single player has little replayability other than revisiting a few scenes.

With multiplayer, I can still shoot the sh*t with others and it is decently fun.  And besides, the mission accomplished screen at the end of each mp match makes me feel infinitely better than the single player endings.

[Teddie Sage]

I agree with the poll.

[Arokel]

I plan on replaying it many times.