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This is the only ME game I didn't start replaying the minute I finished it. In fact, I will most likely uninstall it from my 360 and not play it again. To put that into prespective, I have had ME1 and 2 installed on my 360 from the moment that installs were allowed and have never removed them. And I have at least 12 playthroughs under my belt for the first 2 games.

I still like Bioware; I think they make some of the best games ever. However, the way they closed out ME3 ruined what was for me one of the greatest gaming series in history. I just wasted 5 years of my life...

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Adsinjapan

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pknecron wrote...

 I just wasted 5 years of my life...


You know you didn't have to continuously play for 5 years right? I mean, you did something else in between games right? :P

J/K

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Adsinjapan wrote...

pknecron wrote...

 I just wasted 5 years of my life...


You know you didn't have to continuously play for 5 years right? I mean, you did something else in between games right? :P

J/K


AH HAHA.

But honestly, everyone has already said it, but I am going to chime in too. This is the only Mass Effect game I can't possibly play again, atleast not for a long time. No reward for my efforts. No satisfaction. It would have been nice if invested fans got a bonus happy ending for spending the time and successfully bringing the galaxy together.

Anderson shouldn't have been quite dead (if you stopped the Illusive man from shooting him), he should have stepped in and taken Shep''s place if he/she decided to sacrifice her/himself.

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Fair34 wrote...

Usually, after beating a game for the first time, I jump right back in and do a replay, but with an ending like this I just don't have the desire right now. I may replay in the future but not until that bitter taste the ending left me with goes away,


Exactly, I haven't booted the game up since I beat it, I just don't feel like doing it, not even for the MP that I loved playing before.
It's left a bitter taste, one that won't go away anytime soon and it's unfortunate.
I played the heck out of ME2, at least one playthrough for every class, twice for some just for the different paths based on different ME1 imports..

But ME3 left a bad feeling in my gut, it's just depressing, which I guess that's the stage I'm at right now, though I think I skipped the first 3 stages of grief...

Modifié par Byriok, 09 mars 2012 - 08:50 .


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just pretend that everything after the Cerberus Base Assault doesn't exist, I find that very helpful.

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Byriok wrote...

Fair34 wrote...

Usually, after beating a game for the first time, I jump right back in and do a replay, but with an ending like this I just don't have the desire right now. I may replay in the future but not until that bitter taste the ending left me with goes away,


Exactly, I haven't booted the game up since I beat it, I just don't feel like doing it, not even for the MP that I loved playing before.
It's left a bitter taste, one that won't go away anytime soon and it's unfortunate.
I played the heck out of ME2, at least one playthrough for every class, twice for some just for the different paths based on different ME1 imports..

But ME3 left a bad feeling in my gut, it's just depressing, which I guess that's the stage I'm at right now, though I think I skipped the first 3 stages of grief...


Same....I''m only doing a replay to get some more achievements and try different team combos to see new conversations during missions with new game+.

Other then that, I have no desire to import any of my other 7+ Sheps/FemSheps to play through.

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 By this logic, ME2 also had no replay value.

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It didn't have a depressing ending.

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The ending was kinda weird no doubt, and there was a lack of closure, but what I felt was odd about the story was the fact that without seeing the locations before the destruction, I didn't really see how there was supposed to be any emotional impact. I mean you see earth for like 2 minutes then leave, and then the only cutscene is the kid's shuttle being shot down/leaving anderson on earth. Same with Thessia and Palaven, didn't really have a grasp of the "direness" of the situation without seeing them before the battles. To be fair, I have never really been that emotional about the games, but I was kinda curious to see what their vision of Earth was like, and then compare it to other civilizations. Too bad we couldnt see that.

I suppose the similarities in the endings (especially from an ending video perspective) hurt replay value, but for me its the fact that you fight the same enemies the entire game. Only so many husks/marauders/brutes/etc. (though you do fight geth at one point) you can fight before it gets kinda boring/easy even on insanity. Felt like ME2 had the best enemy diversity (basically all races and a variety of unit types), so I think thats what hurts the replay value a lot more in my opinion. I barely had to change my tactics at all the entire game, except to defeat the really annoying banshees and only because of the ridiculous amounts of barrier/armor they get lol.

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RiouHotaru wrote...

 By this logic, ME2 also had no replay value.


ME1 and ME2 now have no replay value.

Replaying ME2 gave you different outcomes based on who survived your crew, collector base, etc. The whole point of that was for those choices to affect your game at the end of ME3. But as we see no matter what choice you make in ME1 or ME2 you still get the same crappy endings in ME3.

I can kill Wrex, kill the Rachni, have the minimum amount of people live in ME2, might as well make Uldina the councilor instead if Anderson since somehow he magically becomes the councilor in ME3 no matter what and I would still get the same crappy ending has if I had done everything to save everyone.

That's the whole point that our choices would make a difference in the end of ME3. Well they didn't make a differene and we all get a crappy ending, with no closure or depth.

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I held positive that I would replay ME3 countless times, just as I did ME1 and ME2. Come to find out I can't even look at my ME3 game case without a fresh wave of depression. It's been a couple days since the ending punched me in the gut, but affect has only faded to the point where I'm not literally in tears from disappointment. I can't bring myself to go back to the other two games. None of what I did mattered in the slightest. I held BioWare in such high esteem, defended them against any critic. I liked DA2. Not nearly as much as DA:O, but I liked it all the same. For me it was only a bit of a slip-up, but this was just tossing us over a cliff without so much and a 'How do you do.' Unless something is rectified, unless we get the closure and the satisfaction we need, I know there's absolutely no reason for me to ever play another BioWare game. Even DA3, for however much I adore that series.

But the sad truth is that I know they really have no reason to care what we think--they have our money already. If they still care about their fans like they're claiming--although not following through in the slightest, at present--then somehow they'll come through. If they really don't care, which is the vibe I'm getting from this forum and Gamble's twitter (even though twitter is a poor in-depth communication service) then I see them losing a sizable chunk of their fanbase.

I haven't played DA:O in at least a couple years--having memorized it all but completely, and adoring it no less--but here I sit, unable to go back to the Mass Effect series in wake of the hideously ignoble ending. I'm taking refuge in what will always be a fantastic game, trying to pretend only the end of ME3 never happened. The rest of the game was amazing.

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Seanabhainn wrote...

I held positive that I would replay ME3 countless times, just as I did ME1 and ME2. Come to find out I can't even look at my ME3 game case without a fresh wave of depression. It's been a couple days since the ending punched me in the gut, but affect has only faded to the point where I'm not literally in tears from disappointment. I can't bring myself to go back to the other two games. None of what I did mattered in the slightest. I held BioWare in such high esteem, defended them against any critic. I liked DA2. Not nearly as much as DA:O, but I liked it all the same. For me it was only a bit of a slip-up, but this was just tossing us over a cliff without so much and a 'How do you do.' Unless something is rectified, unless we get the closure and the satisfaction we need, I know there's absolutely no reason for me to ever play another BioWare game. Even DA3, for however much I adore that series.

But the sad truth is that I know they really have no reason to care what we think--they have our money already. If they still care about their fans like they're claiming--although not following through in the slightest, at present--then somehow they'll come through. If they really don't care, which is the vibe I'm getting from this forum and Gamble's twitter (even though twitter is a poor in-depth communication service) then I see them losing a sizable chunk of their fanbase.

I haven't played DA:O in at least a couple years--having memorized it all but completely, and adoring it no less--but here I sit, unable to go back to the Mass Effect series in wake of the hideously ignoble ending. I'm taking refuge in what will always be a fantastic game, trying to pretend only the end of ME3 never happened. The rest of the game was amazing.


Yes it was! I think that is the part that hurts the most. That the entire franchise up to that point was so amazing and then in it's final moments it takes a nose dive off the cliff of eternity...I too feel the same way as you did since I just completed the game this morning...If I could describe it in one word it would be "emptyness"...I feel like my entire favorite escapist world has just been ripped apart with no remorse...

I really hope we get an official announcement regarding this soon as I feel totally lost when it comes to my feelings about the Mass Effect franchise right now...

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I will replay it next time I have a break to run my second Shepard through Mass Effect 2, I think it does have replay value even if the ending was odd. I personally liked how Shepard went out in the destroy ending, like a badass.

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Seanabhainn wrote...
Unless something is rectified, unless we get the closure and the satisfaction we need


Oh don't worry, they will...for $9.99. I defended them about the day one DLC saying things like "Oh, they will probably still have information on the Protheans and maybe you might still be able to talk to them." Well, let me promptly eat my shoe. They took that massive part of the storyline out (or with held it) and charged you extra money just so you can have some answers about the Protheans. Now, I think they purposefully made these endings horrible so they could charge us an additional 10 dollars just to get the ending we want. Like someone has said, BioWare has been indoctrinated by EA.
I, personally have no interest in another playthrough. I think I'll hold on to this game for a little while longer. If I don't hear something from BioWare soon, I will sell back the game to gamestop. Oh, and that's what you want to do if you don;t like this. Don't return it, sell it back to gamestop. BioWare gets no money from used game sales and gamestop can sell and re-sell the same copy many times over to keep getting profits.

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Harbinger of Hope wrote...

Seanabhainn wrote...
Unless something is rectified, unless we get the closure and the satisfaction we need


Oh don't worry, they will...for $9.99. I defended them about the day one DLC saying things like "Oh, they will probably still have information on the Protheans and maybe you might still be able to talk to them." Well, let me promptly eat my shoe. They took that massive part of the storyline out (or with held it) and charged you extra money just so you can have some answers about the Protheans. Now, I think they purposefully made these endings horrible so they could charge us an additional 10 dollars just to get the ending we want. Like someone has said, BioWare has been indoctrinated by EA.
I, personally have no interest in another playthrough. I think I'll hold on to this game for a little while longer. If I don't hear something from BioWare soon, I will sell back the game to gamestop. Oh, and that's what you want to do if you don;t like this. Don't return it, sell it back to gamestop. BioWare gets no money from used game sales and gamestop can sell and re-sell the same copy many times over to keep getting profits.


I defended the day one DLC, too.  I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt--defended everything people were saying they did wrong.  Ate my words.  I want to think they'll give us something substantial, but after that punch to the face, I dont' dare hope for it more than a little.  Although, there's no way I'm paying for anything without concrete evidence of a satisfying solution.

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Husher315 wrote...

"Each of you needs to be willing to die! Anything less, and you're already dead!" -Commander Shepard, Mass Effect 3

I am so sick and tired of the ridiculous amount of posts there are about the endings! There are so many! Shepard was willing to die in EVERY single game. And guess what? He died! He sacrificed himself and that is that. What did you expect? Care Bears?


ffs why is the death of a good and main Charecter a good ending why is the inevetable death of shepherd good where is the reward the good feeling the choice DA:O had a choice  a bit dogy yes but a choice.

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Aesieru wrote...

They have replay value.

It is a bit melancholy though.


This. There are so many different variables that it would be silly to never replay the game again just because you don't like the ending. If the ending bums you out so much, just do everything else leading up to it, and don't do the ending.

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I changed my femshep desktop background. I packed up my Normandy, art book, ce game case in a box and put it in the very back of my closet. I deleted the ME books from my nook. I am so disgusted and heartbroken that unless they change something I will never have anything to do with ME again

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I felt like **** because of the ending yesterday, but now I am simply very annoyed. Hopefully this cycle continues and soon I will be able to get over the butchered endings and replay the game a few times because it is really the best Mass Effect game for me.

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on my 3rd as we speak with new game plus

renagon FTW!

also ops thread title is wrong on so many levels

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Seanabhainn wrote...

But the sad truth is that I know they really have no reason to care what we think--they have our money already. If they still care about their fans like they're claiming--although not following through in the slightest, at present--then somehow they'll come through. If they really don't care, which is the vibe I'm getting from this forum and Gamble's twitter (even though twitter is a poor in-depth communication service) then I see them losing a sizable chunk of their fanbase.

In reading this, it suddenly occurred to me that they no longer need DA or ME money.  They have SWTOR money.  They can retire for life on the fees that brings in EVERY month.

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/havent read anything in this thread but I just want to say

that originally i didn't want to replay this, but as the 'kicked in the gut' feeling slowly goes away, i remember how great the rest of the game is, and I'll probably play again.

In a few days.

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Give me a couple of days and I'll replay it. Just... not right now. I need some time to recover. Like Sanguine, I just feel like Bioware punched me repeatedly in the stomach. Once I recover from that... well, I'm sure I'll play again. I enjoyed playing a lot. I liked the combat, I liked the characters, I liked the locations, and I liked the story and all its twists and turns. (like Cerberus attacking the Citadel--who saw THAT coming, even if you did think Udina was a bad guy?!)

I'm also interested to see how things change when I play through with a save where everyone DIDN'T live.

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I'm working myself into a NG+ play through I'm not quiet there yet. I watched the Synthesis ending again and it still not great but I can stomach it some more than the others. There is still a ton the needs to be explained and reworked for that ending to be what it should be but its the one I'm going with..reluctantly.

I would have loved a Shepard to be able to speak Tali and his crew one last time on to see all brake down and my hear Garrus just whisper thank you. The process giving them every thing he felt and was feeling. Its Spaces Jesus but at this point why not just run with it.. you Earn you Happy ending with a Sacrifice along some heart warming. Hackett looking at the other leaders about what they do from here. Final closing out the epilogue with conversation between The Catalyst and Shepard about some things and roll credits.

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I'm another bloke who replayed the first 2 Mass Effects about 6 times each, and planned on going back to make a what-if scenario to see drastic results, but my lord once I got to the ending, I damn near wanted to throw my Collector's Edition in the garbage. I've been hoping and praying that Bioware would deliver with a game that could have vastly different results depending on your Paragon or Renegade character, and all of the choices you made before. They all feel completely pointless now, just adding numbers to the Galactic Readiness (which is too easy to win it anyway), and when the ultimatum choice came, it felt like Bioware got extremely, extremely lazy, and just made a last-minute choice, none of them having any real sense of closure, and ends on a very unsatisfying note, despite getting the "best possible ending" with Shepard surviving.

Unless Bioware decides to address this I doubt I may ever go back to play my other 5 characters and continue my other 2 ME1 and ME2 characters just cuz the endings made all my work feel worthless, in a sense.