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ME3 has NO replay value... Due to ending.


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#176
Dracotamer

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I'm not paying anything that fixes the ending. It should be free.

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Nayt Navare

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Dracotamer wrote...

I'm not paying anything that fixes the ending. It should be free.


I'm fairly certain the goodwill free ending DLC would create would be enough to stem the backlash.

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Spectre_Shepard

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i agree.

i planned on replaying the trilogy from the beginning.

now i just..... can't. not knowing what lies ahead.

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Spectre_Shepard wrote...

i agree.

i planned on replaying the trilogy from the beginning.

now i just..... can't. not knowing what lies ahead.

Exactly.  Knowing that you're working toward either death or permanent separation from your loved ones is not something that inspires effort.

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I will still, eventually, sometime after they fix the face import bug, replay everything prior to heading to the Cerberus base, with multiple characters, so that I can see all the different ways the various choices from the past which do have an impact on the narrative play out. If I bother, with any of those characters, to play any further than that will depend on how badly I want to see the final LI conversation at the last pause in the action on Earth. Even if I do go that far, there will be no reason to go any further.

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 Agree with the OP. collecting war assets is worthless when it ends this way. The ending took all desire to replay out of me. 

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Dracotamer

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Wish they would just tell us what is going on so I can know whether its worth it to keep it installed on my computer.

#183
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The entire game was the end, not just the last 5 minutes. They gave closure to a lot of significant things through the series; the genophage, the Geth and Quarian conflict, Cerberus and so on. The last 5 minutes could have been a lot better (the Normandy thing bothers me the most) but ti judge the entire game based on last 5 minutes is kind of silly. I started my renegade playthrough right after I finished my first paragon playthrough, and I am quite satisfied at all the subtle and not so subtle differences between my two games. I understand why people don't like the ending; I'm pretty divided on it myself; but it is still an engrossing story that ties up quite a few loose ends. The end is just that; the end of THIS trilogy; Shep's story. Doesn't mean Mass Effect 4 won't be freaking awesome and we'll get to see the results of our choices after a long period of time has passed in the story.

Still, as I said; the ending could have been executed much better than it was; but think about where; no matter what you chose in the end; the galaxy ends up. No mass relays; no Reaper threat. It means the galaxy has a clean slate to build from, the galaxy has hope because of Shep. All those who see nothing but the negative and believe everyone is dead and there is no happy ending, well I'm sorry if you see it that way. Doesn't mean that's how it is, or that is how Bioware intended it to be seen. It was just poorly executed. What if Mass Effect 4 is about developing a new way to generate mass effect fields to enable inter-galactic travel even better than the relays themselves? What if the story is about the struggle to pick up the pieces of a war ravaged galaxy? As much as it sucks, we all just have to have hope that Bioware has a plan, as I'm certain they do.

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Due to:
The beginning:- Cant import any of my ME1 characters
The middle (seems like the longest suicide note in gaming history)
The END (90+ minutes of tedium watching a movie where you know that no-one has the will to live once it has ended), and no it wasn't just the last 5 minutes for me!

I'm hoping for the DLC which contains the real ME3, after EA has it's PAM moment!
Where the missions section of the Journal is useful
Where textures/lighting/models dont have glaring issues that looked bad in 1998
Where not every character from the prevoius games commits suicide

& where I get to control Shepard for longer than the cutscenes in most missions!

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whiteraider wrote...

Due to:
The beginning:- Cant import any of my ME1 characters
The middle (seems like the longest suicide note in gaming history)
The END (90+ minutes of tedium watching a movie where you know that no-one has the will to live once it has ended), and no it wasn't just the last 5 minutes for me!

I'm hoping for the DLC which contains the real ME3, after EA has it's PAM moment!
Where the missions section of the Journal is useful
Where textures/lighting/models dont have glaring issues that looked bad in 1998
Where not every character from the prevoius games commits suicide

& where I get to control Shepard for longer than the cutscenes in most missions!


My latest theory is that Bioware had the meat of the product done (the middle) and EA came in and put the hammer down; forcing MP etc... This stretched resources for a proper beginning and end, which is why the start is extremely shodddy (IMHO) compared to the exciting cinematic of ME2 and the ending is ...... well you know.

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Kind of reminds me of KOTOR II, where we had an amazing story but a ****ty end. Same development studio, same mistake, huh.

Like everyone else I planned to replay the trilogy, that will is gone now. Good news for EA servers, now they will not be having those tons of loads and hangups when people were hoarding for MP demo. :P

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Dracotamer wrote...

Anyone else agree with me on this?

Not me.

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darthxaher wrote...

Kind of reminds me of KOTOR II, where we had an amazing story but a ****ty end. Same development studio, same mistake, huh.

KOTOR II was made by Obsidian, nice try though.

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I disagree. I'm going to play regardless because Mass Effect 1 and 2 are great games that shouldn't collect dust.

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jreezy wrote...

KOTOR II was made by Obsidian, nice try though.


Oh yeah, my mistake.

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Dracotamer

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Any more thoughts

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ShepnTali

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I have a PS3. Heck, I was gearing up to buy an Xbox JUST so I could play all 3 ME's together. Think about that. From total love to total despair in 10 minutes.

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Dracotamer wrote...

Anyone else agree with me on this? I have no desire to play ME3 again because I know that no matter what I do I will end up with one of the 16 horrible endings. With all other ME games I played through them many times, but this one is just going to sit on my hardrive after my most recent playthrough. I just don't see the point in replaying the game knowing I will be just another flavor of depressed when completed.

Here is a link to a poll...

http://social.biowar...52/polls/29102/


EXACTLY.

I have no desire to play the game again, to read any Mass Effect books or comics, or even listen to the sountrack. And I sure as hell have no desire to play any DLC that inevitably leads to this unsatisfying ending riddled with plot holes. I'm trading in ME3 today, as well as ME2 and ME, and putting whatever I get towards Halo 4, which, by default, now becomes my favorite franchise.

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The replay value has been severely smashed for me because of the ending. Both ME1 and 2 I played again immediately after completing them but can't say the same for ME3, which is ironic since gameplay-wise it's the best in the series by a distance.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 15 mars 2012 - 08:34 .


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Every part of the game is replayable. I just turn the game off when the magic elevator goes uppity up and the magic Deus Ex Machina machine fairies makes it all go boomboom.

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Aye I agree. They ruined this totally. I though that this would be a game-serie that forever would be fun to return to from time to time and replay all 3 parts. But not anymore, heck I even bought the collectors edition, think you can get a refund? :(

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As I've stated before, I can't see myself playing Mass Effect again. I mean, I went through the games because I knew that it would end, eventually, but that the journey mattered, that the goal mattered and that everything I'd do would help stopping the Reapers, a little bit. And it was out of the question for me that every game would reward or punish me for what I'd do. That the choice on Virmire would permanently remove one of my companions and traumatize me and the crew because we've lost a friend. That giving anything but my all, searching the entire galaxy for resources and doing what I could to earn the loyalty of all my crew members would result in their death and, in the worst case, our failure. Everything I did had an impact. By the time I had Mass Effect 3 and replayed the first two games, and after knowing how ME2 treated my decisions, I knew that every choice might eventually lead to a catastrophe or prevent one.

And in the very end, just before storming the conduit, knowing just how many had died to even get this far, I had no illusions that it might cost Shepard her life to save them.
The ending was terrible, there is no doubt. It leaves so much open and disregards so many important things in favor of something you could neither forsee, nor reason about/with. You're forced to pick one of three choices. The ending's not determined by what you did before, or how much of a paragon or renegade you are, or what size the army you gathered is, or who's fighting and dying right at that moment to buy you time.
It comes down to three choices, three colors, none of them satisfying; you're not your Shepard anymore. You're not anyone's Shepard anymore. You are a mindless puppet who's offered the fate of the galaxy in three flavors.

I was a Paragon. I thought of my companions first. Thought of EDI. Thought of the Geth. I knew I couldn't destroy them. But I couldn't risk the Reaper's return. I didn't believe anyone could control them forever. I chose Synthesis. Shepard sacrificed herself, dedicated her last thoughts to her oldest friends and her lover.

And then...

Nothing. Emptiness. All of you know what I'm talking about. It's not even the ending, not even the choice itself. It's throws everything out the windows, but that's not what making us mad, what's depressing us, making us so desperately want a different ending. It's what comes afterwards: The flight of the Normandy. The crash. Everyone coming out, EVERYONE who was on the planet with me. They abandoned Shepard. Joker fled the battle. And that's everything we get, the only closure Bioware offers us.

I couldn't even talk for a few minutes. I couldn't think. I waited for the credits to end because I hoped with every fiber of my being that they hadn't just ended one of the greatest stories I ever experienced with an ending less conclusive than even what Modern Warfare 3 offered. They rewarded unity with starvation and exile, my friends and companions with neglect, Shepard's actions and sacrifice with ignorance.

It was hard enough for me to load that autosave and play the destruction ending, just to find some evidence that might support the indoctrination theory; with a character that was a dead woman walking to me.

Do you really think I could bring myself to going through that again?
To some, I may sound overly dramatic. I pity you, because you don't have the deep connection I have with my character and its companions. I can't play a game again when I know that the end is not only no reward or punishment but just complete disregard of everything, even the game's story and lore itself.

I can't play this game again, if I don't know there will be waiting something for me at the other end.
Liara and Shepard's children... Tali's house... Garrus' friendship... EDI and Joker's humor... Krogans and Thurians allied... Geth and Quarians united... Anderson... Ashley...
They meant something to me. All of them. Even if Shepard had tp sacrifice herself for their future, it wouldn't have mattered, if they had had a future. But they don't. They're on a derelict planet, somewhere in the galaxy. All are divided. Many more will die. It was all for nothing. And I can't bear that a second time.

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that ending rendered the entire series unreplayable to me. going to trade them in at GS next time i'm there

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dmacleod66 wrote...

that ending rendered the entire series unreplayable to me. going to trade them in at GS next time i'm there


Hopefully they'll take them and haven't been buried in returns. It's time like this i regret using amazon but i really dislike gamestop.

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I was ready to jump back into ME1 and replay the whole trilogy before those last five minutes. Now...

I'll replay ME3 one day. Hell, I'll probably replay the whole trilogy one day. But not until the pain of disappointment heals. And then I'll open it up all over again lol