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[Aishman]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Aishman wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I figure this is the right place but...

This ending went TOTALLY over my head. I have no idea what was with the kid, why he was glittery and how the Reapers came to be or anything. Was he once an organic? He says Shepard was the first organic in the weird space section.

I think I understood the central beam ending: synthetic life becomes one with organic life at the expense of the Mass Relays but why did the Mass Relays have to be destroyed? When Shepard entered the "conduit" beam, where was my squad? Did they fry? 

(and the post-credits scene does not make one iota of sense - it should have closed Mass Effect the way it began with a scene from space panning onto Earth - this one simply doesn't feel like ME)

How exactly are these DLCs supposed to work? The game must have a hidden save as it reloads the game from pre-Cerberus base retaining anything left over. 

The kid was the head of the Reapers, the Reaper mastermind if you will. Your squad were somehow beamed into the Normandy (space magic, I dunno) and the DLCs are supposed to take place before the endings as Bioware has stated no post-game DLC. But, to be honest, I don't see why anyone would buy the DLC after those endings.

So the kid who died on Earth was - literally - the mastermind behind the Reapers? Was he once an organic? Was he actually a human child? Or is it just the form that Shepard is interpreting? The ending itself with the crash landing was fine - it was open to interpretation and things can always be rebuilt. It would have been nice to see the entire crew in some form during this scene in some capacity but I guess we only get Joker, EDI and Tali...

So we play the DLC and are expected to replay the ending? 

At least with DAII it created a save in the mansion without anyone there and made it clear that this is POST-GAME and not to be taken literally.

No no, the Reaper mastermind just took that form because it was the form that was haunting Shepard the most (something that made me just stop and facepalm for a good few minutes). But yes, the DLC are expected to happen all before the game. Knowing that whatever we do won't have any actual effect, I don't see how they're going to market it. Though I don't know about "everything being rebuilt" part as we know that an exploding relay can take out an entire system, so in short we did what the Reapers wanted, we destroyed all life in Galaxy sans the few who survived in the Normandy.

[Aishman]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Domino 44G wrote...

I' m sorry if this will offend some of you but let's face it, 90% of the people on the net that are raging over the endings, saying that their done with Bioware, will be the first ones to buy the next ME3 Dlc, whether it be armor pack or a mission. And the other 10% of us who are truly taking a stand will throw our arms up in wonderment. That is how it always seems to be. Bioware knows this and that is why they will not give you a better ending. They know you'll buy more so why should they worry about it. They're going to stick to their guns as "proud artists" saying that they had the guts to create a controversial ending that challenged people's intellects as well as their skill. It's crap but that's what they will say, regardless.

How the hell can I buy DLC when I can't even bring myself to play any of the games in the series anymore?

The point of being a respectable artist is that you have to be willing to admit you failed.  Intentions aside, the endings did more harm than good, and the worst thing Bioware can do right now is say "well, screw you guys."

Seriously, they need to at least apologize.  Some people, myself included, actually feel hurt over this.

I know this is totally unrelated, but I love your avatar. It brings such...class.

[foundthisway]

glad to see other threads opening up to this BS its like a flash..ok the game ended...here r the after game credits

wish there was a cutscene or a thing like on dragon age origins at the end to tell you what happened and how your decisions effected the world (or galaxy in ME) espially shepards love interest

wtf BW i expected more out of this game after the 1st and 2nd was so good

Modifié par foundfukedup, 10 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[MACharlie1]

Aishman wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Aishman wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I figure this is the right place but...

This ending went TOTALLY over my head. I have no idea what was with the kid, why he was glittery and how the Reapers came to be or anything. Was he once an organic? He says Shepard was the first organic in the weird space section.

I think I understood the central beam ending: synthetic life becomes one with organic life at the expense of the Mass Relays but why did the Mass Relays have to be destroyed? When Shepard entered the "conduit" beam, where was my squad? Did they fry? 

(and the post-credits scene does not make one iota of sense - it should have closed Mass Effect the way it began with a scene from space panning onto Earth - this one simply doesn't feel like ME)

How exactly are these DLCs supposed to work? The game must have a hidden save as it reloads the game from pre-Cerberus base retaining anything left over. 

The kid was the head of the Reapers, the Reaper mastermind if you will. Your squad were somehow beamed into the Normandy (space magic, I dunno) and the DLCs are supposed to take place before the endings as Bioware has stated no post-game DLC. But, to be honest, I don't see why anyone would buy the DLC after those endings.

So the kid who died on Earth was - literally - the mastermind behind the Reapers? Was he once an organic? Was he actually a human child? Or is it just the form that Shepard is interpreting? The ending itself with the crash landing was fine - it was open to interpretation and things can always be rebuilt. It would have been nice to see the entire crew in some form during this scene in some capacity but I guess we only get Joker, EDI and Tali...

So we play the DLC and are expected to replay the ending? 

At least with DAII it created a save in the mansion without anyone there and made it clear that this is POST-GAME and not to be taken literally.

No no, the Reaper mastermind just took that form because it was the form that was haunting Shepard the most (something that made me just stop and facepalm for a good few minutes). But yes, the DLC are expected to happen all before the game. Knowing that whatever we do won't have any actual effect, I don't see how they're going to market it. Though I don't know about "everything being rebuilt" part as we know that an exploding relay can take out an entire system, so in short we did what the Reapers wanted, we destroyed all life in Galaxy sans the few who survived in the Normandy.

Would have been nice if the kid mentioned that instead of saying everything is psychobabble. 

I assumed that the bubble that enveloped the Mass Relays were containing the explosion. It would have been nice if Shepard mentioned "OH ****! If we do this then the Relays are going to destroy every system...I should know...*cough*" 

But also - I'm not 100% what happened with the Reapers. Were they sucked into the Citadel during it's destruction? All of them? Or did they simply retreat back into dark space? Or did they just shut down? This ending would have been accecptable if I didn't have questions. <_<

Previously, they built up Harbinger and the matter of Dark Energy and neither were utilized. Harbinger was mentioned - twice? I suppose it's good thing he didn't speak since he doesn't have the same class as Sovreign but still. I like closure. But no Dark Energy. No Gianna Parasini....no Kal'Reegar. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 10 mars 2012 - 07:03 .

[AxisEvolve]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Seriously, they need to at least apologize.  Some people, myself included, actually feel hurt over this.

Agreed. I know it's a fictional story but it still feels real to me and a lot of other people. I can't just rationalize away the hurt. It doesn't work that way.

Bioware shouldn't be insulted by the distress over the endings. They should be proud of the emotional connection they've made to their fans. But they must correct their mistake. They made a world within a video game feel real to me, something I have never experienced before and may never experience again.

I don't want 3 games worth of experience soured and destroyed. We should be able to play again beginning at Mass Effect 1 all the way to Mass Effect 3 with at least the possibility of some light at the end. I don't think I can devote any more time to something that will end in me feeling just.. sadness.

[Domino 44G]

I wasn't saying that I thought they were artistic or bold. I was saying that this is what they are saying. I think this is some of the worst writing I have seen in a while. I even wonder whether the person/people responsible for writing the end were the same bunch. The obvious lack of ME universe understanding is incredible. How can someone who has been so invested in the story forget that the destruction of a mass relay kills the system of which it shares. What professional writer would make such a tragic blunder. This is beyond incompetent. It must have been someone brought in to the project late, with little understanding of the facts that had been  layed out before. Idk. Just seems a bit odd to me for such a mistake. It's like forgetting you pets name. Just seems off.

Modifié par Domino 44G, 10 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[Darkieus]

It was brought in by someone into the project late.

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

[Maugrim]

Darkieus wrote...

It was brought in by someone into the project late.

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

Wow endings that at least sorta make sense!  I could've lived with those.

[thisisme8]

I feel like I'm the only one who paid any attention to the story in ME1. Every end to a story is dictated by its beginning, and ME1 was very clear on where the story was going to go and especially: how it had to end. They alluded to it constantly in ME1 and 2, so it wasn't any big surprise when it happened. I thought the endings were great, but mainly because that was the only feasible way the story could end. Maybe I'm just confused. Are people mad because that's not how they want the story to go, or because the endings just weren't fleshed out enough for them?

[DevilDoc8404]

I enjoy the "how can you kill the galaxy like this?" posts. Mass Effect was intended to be a trilogy. It was. And now, the trilogy is over.

Some of my favorite books are the "Song of Ice and Fire" books. Chiefly because, well, the good guys sometimes get their heads chopped off. Same here, it appears victory is not being turned into molecular goo by reapers, at great cost. How is this a bad thing in the end?

We are all entitled to think what we want. Fortunately, those that drive the stories are entitled to where those stories go. It's a part of art. Don't like this art? Find the one you do (how many times have I visited a "hip" art opening, and left wanting my friggen cash back....)

[lduchek]

termokanden wrote...

Even if the ending is horrible, it's not a bad game.

It's your business if you're never buying another BioWare product because of it, but I personally won't let that ruin the game for me.

For the record I've always been a sucker for happy endings. Mainly because real life has enough realistic mess going on already. You want to feel sad? Go take a look at the world around you

I agree and my post was written in the heat (or rather sorrow) of the moment.  I have read that ME was only written for three games.  OK.  That is sad because it is a wonderful franchise.  It has a loyal fan base and I think there would be money for the creator to extend the series, but it ended, so OK.  But why not have a happy ending for us romantics who play these blasted games for enjoyment.  I cannot believe it, myself, how attached I had gotten to my avatar.  I honestly cried when she died and now two days later, I am still grieving and
thinking of the end still brings tears to my eyes.  I cannot forgive BioWare for not providing one happy choice.  Blow up the gates but let the friends find peace on one of the colonies or something.  Not all this death and destruction.

[Wattoes]

I dont have a problem with somewhat catastrophic endings.  If shepard dies to save the world I can live with that.

My problem is everything else.
1) The man vs machine stuff they did is boring and retarded. It was painful to watch.
2) No closure to anything else you have done in the series.
3) Why is the normandy flying through a mass relay in the middle of all that? Why are people who charged the beam with me on the normandy 10 minutes later and flying out of the system? How did they even get on the normandy in the middle of the battle? (which would not have ended until sheps decision)

There is so much lazy and stupid in the ending it drives me crazy.

Modifié par Wattoes, 10 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[DKJaigen]

foundfukedup wrote...

glad to see other threads opening up to this BS its like a flash..ok the game ended...here r the after game credits

wish there was a cutscene or a thing like on dragon age origins at the end to tell you what happened and how your decisions effected the world (or galaxy in ME) espially shepards love interest

wtf BW i expected more out of this game after the 1st and 2nd was so good

People like you would like that but to be honest DA1 ending was 1 massive cluster****. By keeping the ending open and by not giving the any information they keep the path open for DLC or a sequal.

Modifié par DKJaigen, 10 mars 2012 - 12:17 .

[termokanden]

lduchek wrote..

I agree and my post was written in the heat (or rather sorrow) of the moment.  I have read that ME was only written for three games.  OK.  That is sad because it is a wonderful franchise.  It has a loyal fan base and I think there would be money for the creator to extend the series, but it ended, so OK.  But why not have a happy ending for us romantics who play these blasted games for enjoyment.  I cannot believe it, myself, how attached I had gotten to my avatar.  I honestly cried when she died and now two days later, I am still grieving and
thinking of the end still brings tears to my eyes.  I cannot forgive BioWare for not providing one happy choice.  Blow up the gates but let the friends find peace on one of the colonies or something.  Not all this death and destruction.

Well when you put it like that, I can only agree.

[foundthisway]

DKJaigen wrote...

foundfukedup wrote...

glad to see other threads opening up to this BS its like a flash..ok the game ended...here r the after game credits

wish there was a cutscene or a thing like on dragon age origins at the end to tell you what happened and how your decisions effected the world (or galaxy in ME) espially shepards love interest

wtf BW i expected more out of this game after the 1st and 2nd was so good

People like you would like that but to be honest DA1 ending was 1 massive cluster****. By keeping the ending open and by not giving the any information they keep the path open for DLC or a sequal.

no i didnt mean somthing EXACTLY like dragon age ending but a aftermath veiw by our decisions since its the last ME game... how each race fared? what happened to your squad mates? what happened to your LI? if shepard lived were did he go?

and most importain one....did Wrex get torn apart by his people?

lol

but overly all the game is awesome as hell really exciting game play its the best if the best in the trilogy

Modifié par foundfukedup, 10 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[thisisme8]

lduchek wrote...

termokanden wrote...

Even if the ending is horrible, it's not a bad game.

It's your business if you're never buying another BioWare product because of it, but I personally won't let that ruin the game for me.

For the record I've always been a sucker for happy endings. Mainly because real life has enough realistic mess going on already. You want to feel sad? Go take a look at the world around you

I agree and my post was written in the heat (or rather sorrow) of the moment.  I have read that ME was only written for three games.  OK.  That is sad because it is a wonderful franchise.  It has a loyal fan base and I think there would be money for the creator to extend the series, but it ended, so OK.  But why not have a happy ending for us romantics who play these blasted games for enjoyment.  I cannot believe it, myself, how attached I had gotten to my avatar.  I honestly cried when she died and now two days later, I am still grieving and
thinking of the end still brings tears to my eyes.  I cannot forgive BioWare for not providing one happy choice.  Blow up the gates but let the friends find peace on one of the colonies or something.  Not all this death and destruction.

You know, it is possible to have Shepard and Anderson survive the end, right?

[Wowlock]

As many of you guys said , I feel Emotionally ripped-off....

The choices ? Meh what good will they do when you destroy ALL LIFE in the universe ? I mean, was this the whole 3 games about ? You keep trying your best and do everything you can , form emotional bonds....only to see all of that gets blown up.

What kind of depressive guy wrote this ? '' We don't belive good in organics soo we will kill them or they will kill themselves '' ... I mean so much for a good message and Epic ending.

The players who invested their time and feelings to this trilogy DESERVED a better ending. And don't tell me '' Why does it matter, the game is good '' thing. Yes, game is good but all the game was about how it will END and when it ends like that, all the things you've done is literally meaningless.

Let me ask you this. Would you feel EPIC if Sauron would get the ring in the end and kill everyone at the Black Gate in LOTR 3 ? No... you would feel that is messed up. Well that's how I feel about this and I literally stopped playing until a better ending patch of a mod or something but I WON'T accept this endings for my journey.

Shepard , My Avatar, and all his efforts deserve better. And I ask you,would you play a game where you know whatever you do, everyone is gonna get screwed anyways ? So much for a ''Replayability value. '' Hell Renegade Shepard with no survivor ending at the ME2 sounds more appealing than these...

[foundthisway]

ME3 might be awesome but the ending did suck...it just doesnt seem right we should have more choices

[lduchek]

thisisme8 wrote...

lduchek wrote...

termokanden wrote...

Even if the ending is horrible, it's not a bad game.

It's your business if you're never buying another BioWare product because of it, but I personally won't let that ruin the game for me.

For the record I've always been a sucker for happy endings. Mainly because real life has enough realistic mess going on already. You want to feel sad? Go take a look at the world around you

I agree and my post was written in the heat (or rather sorrow) of the moment.  I have read that ME was only written for three games.  OK.  That is sad because it is a wonderful franchise.  It has a loyal fan base and I think there would be money for the creator to extend the series, but it ended, so OK.  But why not have a happy ending for us romantics who play these blasted games for enjoyment.  I cannot believe it, myself, how attached I had gotten to my avatar.  I honestly cried when she died and now two days later, I am still grieving and
thinking of the end still brings tears to my eyes.  I cannot forgive BioWare for not providing one happy choice.  Blow up the gates but let the friends find peace on one of the colonies or something.  Not all this death and destruction.

You know, it is possible to have Shepard and Anderson survive the end, right?

Sure, if you are old enough to remember the Dallas TV series, where it was all a dream, I guess they could come back, but that last explosion looked pretty final to me. Maybe the strange little kid will bring them back.

[Xellith]

Its not about having more choices. Its about having choices - period. Red light, Blue light, Green Light and you die no matter what unless you want to sacrifice the geth and all synthetic life? GET FKED bioware. Seriously. Where is my paragon ending? Where is my renegade ending? The entire story since ME1 was completely pointless as all your choices count for NOTHING.

[foundthisway]

i remember the catalyst told me my choices but didnt get to make a damn choice

the choice was already made for me and thats what i dont get but i can understand different scenarios playing..but jeez give us the paragon and renegade choices like Xellith said

[Belhawk]

my effectiveness rating was only 3556, so i saved earth, and i think the galaxy, but i died as did the mass relays. I wonder how BW can continue to make new games in the ME universe without the mass relays?
in ME2, u had to work hard for a bad ending, but in ME3 it is the reverse .
I wonder if BW is setting up for the next game in the ME universe, a Fallout game style where u r fighting husks and the rest to survive.

Modifié par Belhawk, 11 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[foundthisway]

Belhawk lol u got the ending i got i had 3400 some military strength u made a synergy with organics and synthetics and shepard dies and becomes a reaper which makes organics and synthetics become combined

i have the prima guide for ME3 and it says to have 4000 but below 5000 military strength unless u want anderson to die for shepard to live anderson lives if u have 4000 military strength at the end

Modifié par foundfukedup, 11 mars 2012 - 04:58 .

[Belhawk]

It looked like my shepard died. She pressed the blue control rods, and I think the repears died. The relays were all destroyed. They didn't explain which way to go for which ending.
I think synergy ending is when u jump into the light.
Red, I saw in a video today showed u shooting thinks up.
Blue, not sure. Maybe it's synergy. BW didn't explain which ending goes with which action.
jumping into the light does what?
choosing blue side(paragon) does what?
choosing red side(renegade) does what?
I choose blue side because i thought it was the paragon choice.
I found the Journal to be next to useless, just shows the basic quest with no updates except when completed it's greyed out.

[foundthisway]

i know man its because of the lack of after math ending that i hoped for...explain what shepard did and how it effected everyone.. explain what happened to every race..what happened to shepard...shepards LI and final conclusion

so your telling me u got a choice to pick from? i didnt

Modifié par foundfukedup, 11 mars 2012 - 05:21 .