20 réponses à ce sujet

[Esquin]

This is kind of crazy. My heterosexual male Shepard apparently cannot speak to Cortez without the game forcing me to either flirt with him or be a jerk to him.

I don't want to do either of those things. I just want to talk to the guy like any other member of my crew. I have no interest in romancing the guy.

Why have you made it so difficult to avoid romancing this guy? I don't want a relationship with the homosexual pilot. Is that really such a bad thing? 

[Vikali]

You mean Space Anders?

[Landline]

There's one conversation on the Citadel where you can pretty well say whether you Shepard is gay or not. Felt a bit weird for me seeing how I was already back with Tali.

But I get the feeling that they re-used a lot of the romance dialog as friendship dialog. Sometimes they just sounded like they were... closer then friends.

[ZzOoRrGg]

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

[Vikali]

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

That's how I felt with Jacob in ME2 which is why I avoided speaking to him when I could.

[Cuddlezarro]

Sparatus wrote...

I haven't played male Shepard yet, so I don't know if there is any difference between the dialog or not. But I didn't really notice anything too jerkish about the lower options.

theres nothing jerkish with the lower options

you dont get any paragon/renegade points from that scene even if you do romance him

seriously he doesnt even hit on you unless you specificly say you are looking for the right man and doesnt get all upset if you say you just want to be friends even if you do pick that option

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 09 mars 2012 - 04:19 .

[Vikali]

Sparatus wrote...

Ironically, Jacob is one of the few characters that has a friendship path in Mass Effect 2.

Excpet femshep speaks to him like she wants to jump his bones from the get-go.

I'm more interested in talking for a bit. /wiggles around

[CheeseEnchilada]

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

We had the middle ground. It was the neutral option. I miss it dearly.

[Cuddlezarro]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

We had the middle ground. It was the neutral option. I miss it dearly.

there is actually a middle option... it only shows up if your LI died in the suicide mission in me2 though

but still none of the options for the purgatory scene are jerkish

[Esquin]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

I haven't played male Shepard yet, so I don't know if there is any difference between the dialog or not. But I didn't really notice anything too jerkish about the lower options.

theres nothing jerkish with the lower options

you dont get any paragon/renegade points from that scene even if you do romance him

seriously he doesnt even hit on you unless you specificly say you are looking for the right man and doesnt get all upset if you say you just want to be friends even if you do pick that option

That makes it worse. I know there is nothing wrong with the character. He's so far not been anything but a poor guy who misses his husband. But then every now and then i'll get an opion from Shep that just seems way too personal. There was one in the second conversation. Can't remember it now though.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

I actually didn't have anybody try to flirt with me in my ME3 playthrough. Other than my established LI, of course. And I picked almost exclusively paragon options with everyone.

[upsettingshorts]

The paraphrases seem coldly direct because they're there for the player.

Shepard himself then delivers a polite, occasionally subtle signal.

"I'm here for the eyecandy." - Cortez, looking at a man

Your options are:
"I'm eye candy too."
"I'll be looking at the ladies."

If you pick the latter, Shepard admires the view on the stage, which is populated by women. Cortez gets the hint, says he wouldn't want you competing with him anyway, and you share a drink. It's perfectly fine. Relax and be straight (pun not intended) with him.

Gay NPCs aren't some trap being laid for you.

Cortez never thought my Shepard was into him romantically, but still thanked him for encouraging him and restoring his zeal for life.  Because you can be nice to him and not give signals, it's not that hard.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 09 mars 2012 - 06:38 .

[Esquin]

Thats my point Upsettingshorts and you've made it perfectly. Though reached a different conclusion.

Cortez the character isn't the problem. Sheps dialogue is the problem. And yes the options given do appear to be cold or flirty. What they end up being isn't the point. I don't want to risk accidentally starting something with this character. Not because of any connection to how I see gay people in the real world, but rather I know how easy it's been in the past to start a relationship in a bioware game with someone you might not be trying to.

[KingNothing125]

I am always amazed by how some people just can't help but get ninjamanced by people.

I found it quite easy to navigate my way into Cortez's friend zone without sounding like a jerk.

[Icesong]

ZzOoRrGg wrote...

Ever since ME2, I've felt that you can either be a complete dick to your crewmates, or flirt with and have sex with them.

Bioware, we need a middle ground. I wanted to be nice to the guy, but not "stroke him out" nice.

Maybe it's different for males but I never had this problem on a female. The only time I was ever forced to be a jerk was in ME1(Kaidan's bugged or something and the game will think you were in a relationship with him even if you weren't), and ME3 when James was trying to call you Lola.

[Arokel]

Never had this issue for male.

Maybe because me and Ash were together?

[ziloe]

I felt the same way about Kaiden. Just because my male Shep saved his life, doesn't mean I'm romantically interested.

[TheQuadLazer]

This is now a trap thread.
I've never had that problem wonder why?

[Arokel]

TheQuadLazer wrote...

This is now a trap thread.
I've never had that problem wonder why?

Trap thread?