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[Iztiak]

How could you do this? How could you possible do this? I loved this game.

I loved this series.

It was an amazing series, beyond any book I've read(And I read a lot), better story than any game i've played. I emphasized with Shepard, and felt so attached to every crew member...

But not only that, the series let me imagine that there was something else out there. Hope that there would be something out there like this, that we could get into space, and that we wouldn't be alone in this universe.

I don't believe that there is, really. If there is we'll never see it. I really liked thinking about it though.

Hell, I could imagine that humanity could progress to the point that we could get along with other species!...That our race wouldn't be infinitely limited to racism and war and making others miserable.

I mean ****, even if I'll never live to see anything amazing, this game helped me escape, I could imagine a world like the one I'll never see.

I loved the characters, the races, ESPECIALLY the mass relays and the Citadel. That despite incredible differences, thinking that humanity had the potential for something like this.

It was literally the best science fiction I've ever seen or read. I felt as attached to the characters as my own friends.

God, it's pathetic. But I felt more for this series than probably a good many other people did.

And the endings... Felt like an utter betrayal. All I wanted, I just would have liked one happy ending. Or ambiguous ending. I tried so hard. First playthrough I was at 6700 readiness and 100% from multiplayer. I just wanted one single thing to cheer me up from the horrible things I have going on right now.

And by god, it was the saddest thing I've ever seen. Shepard and Tali/Liara/Garrus/Ashley/Others never see each other again. Tali dies alone, Shepard never sees her again.

None of the other races will ever get the chance to cooperate and strive for something better. The relays are gone, and so is the incredible citadel.

And there's no hope for that to ever happen again. No new races in 50,000 years. No new citadel.

It was sadder than if the reapers had won. I've never felt so awful after playing or reading something I loved so much.

You showed us the fictional apex of the entire universe and then killed it, and salted the earth so it could never rise again.

I just would have liked one ending with Shepard with his friends. One single ending that I could imagine Shep going to Rio with Jacob, having another shooting contest with Garrus, helping Tali build her home on Rannoch.

You didn't have to show any of that... I just would have liked to been able to imagine it after I closed the game, and I drag myself through my boring 9-5 job.

Why did you guys do this? I am incredibly depressed.

Modifié par Iztiak, 09 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[TFulls]

You know when you think about it the ending completely has nothing to do with the rest of the series except seeing stuff blow up

[Evil_medved]

This is exactly why control is the best ending we have. With ReapShep controlling Reapers and citadel intact civilization can be rebuild in no time. Shepard woud be immortal is some way, and i bet he could make sure that his buddies are alright.

[Rhazesx]

TFulls wrote...

You know when you think about it the ending completely has nothing to do with the rest of the series except seeing stuff blow up

Micheal Bay directed and wrote it.

[Ariaya]

Iztiak, I feel your pain. And I agree that the ending could not have been worse. In fact, if the Reapers had straight out won (without that Catalyst nonsense and the Grandpa-story) at least I could have said that Shepard fought the good fight. I certainly wouldn't have been happy. But this....I can't imagine ever wanting to play the game again. The end is just too depressing. Mass Effect always had so much humor; I always felt good and uplifted when I played it. I loved getting lost in the detail of the universe and the different races. The ending just seems so incongruous with the rest of the series. I guess my Collector's Edition will make a decent coaster.

[XyleJKH]

I kind of think this whole series was one big experiment... see how attached people get to a fictional universe and then in one moment take it all away from them. I'm one of them.... why bioware...

[Iztiak]

Ariaya wrote...

Mass Effect always had so much humor; I always felt good and uplifted when I played it. I loved getting lost in the detail of the universe and the different races.

You're so right. Every Mass Effect ending had at least some option that was good. :S It was so fun, it was uplifting, as you said.

I had never felt better than when I did in ME2 and I had saved everyone... In this one, my choices didn't do anything. They did nothing. ):

[OblivionDawn]

XyleJKH wrote...

I kind of think this whole series was one big experiment... see how attached people get to a fictional universe and then in one moment take it all away from them. I'm one of them.... why bioware...

I thought the same damn thing at the end.

I was like:

"This is social engineering at its finest. I never want to play another video game again after that, I just want to become a productive member of society because I'm clearly an idiot for investing so much time and emotion into a fictional universe."

And that was BEFORE the scene after the credits. You know, the one that tells you that the entire series was basically a BEDTIME STORY.

You have failed Bioware.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 09 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[SilencedScream]

As I posted in another thread, I'll post the same here:

"Wait until you play the game before you judge the ending!"


Cheers to all the people who told me that in the week prior to release.

[Olueq]

Yeah, really. Bioware, let us allow the reapers to win. That would be a better ending. Not joking. This ending that we have now is driving me insane.

[rahf226]

Yeah the ending totally ruined it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the game, it was great. From the beginning until the retaking of earth it was awesome and I probably will have several replays of it. But I will stop playing it before the ending and just imagine the ending I want instead.
I am disappointed in bioware. I have been a fan of this company since Baldurs Gate, and in recent years their games have taken some serious hits. DAII pisssed me off with the loads of bugs and now ME3 has such a craptastic ending to the series. It is official I will never buy another bioware game again, not even used for $10.

[Olueq]

SilencedScream wrote...

As I posted in another thread, I'll post the same here:

"Wait until you play the game before you judge the ending!"


Cheers to all the people who told me that in the week prior to release.

Probably people just trying to optimistic and rational. I mean really, how could anyone possibly think that this is a good ending?

[SilencedScream]

Olueq wrote...

SilencedScream wrote...

As I posted in another thread, I'll post the same here:

"Wait until you play the game before you judge the ending!"


Cheers to all the people who told me that in the week prior to release.

Probably people just trying to optimistic and rational. I mean really, how could anyone possibly think that this is a good ending?

No idea, but I'll be damned if there weren't people - who had even seen the ending videos for themselves - try to defend it before release.

There's a reason why there was a thread with 540 pages about the endings BEFORE the game was even available.

[Edrick1976]

Does anyone know of an official reply from BioWare/EA about how most people hate the ending of ME3? Or do they just not give a crap?

[Luigitornado]

I feel the same as you for the most part, but the difference is that I liked the endings. I liked it how it made me depressed, it felt complete, like an actual ending; not hollywood bull-endings that are tested by audiences and then changed so they are better received.

I'm believe in the "eyes of the creator," and I truly believe the ending to be artistic and wonderful.

I'm sorry for those who are really disappointed.

As for that "Michael Bay" comment...Michael Bay would have given you the fairy tale ending you wanted.

[Olueq]

Luigitornado wrote...

I feel the same as you for the most part, but the difference is that I liked the endings. I liked it how it made me depressed, it felt complete, like an actual ending; not hollywood bull-endings that are tested by audiences and then changed so they are better received.

I'm believe in the "eyes of the creator," and I truly believe the ending to be artistic and wonderful.

I'm sorry for those who are really disappointed.

As for that "Michael Bay" comment...Michael Bay would have given you the fairy tale ending you wanted.

Are you people really that dense? We arent asking for a fairy tale ending. We are asking for a satisfying ending. None of our choices matter and allt he ending are essentially the same. All of which make absolutles no sense, provide no closure, and so many plot holes. You are happy because the ending was sad. Why not give the player the option? Not every lieks those endings. Even then though, the endings are still terrible. They make no sense.

[Iztiak]

The thing is, your choices should have mattered! Not the same sad ending for everyone, no matter what... Our choices should have made a difference.

A sad ending for, a bittersweet ending, a happy ending. Not all terribly written sad ones.

****, I don't mind a sad ending even. Like I said, even the reapers winning would have been preferable. I would have been depressed, but not quite as much...

Modifié par Iztiak, 09 mars 2012 - 04:56 .

[Luigitornado]

Olueq wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

I feel the same as you for the most part, but the difference is that I liked the endings. I liked it how it made me depressed, it felt complete, like an actual ending; not hollywood bull-endings that are tested by audiences and then changed so they are better received.

I'm believe in the "eyes of the creator," and I truly believe the ending to be artistic and wonderful.

I'm sorry for those who are really disappointed.

As for that "Michael Bay" comment...Michael Bay would have given you the fairy tale ending you wanted.

Are you people really that dense? We arent asking for a fairy tale ending. We are asking for a satisfying ending. None of our choices matter and allt he ending are essentially the same. All of which make absolutles no sense, provide no closure, and so many plot holes. You are happy because the ending was sad. Why not give the player the option? Not every lieks those endings. Even then though, the endings are still terrible. They make no sense.

I'm not happy because it was sad, I was happy because how it made me feel kind of depressed. I'm fairly confident that's what its intention was, and it feels like closure to me.

Getting to this point was the ride for me. My choices may have not directly affected the ending, but it affected how I played the game and the ride to the finish.

What are the plot holes anyway? I'm hearing ramblings about them, but they don't seem like that big of a deal. I want to think they are being made a big deal because people hate the endings and need something to pick at to make them feel better.

Modifié par Luigitornado, 09 mars 2012 - 05:04 .

[mitimai]

The endings are... well, let's say BW better stab me in the heart. Why should I make peace, help people when my choices never important? Besides, it isn't make any sense that my friends were on Normandy when they should to stay in London.

I'm depressed, truly.

[rahf226]

I have a solution already, I will replay the game since I liked it up until the ending. I will just stop before the final mission and imagine the ending I want. I doubt bioware will fix it. DAII is still rife with problems and they are in no hurry to remedy them, I don't see much of a chance the ME developers will put the time into this one.

[panamakira]

Indeed. "Why?"

As to that only Bioware can answer.

[SilencedScream]

Luigitornado wrote...


I'm not happy because it was sad, I was happy because how it made me feel kind of depressed. I'm fairly confident that's what its intention was, and it feels like closure to me.

Getting to this point was the ride for me. My choices may have not directly affected the ending, but it affected how I played the game and the ride to the finish.

What are the plot holes anyway? I'm hearing ramblings about them, but they don't seem like that big of a deal. I want to think they are being made a big deal because people hate the endings and need something to pick at to make them feel better.

My take is that I'm playing to be entertained, not to be reminded that life sucks.

That aside (I'm not arguing the point, just stating my reasoning), someone could give you a better list of plot holes, but the major ones I'm seeing are:
1.) When rushing the beam at the end, why are you two squadmates no longer with you - and, in some instances - back on the Normandy for the ending? How'd they "teleport" back to space? And, even if they boarded the Normandy and took off - leaving Sheaprd behind - why?

2.) Why the hell is Joker skating off through space? If he's "dodging" the mass relay, how did he know it was being destroyed? And if he's dodging the mass relay (because it might be destructive to the Normandy), what's that say about all the other ships orbiting the Earth? Did they all get destroyed as well?

And then, not so much plot holes, but small tiffs (that add to your depression):
1.) Imbred colony for the survivors of the Normandy.
2.) Likely Tali and Garrus starving to death (it can be assumed that, if the final cutscene of grandfather/grandson is the colony, that the planet was sustainable for humans and - thus - not for Tali and Garrus's biochemistry)
3.) Did you give the Quarians their home world back? Awesome - except none of their military is ever going to see it, since they can no longer get home because you destroyed the mass relays (technically, they COULD get home, but that's literally YEARS of travel without the relays).

You're the hero, Commander. Thanks for saving the day.

Modifié par SilencedScream, 09 mars 2012 - 05:24 .

[OblivionDawn]

Luigitornado wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

I feel the same as you for the most part, but the difference is that I liked the endings. I liked it how it made me depressed, it felt complete, like an actual ending; not hollywood bull-endings that are tested by audiences and then changed so they are better received.

I'm believe in the "eyes of the creator," and I truly believe the ending to be artistic and wonderful.

I'm sorry for those who are really disappointed.

As for that "Michael Bay" comment...Michael Bay would have given you the fairy tale ending you wanted.

Are you people really that dense? We arent asking for a fairy tale ending. We are asking for a satisfying ending. None of our choices matter and allt he ending are essentially the same. All of which make absolutles no sense, provide no closure, and so many plot holes. You are happy because the ending was sad. Why not give the player the option? Not every lieks those endings. Even then though, the endings are still terrible. They make no sense.

I'm not happy because it was sad, I was happy because how it made me feel kind of depressed. I'm fairly confident that's what its intention was, and it feels like closure to me.

Getting to this point was the ride for me. My choices may have not directly affected the ending, but it affected how I played the game and the ride to the finish.

What are the plot holes anyway? I'm hearing ramblings about them, but they don't seem like that big of a deal. I want to think they are being made a big deal because people hate the endings and need something to pick at to make them feel better.

Plotholes like:

How did the Illusive Man manage to get inside the Citadel?

How did my teammates end up on the Normandy?

What are the turians and quarians in the Sol system going to do since there aren't any planets there that are habitable to them?

Why was the AI at the end a kid?

Who the hell was the AI at the end?

Why couldn't he just tell the Reapers to leave? He might as well have considering that the alternative was their destruction.

How did the Citadel get "moved?"

Why does it seem that Shepard has killed more innocent people than any of his enemies during the course of the Mass Effect series?

And much, much more.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 09 mars 2012 - 05:27 .

[Luigitornado]

So basically the ending was too metaphysical and all of you hated it. That's cool. I guess. The only plot hole I can see as being somewhat of a problem is why your team abandoned you when rushing the beam.

Everything else can be explained without that big of a leap in logic.

As for pondering about the Normandy/crew's fate, yeah it is sad, but it's obvious that Bioware did a poor communicating the scene as it was probably meant to be decrypted as hope/serenity.

I feel as if the larger picture of chaos/nature of the universe allows me to accept the ending. Is it bitter sweet? Of course...I kind of feel empty, but what a damn fine piece of entertainment to make me feel this way.

[SilencedScream]

Luigitornado wrote...

So basically the ending was too metaphysical and all of you hated it. That's cool. I guess. The only plot hole I can see as being somewhat of a problem is why your team abandoned you when rushing the beam.

Everything else can be explained without that big of a leap in logic.

As for pondering about the Normandy/crew's fate, yeah it is sad, but it's obvious that Bioware did a poor communicating the scene as it was probably meant to be decrypted as hope/serenity.

I feel as if the larger picture of chaos/nature of the universe allows me to accept the ending. Is it bitter sweet? Of course...I kind of feel empty, but what a damn fine piece of entertainment to make me feel this way.

I'd like to hear an explanation about why Joker - the guy who's in the doorway, giving you cover at the end of ME2 - is fleeing through space, away from the fight, from an energy blast that physically damages the ship (when all it's supposed to do is act similar to an EMP towards AI). Joker shouldn't be running and the ship shouldn't be physically damage by the relay.