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[mupp3tz]

Let's pretend that the developers actually ARE trying to do something. Given that it appears like they want to wait for Europe market reactions, how long do you think it would take them to "make a fix"? Part of me feels like it would be too late. I feel like my bitterness and frustration would have seeped in already to the point that I would be distrustful of any DLC's they release. It would take something REALLY GREAT... but the sour taste would still be in my mouth.

[My Intentions]

Yayyy there's hope... :|

[Captain_Obvious]

My Intentions wrote...

Yayyy there's hope... :|

That's what I said while playing all of ME.  Turns out I was wrong.  

[Devin the Wanderer]

For all the people going on about emotional investment not happening in anything that doesn't affect you... well, if that wasn't the case, we'd have no such things as celebrities and any sports event you or family/friends are not directly participating in would mean nothing as well. So yeah, it matters to alot of people (not me, but I respect the viewpoint none-the-less, it's why I'm a fan of CHOICES and as an independent game developer cause far too much work for myself...)

I know Bioware probably has it rough right now, what with that recent personal attack on one of their staff and the massive negative response to the endings (as a side note, I did not like the endings, I ****ing LOVE this game up to the last part of the ending...) and I really really hope that the producer is being straight with us. And that it won't cost us the price of the game AGAIN. I already paid almost 90$ after taxes for this game

So I'll keep my fingers crossed and wait to see what happens.

[Sl4sh3r]

Assuming that they are going to fix this train wreck...

If it's not better then LotSB, it's not worth it.

[Arthorius]

Oh yes I get it now! The game we all played was only the part 1 of the last episode! And soon they're gonna give us the REAL ending after an another adventure of love and awesome!

Oh, wait. Except they most likely won't.

[Luvinn]

paynesgrey wrote...

Can't say I feel bad for the devs. They *chose* this. There was plenty of grief and sacrifice throughout the course of the game, and then they slap down a Star Child plot device and 3 equally wretched, horrible endings that show everything you did was meaningless? No. They *chose* this. Kind of like the Sopranos writers feeling bad at how little people appreciated their ending.The game has absolutely zero replay value, even makes replaying the earlier 2 pointless.

Got to agree. Not only did it ruin what was a great game, but a great series. I have zero desire to not only replay through ME1 and 2, but I don't even want to play me3 as my renegade character. Its a darn shame too. Would be some fun replay value if there just wasn't terrible endings.

[recentio]

They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Modifié par recentio, 10 mars 2012 - 05:42 .

[Richpur]

GBGriffin wrote...

Maybe it was Buzz Aldrin? Maybe his experiences in space showed him the futility and insignificance of life, and he would only sign on to the project if no happy ending was given because humanity doesn't deserve one?

The point of fiction is to distract ourselves from the futility and insignificance of life.

[Ultra Prism]

Bioware pulls their Renegade move by killing us, Shepards!!!! Now they realized how many fans are upset, I want epilogue DLC, or new ending for the game...I just feel my heart got ripped out along with 80 bucks went on N7 collector edition ... thank you for tearing the hell out of us Bioware

[Sywen]

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Nope not listening at all.

[astrophyzcs]

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Yeah man, we totally don't have a dozen reasons as to why these endings are fundamentally wrong when compared with the rest of the series. We just don't understand.

Give me a damn break.

[tausra]

We are thought of as the vocal minority, the type who complain for the sake of complaining. As I said a few pages back: how BioWare responds will reveal quite a bit about the company and their mindset. Do we get the rehashed, rehearsed Nothing-to-see-here PR hand wave or will we see a real response? If BioWare decides to re do the endings will it be DLC with a price tag or a patch? Every response reveals how much, or how little, they think of the fans. It also shows whether or not the company has any scruples left. My future use of any BIoWare product hinges on their treatment of this event. I hope they make the right choice.

[masterp1975]

They're watching, not listening.

[Bereman08]

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Eh, that's one person's twitter feed, and responses from others who may or may not be BW employees.  That's not to say they are listening beyond taking feedback from megathreads (which is, unfortunately, not always a detailed process...at some point you have to condense trends and ideas into something focused enough to present to those who make decisions), or that there is some godsend patch coming to fix or change the endings...

But lumping all of Bioware into one category because of a few responses on Twitter isn't exactly a productive action.

Modifié par Bereman08, 10 mars 2012 - 05:52 .

[recentio]

Bereman08 wrote...

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Eh, that's one person's twitter feed, and responses from others who may or may not be BW employees.  That's not to say they are listening beyond taking feedback from megathreads (which is, unfortunately, not always a detailed process...at some point you have to condense trends and ideas into something focused enough to present to those who make decisions), or that there is some godsend patch coming to fix or change the endings...

But lumping all of Bioware into one category because of a few responses on Twitter isn't exactly a productive action.

Neither is trusting them because of a few vague comments on Twitter -- ala the OP of this thread.

[Dranume]

I have to admit, how they handle this will effect the way I view Bioware from here on out. Fingers Crossed that they own up to this "Hey, we see that we did it wrong, we wanted to make something different and artful but we can see clearly that it is not well received, for that we apologize. If the ME community will bare with us while we go back to the think tank and create something better that offers a more diverse outcome based on your choices."

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Oh something will come. Eventually.

[KRAETZNER]

I hope that if they do allow us to get a good ending, that actually makes some amount of sense, that we will be allowed to continue after it in an improved version of Mass Effect 2's version. They could even add a post campaign hub world so you have something new to explore. These two features would of made the game near perfect in my opinion.

[christrek1982]

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

wow I feel kinda bad but I love ME 3 but hate the end the story up untill the end is a masterpeace it just looks like the ending was left of what we wanted

[Luigitornado]

Dranume wrote...

I have to admit, how they handle this will effect the way I view Bioware from here on out. Fingers Crossed that they own up to this "Hey, we see that we did it wrong, we wanted to make something different and artful but we can see clearly that it is not well received, for that we apologize. If the ME community will bare with us while we go back to the think tank and create something better that offers a more diverse outcome based on your choices."

Why would you want them to apologize? I just want in depth explanation about why they went about the ending how they did...like a commentary or something.

Prob will never get it...

[Landline]

recentio wrote...

*snip*

They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Not a good sign.

I'll wait until Bioware releases an official statement, but things do god look good.

God damn it, you call down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.

[leianajade]

recentio wrote...



They're not listening. They think we don't count.

For the record, I don't hate ME at all -- I love it. I only hate the ending bit with that idiot kid robot and the inexplicable doom of the Normandy.

Making DLC for us would cost Bioware time and money. Yelling and threatening them will not give them incentive to do anything. If, however, the community acts with grace and maturity, the company is far more likely to listen to us.

This is why we as a community need to handle this situation carefully if we really want a resolution. 

[Rob8228]

Dranume wrote...

I have to admit, how they handle this will effect the way I view Bioware from here on out. Fingers Crossed that they own up to this "Hey, we see that we did it wrong, we wanted to make something different and artful but we can see clearly that it is not well received, for that we apologize. If the ME community will bare with us while we go back to the think tank and create something better that offers a more diverse outcome based on your choices."

Agreed. This will determine if I ever touch a Bioware product again.

[Benrosan]

Funny to read the ME twitter feed (as well the the staff's various feeds) and see them desperately trying to avoid the pissed off elephant in the room.