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[hismastersvoice]

Ellestor wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I honestly don't care what they come up with at this point, I just want a true "Shepard lives" ending, not Shepard on the brink of death, barely breathing with burnt up armor.

I want him to destroy the damn Reapers, have Joker pull his ass off the Citadel in the Normandy and end up in the arms of and embracing his LI (for me, Liara) and be okay.

That's easy enough to want, but can you see some way for it to be accomplished? How do you want the Reapers destroyed? What did you want the Crucible to do? Upload a virus?

As opposed to flashing everyone with one of three neon colors? Hell yes.

[toots1221]

I get that the devs must be feeling a overwhelmed right now. It's probably been a rough week and no matter how disappointed people are there is never an excuse for personal attacks and rudeness. And I have great respect for them, they produced an amazing game, right up until the end it was one of the best games I have ever played. I'm just desperately hoping that they hear us and give us something, anything, to make the ending better.

[Vandalisme]

Their descicion with the ending was either incredibly smart, or unbelivably stupid

[Katsuya Kaiba]

Vandalisme wrote...

Their descicion with the ending was either incredibly smart, or unbelivably stupid

They have a Quad, I'll give them that.

[toots1221]

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

*rubs temples* Bioware fans, as of late, have been getting REALLY extreme, I will give the company that. Absolutely. I slapped my palm against my head when I heard about people threatening one of the devs. I rolled my eyes over people flipping out over the DLC. I shrugged when people were bashing the Multiplayer before anybody played it. And I sighed when people started bashing the game on Metacritic. This is not normal fandom behavior, I don't know what got into the fans when it came to this game around release time and some of the behavior was uncalled for.

But, as one of the fans who is more...sane...than some of them, I must kindly ask they take a step back, block out some of the more EXTREME posts on this subject, and read the ones that are very much written with thought put into them. Fans of the game who know the material. The same fans who point out Deception errors. These are the fans who are imbedded into your lore, invested time into reading and knowing about it, fans who also invested money because of their love of the lore.

The endings are not well, they are not what we think of when we think of the quality of Bioware. They are not of the same level of quality as the previous endings, of the games, of the game it ends Bioware. If you have something wonderful planned down the line, then I wait patiently for it. However, if you wish to let this sit as is, I implore you, as a fan, to take that step back and look at it again. We have been with you through three games, many books, and other media. We would like some closure at some point.

Thank you.

You just said what I was trying to say so much better than I did.

[Phydeaux314]

toots1221 wrote...

I get that the devs must be feeling a overwhelmed right now. It's probably been a rough week and no matter how disappointed people are there is never an excuse for personal attacks and rudeness. And I have great respect for them, they produced an amazing game, right up until the end it was one of the best games I have ever played. I'm just desperately hoping that they hear us and give us something, anything, to make the ending better.

Given that as of Friday night, they were stuck in SF due to plane issues, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Like I've said before... let's wait. Even though it hurts.

[deathscythe517]

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

[Tazzmission]

Vandalisme wrote...

Their descicion with the ending was either incredibly smart, or unbelivably stupid

or you know like i said the endings couldve been the big tweak do to the leaked script


im not complaining but ever notice how alot of things from the script are in and yet certain things have been changed?

changed from old script
vs 2.0

kai leng being downgraded

the endings

thane killing udina

the 4 things i just posted have been tweaked if you think about it

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 10:20 .

[Katsuya Kaiba]

deathscythe517 wrote...

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

Believe it or not...Bioware does listen. It listened to us when it came to Dragon Age 2, and I have to say the work they put into Legacy, which was their 'We're sorry' project was amazing. Give them a time to let everything sink in, see what they do afterwards.

[Tazzmission]

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

deathscythe517 wrote...

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

Believe it or not...Bioware does listen. It listened to us when it came to Dragon Age 2, and I have to say the work they put into Legacy, which was their 'We're sorry' project was amazing. Give them a time to let everything sink in, see what they do afterwards.

tbh i think thats the mistake bioware is making

this is just my opinion as a fan of mass effect but cant we all agree ever since bioware stated we listen to the fans that the fans themselves do in fact take advantage of it and hold them to it?


like i said im not trying to get a war going im just trying to throw in some sanity for a change

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[deathscythe517]

So the reaction to a leak is to completely change it because it was leaked? I'm sorry, I don't buy that, Gears of War's script was leaked and they didn't feel like anyone had to change a damn thing and people were content with the story with the ending feeling appropriate for that type of game. With Mass Effect 3, the consensus is that the game is amazing up to the ending, which feels horribly inappropriate and out of place in a mostly groundes science fiction space opera/war story against a FORMERLY lovecraftian horror.

[Katsuya Kaiba]

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

deathscythe517 wrote...

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

Believe it or not...Bioware does listen. It listened to us when it came to Dragon Age 2, and I have to say the work they put into Legacy, which was their 'We're sorry' project was amazing. Give them a time to let everything sink in, see what they do afterwards.

tbh i think thats the mistake bioware is making

this is just my opinion as a fan of mass effect but cant we all agree ever since bioware stated we listen to the fans that the fans themselves do in fact take advantage of it and hold them to it?

I honestly think that's why they get as much FIRE as they do. Valve has
the same type of fanbase but they don't put out as many games as Bioware
does so the fan input isn't really seen or be put into any action as it
were. Because Bioware is so social with it's fans, I think they take it
for granted. Helpful, constructive input is always good for a company.
However, when they start getting a mob mentality things can go south quickly. Bioware is seen as the stepping stone of the current trend of RPGs and because they have that label, people expect alot out of them. It's like Squaresoft back in the day and I think fans are afraid Bioware might go down the same path.

[Tazzmission]

deathscythe517 wrote...

So the reaction to a leak is to completely change it because it was leaked? I'm sorry, I don't buy that, Gears of War's script was leaked and they didn't feel like anyone had to change a damn thing and people were content with the story with the ending feeling appropriate for that type of game. With Mass Effect 3, the consensus is that the game is amazing up to the ending, which feels horribly inappropriate and out of place in a mostly groundes science fiction space opera/war story against a FORMERLY lovecraftian horror.

like i said it is a theory and the most likely possibility

another poster brought up some other endings regarding dark energy that was thrown out so 


also note that bioware and epic are 2 completley differnt comapnies

bioware is more of a hush hush dont reveal anything wile epic dosent really care and i say this NOT in a negative way either


one companie likes to keep it a suprise wile the other basicly cares less either way because to epic gears will sell regardless spoiled or not

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 10:28 .

[deathscythe517]

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

deathscythe517 wrote...

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

Believe it or not...Bioware does listen. It listened to us when it came to Dragon Age 2, and I have to say the work they put into Legacy, which was their 'We're sorry' project was amazing. Give them a time to let everything sink in, see what they do afterwards.

tbh i think thats the mistake bioware is making

this is just my opinion as a fan of mass effect but cant we all agree ever since bioware stated we listen to the fans that the fans themselves do in fact take advantage of it and hold them to it?


like i said im not trying to get a war going im just trying to throw in some sanity for a change

Sorry, I'm not buying it, you think you're the beacon of sanity, which is egotistical, and frankly up until now you've been a complete jerk to the many many -many- people who have had legitimate gripes with the game whether they were themselves nutters or not. You've been condescending, you've been rude, and overall no one has any reason to like or agree with you. I respect that you enjoy the ending, but don't tell other people to shush up and be quiet just because you think Bioware, as a company or as individual employees, have incredibly frail egos and need to be safeguarded from harsh criticism. Telling them to jump off a cliff is wrong, but giving them a scathing a review is not.

[lavosslayer]

Prince_Valiant wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

 The truth this way comes...

Can someone explain me this truth in one clear sentence, please? I've looked in this thread, but there's only different speculation therein, isn't?

In one sentence: Shepard is really unconscious on Earth still and the last 10 mins of the game are an indoctrination dream sequence testing his resolve to follow through and destroy the reapers. Which is why if you choose to do so and you have a high enough  score you will see Shepard wake up in the rubble on Earth where he was incapacitated.


That was actually two sentences but much more concise then reading everything else that was mentioned in that thread. However, if you want evidence to support the concept then you might have to read through the thread to find most of it...which is easy...just look for the long numbered posts and most of the info is in there.

[Ultra Prism]

a lot of my friends were interested in getting ME3, I told them hold off until I finish the game so you all won't feel that game is worthless, I told them ME1 and ME2 story are great....Now I am shamed to say them ME3 ending will send you to the abyss !!!

[Vandalisme]

while hoping for more ending dlcs, whats more likeley is that they did this on purpose (im not usually the kind that goes for the conspiracy theories, and ide pay whatever for the dlcs, concidering ive got all the dlc for ME1 and ME2 including armor sets etc) so they could make another epilogue "explaining" things. Its rotten, but thats what i think. Just look at the prothean dlc. It was too awesome for day1 dlc

[Tazzmission]

deathscythe517 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

deathscythe517 wrote...

Vandalisme, most people are feeling that it is the latter without saying so. We're trying to dress it up in pretty words and hope that Bioware will listen, but they probably won't, or I'm horribly cynical, so I really don't give a crap about. When you make a product and people pay for it you should expect criticism and be able to take it, it is your job as a storyteller to sort through the criticisms, ignore the insults, and learn from your mistakes to do better. If you're too sensitive for that then you have no right to write for anyone but yourself.

Believe it or not...Bioware does listen. It listened to us when it came to Dragon Age 2, and I have to say the work they put into Legacy, which was their 'We're sorry' project was amazing. Give them a time to let everything sink in, see what they do afterwards.

tbh i think thats the mistake bioware is making

this is just my opinion as a fan of mass effect but cant we all agree ever since bioware stated we listen to the fans that the fans themselves do in fact take advantage of it and hold them to it?


like i said im not trying to get a war going im just trying to throw in some sanity for a change

Sorry, I'm not buying it, you think you're the beacon of sanity, which is egotistical, and frankly up until now you've been a complete jerk to the many many -many- people who have had legitimate gripes with the game whether they were themselves nutters or not. You've been condescending, you've been rude, and overall no one has any reason to like or agree with you. I respect that you enjoy the ending, but don't tell other people to shush up and be quiet just because you think Bioware, as a company or as individual employees, have incredibly frail egos and need to be safeguarded from harsh criticism. Telling them to jump off a cliff is wrong, but giving them a scathing a review is not.

so wait im a jerk because i dont go out of my way to be some internet bad ass by calling the writters lazy let alone make up a very small majority of people who liked the ending?



if you want to see a jerk look in a mirror because i dont sit here 24 hours a day and obsess about how awfull a 10 minute cutscene is

i mean ffs people grow a pair and act adult about it.

theres no reason for name calling let alone multiple threads on the same damn topic.

you know what after this display by you people i hope bioware dosent do dlc because you people will never be happy

its you people who are killing this franchise not the devs


ill give the examples

mwaaaaaaah i hate the mako

me2 comes along makos gone


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwah me2 isnt a rpg they sold out and catered to the shooters


mmmmmmmmmmmwah i want me1 squad back


me3 comes along with more rpg elements


wahwahwah no veichle exploration



mmmmmmmmmmwuaaaaaa i want me2 squad back
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwah the endings are terrible so the whole game fails

you people sound like some cry babies who need to get out more because you dont know what the heck you want

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 10:40 .

[picodeath123]

I think that the dream theory is the most popular hope right now from what I've read at least, I could be horribly wrong. But it would make sense as to why some ancient cosmos being you see is the form of the child you see die, some even go so far as saying the kid never actually exists as no one but shepard really saw him, even the soldiers seemed oblivious to a small child running around on the battlefield. No one looked at him.

[Katsuya Kaiba]

*Looks at Tazzmission's post*

I liked the mako.

[Tazzmission]

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

*Looks at Tazzmission's post*

I liked the mako.

good to know im just saying to the people who demand bioware owe them something im gona call those fans out on there bs because they have in fact moaned about what i posted


go search around march 2011 you'll see what i mean


truth is fans are never happy

only thing is im the gutsy one to actually say it

the devs cant because it makes them look bad from a career standpoint


its easy to deny any involvment when you can just blame everything on ea or bioware sinc epeople dont want to take respocibility for there comments

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[Trisskit]

lavosslayer wrote...

 The truth this way comes...

God, I hope so.