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[Tazzmission]

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Katsuya Kaiba wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

truth is fans are never happy

only thing is im the gutsy one to actually say it

you just can't make them ALL happy.

thats the hard part its not doable

you cant just somehow cater to every fan

hell if something like that does happen hey congrats you achived something great but realistcly its easier said than done

You're right, you can't please every fan but if you can please the majority of them, where's the harm in giving it a shot?

now think on your question

what majority are we talking about? do we cater just strictly to old rpg fans or does a franchise try to do its best to cater to all types of fans?

because the way people are reacting on the board is they feel the ending should just be nothing but rpg

so does bioware cave to them and lose other fan bases?

as a fan of the lore and franchise mass effect is a series every gamer should play

hell i got maybe 10 people on a forum i used to post on to give me2 a go and they loved it and these guys were die hard uncharted and cod fans

My solution is to do a DLC, like Fallout 3's Broken Steel. If people don't want it, they don't have to buy it. And the people that do can pay for it. *Shrugs* Let the consumer decide.

i think thats how itll play out

but you know whats gona happen? itll be the from ashes argument all over again like omg it was part of the story ea just wanted to con another 10 bucks out of us

people who say they will pay for better endings i will call bluff because history says otherwise

A very EASY way to avoid that is to not recycle levels and areas. If you give them new areas, new dialog and the like, people will see Bioware worked on it. If a 'real' ending was on disk, I think people would have found it by now. This is something Bioware has to work for therefore... 10 bucks. Case in point: Legacy for Dragon Age 2.

dlc wise what they should do is continue it with liara and crew on the planet ( i say this because ali hillis joked about a liara spin off so its a possibility)

have us play as her and find a way to get off it and back to earth and the ending everyone wants can be better

[Phydeaux314]

Don't tantalize me with that sort of thing, Tazz, it's cruel -.-

[Tazzmission]

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Don't tantalize me with that sort of thing, Tazz, it's cruel -.-

with what? my liara dlc idea?

[paynesgrey]

They're not listening. They think all the new twitter followers are people who are happy about the game.

[Wompoo]

Painaid wrote...

We should not have to pay for an ending that should have come with the game. I have no faith in Bioware and it is impossible for them to right the wrongs they have made against us.

With the ****ty endings they gave us, it showed how out of touch they are with their fans. No further input needed.

This in a way.

To say I am bitterly disappointed in the ending I recieved... would be the understatement of the decade for me. !,2, and now 3. All I want to do is delete this game and drop it in a dust bin. However other family members want to play it and all I can say is, god help them, because they are setting themselves up for a kick in the guts. I don't play games to get what I was served. I play them for the feel good moments and yes they can still dramatic. And I am sick and tired of substandard endings the entire industry pumps out... plus the need for every man and dev dogs desire to make a dark rpg. I don't watch dramas because of this type of thing. Frankly, had I known what was coming I would NOT, have bought this game period.

[LordHelfort]

Wompoo wrote...

Painaid wrote...

We should not have to pay for an ending that should have come with the game. I have no faith in Bioware and it is impossible for them to right the wrongs they have made against us.

With the ****ty endings they gave us, it showed how out of touch they are with their fans. No further input needed.

This in a way.

To say I am bitterly disappointed in the ending I recieved... would be the understatement of the decade for me. !,2, and now 3. All I want to do is delete this game and drop it in a dust bin. However other family members want to play it and all I can say is, god help them, because they are setting themselves up for a kick in the guts. I don't play games to get what I was served. I play them for the feel good moments and yes they can still dramatic. And I am sick and tired of substandard endings the entire industry pumps out... plus the need for every man and dev dogs desire to make a dark rpg. I don't watch dramas because of this type of thing. Frankly, had I known what was coming I would NOT, have bought this game period.

Same, I would have never bought it (I would have acquired it through other means, borrowed from a friend etc.) because I would have never shelled out 60 dollars for that ending. Hopefully the anger affects their bottom line on ME3 and TOR so they get the message.

ME3 was never that dark, just take a look at the heroic ending of ME1 where Shepard survives in what has to be a cutscene that got everyone to scream "No, He can't be de- YES!" as he comes charging over the mound of wreckage. There was always the option to have a good ending, period.

[Rhazesx]

The battle for Earth was epic enough for me. All I needed was for Shepard to activate the crucible and kill all the Reapers and then 10 or so minutes of videos explaining what happened afterwards based on my choices. That would have given me the closure I needed and I would gladly be waiting for dlc and future Bioware games like Mass Effect.

[nitefyre410]

I don't mind the Three choices at the end with  The Catalyst but whole thing rough thrown together mess at the end. There needs to be more explanation as to its origins and its nature. How did the interacting with Crucible change it? Instead having Shepard facing all that alone... they could have a confrontation betweenHarbinger/ Kei Leng on last time ala Saren/Soveriegn... and the dialogue show down with TIM then moved to catalyst. Once there depending on where its TIM, Anderson or both survive starts to build on how the all the endings play out.  

and how the conversation with Catalyst goes.. but  what we got was completely unpolished compared to the rest of the game.  You can  just look at it and tell they just ran out of steam instead of making  that last final push to knock out of the park...  TIM would have been a lot better if was fitting the indoctrination all the up to the point... it would have shown just how strong his  will is and made him damn good character and antagonist.  Instead he comes off just like Saren.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 10 mars 2012 - 12:33 .

[Hexxys]

I'm not paying for any DLC that isn't a new set of endings.

Why? Because there's no point to any DLC if the endings aren't fixed. Without the mass relays, there Is. No. Mass. Effect. No Citadel, no galactic civilization, no choice but to accept your demise. Why bother?

[cannedcream]

The ending was insulting and hurtful. Know I'm late to the party on this, but... I have never played a game before who's characters I learned to love and care about as deeply as in ME. The writing was beautiful, and ME3 had been the best yet...

But then that ending happened. And, I'm sorry, but EVERYTHING I did and worked for since the first game, it all felt like it was for nothing.

So, yes, if BW puts of a $10 better ending DLC, I'll buy it and curse their black souls the entire time, but it'll be worth it to give this series a proper ending.

[Xellith]

Im betting they are just hoping this whole thing will blow over.

[The Harmonizer]

The ending was over before it started, way too short, didnt explain anything, didndt seem logical at all. Really cheap.

However Mass Relays dont really matter since the galactic civilisations can make them themselves eventually, just like the prothean scientists in Ilos made the "Conduit" to the citadel, so they could go there and change the citadel so it wouldnt be another death trap, hence we survived ME 1.

[Xellith]

paynesgrey wrote...

They're not listening. They think all the new twitter followers are people who are happy about the game.

Ive sent them various tweets and have yet to recieve a reply worth a damn.

[AlphaScrewySam]

What do you want to bet they say all the hate and were like '****, let's get to work before we lose every fan we've ever had'.

[SmartBase]

"They're listening"? el oh el. This reminds me of all the ME2 squadmate support threads. We all know how pathetic their roles turned out in the game, and people want Bioware to retcon the ending(s)? Not happening.

[LordHelfort]

SmartBase wrote...

"They're listening"? el oh el. This reminds me of all the ME2 squadmate support threads. We all know how pathetic their roles turned out in the game, and people want Bioware to retcon the ending(s)? Not happening.

This is very true, the amount of time spent on them is extremely limited, and probably the second largest complaint after the endings. Hopefully this could be fixed and tossed in as part of another DLC (which of course is entirely irrelevant unless the endings are fixed!).

[Kenthen]

Oh they're always listening to us, but they don't hear us.

[RPGmom28]

I'm not feeling optimistic about DLC that changes the ending options, because I think DLC will be some random missions that were already planned before the ME3 Ending Sucks So Bad I'm Not Replaying It Ever fallout. They didn't think we would freak out this much, so the DLC was probably prerecorded with voice acting and so forth before any of this ever happened. I'm afraid it's in stone. Bleh.

[Trishot]

Kenthen wrote...

Oh they're always listening to us, but they don't hear us.

One can't listen if he does't hear us. One can hear us and not listen though. I believe you got it backwards


On topic:
No way they'll fix the ending, that would be acknowledgement of being in error.

[Kenthen]

Trishot wrote...

Kenthen wrote...

Oh they're always listening to us, but they don't hear us.

One can't listen if he does't hear us. One can hear us and not listen though. I believe you got it backwards


On topic:
No way they'll fix the ending, that would be acknowledgement of being in error.

Not really, I was actually referencing White Men Can't Jump. You can listen to Jimi but that doesn't mean you're hearing him. Snap.

[Jackal7713]

Phydeaux314 wrote...

From Michael Gamble's (producer for ME3) twitter account: "Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll [sic] - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

So, something is coming. We don't know what.

But... I'm willing to have faith. This game, aside from the ending, has probably been the best one I've ever played, up there with titles like Half-Life 2 and Portal 2. This is word that we've not been abandoned, and for me at least, that is all I need.

/salute

We eagerly await more information, and for what it's worth... I sympathize. It must be rough seeing all the people come here and and say "THIS IS SO AMAZING BUT THE ENDING RUINS IT FOR ME" when you know you have plans.

This is the same guy that said ME3 wasn't going to pull a "Lost" ending? I'm sorry but until I see a statement from him on BSN, I say he is just doing damage control. After all, they were talking about a ME MMO.

[Jackal7713]

Xellith wrote...

Im betting they are just hoping this whole thing will blow over.

If they do that, then they might as well just kiss good bye to decent sales numbers for the next 3 years+. Also say good bye for any DLC saes for this game and Multi-player will be gone with in 6 months.

[Penguins]

I'm pretty much sure it will happen. Why? Because people are offering money.

Now, whether or not people should support it... I don't know. Its like telling gaming companies, "Don't finish your game! We'll pay more to get the real ending later!

[lucidfox]

True that, Penguins. Where there's demand, there's supply. Begging BioWare for a paid alternate ending will only encourage them and set a dangerous precedent. Don't do this. Just imagine the ending you wanted. It's fiction, anyway.

[death2sarge]

To make sure Bioware is listening, should we un-follow them on Twitter, Facebook, etc. Just get a trend going?