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[jbajcar]

The game is good except for the ending. It was poorly executed in so so many ways.

[Dangerfoot]

I guess most of the forum community wasn't expecting an RPG, I must've been confused in thinking that's what I was getting.

[nitefyre410]

Wavanova wrote...

I think people are letting the ending sour things a bit too much for them. I absolutely hate the ending too, but I won't deny that I was loving every minute of the game up until then. It took all the RPG elements that were more prominent in ME1, fused them with the team-building elements of ME2, and had some amazing additions to the story.

Come on guys, it's only been 3 days since the game was released. If you powered through it so fast without putting it down much, you must have found it good in some way. I know the ending is pretty much soul-crushing, but this is still game of the year material. I'd probably go with an 85 for ME3, though I still prefer ME2.

 

Right to there is a qoute that fitting this the endings are a plot because they are not first line in the Mass Effect legacy...

there the last, the impressions that left   we would to tell people about. The problem with the forced down endings and I have been saying this forever its they are just poorly written.  These endings are poorly writen compared to the rest of the game in which you have a story of hope and overcoming impossible odds  or choose for to deep tragdic and terrible along with everything in between.    Even the Snyergy ending which is the one I  was able to get  makes little sense because nothing is explained. They wanted provoke thought but thought about what... the nature life, conflict,etc, etc.  Like I said in another post its like Bioware got to the endings and were playing with concepts just because they were "Cool" and "Sounded Cool" but they really had no understanding of the meaning.

[Warkyd]

ME3 is a decent game, problem is i like it better the first time i played it when it was called ME2.  ME3 doesnt do anything ME2 didnt do years ago, except ruin what was a great story.

Catalyst: We must kill you before you kill yourself, we could stop you from killing yourself, but that would be far too easy and make too much sense.  And never you mind why we built something that would prevent me from accomplishing my noble task.  I built something that would prevent me from realizing the entire point of my existence, which was dumb, but you must destroy all the mass relays now.

50/100

Modifié par Warkyd, 09 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[MrChowderClam]

Warkyd wrote...

ME3 is a decent game, problem is i like it better the first time i played it when it was called ME2.  ME3 doesnt do anything ME2 didnt do years ago, except ruin what was a great story.

50/100

wat

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[Admoniter]

Honestly while the body of the endings of themselves are all very samey at their core they are fine by me. My problem is their presentation which IMO is severely lacking, essentially it feel like Bioware hand picked one of the worst aspect of DX: HR and just pasted it in there. That and the narrative surrounding the endings is for lack of a better word nonsensical, where was the normandy going, why did my squad that was with me suddenly teleport to it. Not a particular fan of all the space magic going on in them but w/e ME was never hard sci-fi so I'm not going to me too harsh on them for that (with the exception of the synergy ending... which is by far the most space magicy of the 3.)

Anyways point is you don't like the scores ME3 is getting, so what? No one is forcing you to conform to their views. Seriously I'm not much of a fan of ME2 and I don't think it deserved the scores it got, but it got what it got and those scores are what they are. Who are you to say they are wrong? You think ME3 destroyed the franchise and has no replay value; neato you have an opinion just like everyone else and yours is no more important or correct than theirs.

[Tony208]

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

You're missing the point. What happens in the cinematics may be almost identical, but the outcome of each ending will be entirely different in the years that happen post-ending. They leave it up to the player to imagine what each ending would yield for the galaxy after the reaper threat is gone.

Lamest excuse I've heard yet

With every choice you made during the series, you got to see what happened next as a result... until the ending. Now you have to guess the rest.

If Shepard is dead and the aliens and humans are now fighting each other on Earth for what's left, then show it. Or maybe they're all working together to find ways to get out of the Sol system. Just don't be lazy and give us this "The Shepard" nonsense.

Modifié par Tony208, 09 mars 2012 - 10:44 .

[AlexMBrennan]

There's an obvious conflict of interests here. If you're a game magazine then you depend on a) advertising and getting early access to games so overly negative (i.e. at all critical) reviews will be problematic.

Further, they have to pretend that it's real science and will have certain quantifiable criteria - graphics, game play fun... but how do you quantify the writing? So, the total will inevitably be an average of easily quantifiable things that may not be a good indicator of overall customer satisfction at all.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 09 mars 2012 - 11:15 .

[Biotic Sage]

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

It's a dark sci-fi trilogy. Ending was in perfect taste imho...and the rest of the game was amazing. Their 95 was spot on. Flame-on fellow BSNers

Exactly.  Kudos to Bioware for not comprimising their vision for fan-fiction.  Although I disagree with the 95 being spot on.  It's a 10/10.  As the only video game to ever make me cry, I can't rate it any less than that.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 09 mars 2012 - 11:17 .

[Aeowyn]

Biotic Sage wrote...

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

It's a dark sci-fi trilogy. Ending was in perfect taste imho...and the rest of the game was amazing. Their 95 was spot on. Flame-on fellow BSNers

Exactly.  Kudos to Bioware for not comprimising their vision for fan-fiction.  Although I disagree with the 95 being spot on.  It's a 10/10.  As the only video game to ever make me cry, I can't rate it any less than that.

FYI, the ME games have been referred to as a space-opera by both developers and critics. Not once have I heard it being referred to as "dark sci-fi". And "fan-fiction"? Really? Some of us actually have valid complaints about the endings. Saying that we want "fan-fiction" endings is unfair.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 09 mars 2012 - 11:27 .

[Kronner]

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

And on a final note...the endings cinematics may all share similar traits...but that does not mean they are anything alike. The endings are meant to be open and "cliff-hangerish" to challenge the player to use his/her imagination to decipher what they think happens after the cutscene ends. If you do that, and think about it good and well...you will clearly understand that none of the endings are anything alike (minus the cutscenes of course)

Exactly this! It is incredibly tough to pick between the three choices and it challenges you to come up with your own view on the ME universe and the synthetics vs. organics conflict, so it's just perfect. I just wish the Normandy crash scene never existed.

[Biotic Sage]

Aeowyn wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

It's a dark sci-fi trilogy. Ending was in perfect taste imho...and the rest of the game was amazing. Their 95 was spot on. Flame-on fellow BSNers

Exactly.  Kudos to Bioware for not comprimising their vision for fan-fiction.  Although I disagree with the 95 being spot on.  It's a 10/10.  As the only video game to ever make me cry, I can't rate it any less than that.

FYI, the ME games have been referred to as a space-opera by both developers and critics. Not once have I heard it being referred to as "dark sci-fi". And "fan-fiction"? Really? Some of us actually have valid complaints about the endings. Saying that we want "fan-fiction" endings is unfair.

Well the Krogan genophage, the genocide of the Geth/Quarian war, Batarian enslavement, the First Contact War, and Reapers who harvest all advanced organic civilizations every 50,000 years have been around since the very first game.  I can name about 50 other examples of parts in ME1 or ME2 that were hardly uplifting or light hearted.  That's a lot of death and darkness to be put in the same category as Star Wars.  Yes there are some dark aspects to Star Wars but they aren't what the films focus on, that's not the tone, unlike Mass Effect.  So they can call it "space opera" or "space adventure" or whatever they want.  All I've ever seen was dark sci-fi.  There's marketing speak, and then there's what the product actually is.

And I'm sorry, but fan-fiction is exactly what it is when people want an ending that differs from the creators.  True auteurs loathe fan fiction, and comprimising their overall vision would be doing a disservice to the work.

[Spaceguy5]

Yes, I think the game earned a 95. Other than the crap ending (which really, was less than 10 minutes out of a very long game), it was excellent. I had very few other issues with the story nor (single player) gameplay.

It CERTAINLY doesn't deserve the user score it has on Metacritic.

[GBGriffin]

The game itself, overall, is pretty solid. Ending just wrecks the game/series for me. I enjoyed everything up until the final mission...at which point it just fell apart.

[AlexXIV]

I really have to say it deserves a 95 for the most part. I think reviewers didn't dare to downrate it because of the horrible ending. Because everything else seems to have improved from ME1/2. It will probably be downplayed as 'matter of taste' but if the BSN is anything to judge by the end ruined the game, if not more. I mean they probably wanted to make a sad ending. But this was probably taken too literally.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 10 mars 2012 - 01:50 .

[Militarized]

The difference between the press and user reviews on that site is telling. The press did their job with giving an over all rating though, MOST of the game was good. I would have rated it an 82 out of a 100 due to rushed romances and lack of RPG elements in an RPG game.

However as a fan I rate it at a 2 for destroying my beloved ****ing universe. It's as if Star Wars death star didn't just blow up alderaan but the entire galaxy in a F U moment.

[Eterna]

Tesclo wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I guess professional reviewers just don't see the ending as dragging down the entire game the way a lot of us do.

or paid not to care.

I'm sure Bioware and EA paid off 50 critics to lie. 

But seriously, you're deluded. 

[Sashimi_taco]

Mass Effect 3 is the best game I have ever played UNTIL the last 4 minutes.

Uhg they are just so bad I can't even deal with it.

[Si-Shen]

For the game as a whole, I don't think 95 is far off, most people (myself included) have issues with the last few minutes of the game. For me its mostly that the ending did not feel like it belonged, they litterally threw all my work and choices out the window to make it worthless and took away any choice I had in my game. That however does not lessen the over all game by so much that 95 seems unimaginable.

Modifié par Si-Shen, 10 mars 2012 - 02:00 .