I mean, if the normandy did not get stranded... and FTL travel had the speed of 120 lightyears a day instead of 12....
Those two things would have made a nice bitter sweet ending, since as is current, not only do you die... you get your friends killed, and make FTL travel imposible, 12 ligtyears day? it would take 10,000 days to cross the milky way. thats 28 years... that is beyond practical.... atleast 3 years is... aceptable...
I mean I dont even really mind shepards death, I mean it is a kick in the face sure, but I half expected shepard to die... but puting the galaxy back in the stone age, and traping every one in the middle of nowhere... thats a bit to far. :\\
Am I the ony one thinking the endings HAD potential...
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:47
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It had potential certainly - if the game was horrific I don't think there would the huge uproar that there is, people would have simply said lolwhat and moved on. That's what is really sad about this whole thing. They had created the best game so far and as quickly destroyed it.
Potential was negated as soon as colored laser beams became your choice in a ripped off ending from Deus Ex.
Potential was negated as soon as colored laser beams became your choice in a ripped off ending from Deus Ex.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:50
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Sunneko wrote...
I mean, if the normandy did not get stranded... and FTL travel had the speed of 120 lightyears a day instead of 12....
Those two things would have made a nice bitter sweet ending, since as is current, not only do you die... you get your friends killed, and make FTL travel imposible, 12 ligtyears day? it would take 10,000 days to cross the milky way. thats 28 years... that is beyond practical.... atleast 3 years is... aceptable...
I mean I dont even really mind shepards death, I mean it is a kick in the face sure, but I half expected shepard to die... but puting the galaxy back in the stone age, and traping every one in the middle of nowhere... thats a bit to far. :
Shepard's 'mandatory' death is sort of a problem because he is like Indiana Jones; the idea behind the character is that is a larger than life hero who always wins. His death should be the consequence in all endings of a low EMS score, including the 4th "Walk Away" option, because the player didn't put enough effort into it. Possbile exception is Synthesis, where self-sacrifice for utopia is appropriate.
It is one thing to make the price of his victory destroying the Mass Relays, which would have been hard enough to swallow for people who've come to know and love this setting. It is totally another to make it strand the companions, kill Shepard, and make gathering the fleet pointless; a fleet with all the primary species and a high enough EMS should have been able to break the cycle without Star Child's input.
Modifié par Aedan276, 11 mars 2012 - 08:53 .
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:52
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I'm a little more to the "extreme" crowd in that I demand two things.
1. A happy ending of some sort. I want Shepard to be with his LI more than anything.
2. An epilogue. If this is the last we see of Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex, etc. we deserve to at least what happens to them.
1. A happy ending of some sort. I want Shepard to be with his LI more than anything.
2. An epilogue. If this is the last we see of Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex, etc. we deserve to at least what happens to them.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:56
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The three basic options of control, synthesis and destroy are not bad. Though of course synthesis would have to be totally redone, because its current incarnation is ludicrous space magic that doesn't make any sense and resolves nothing.
But there's no reason to introduce space god in the final minutes to give you these choices.
-TIM can easily give you the control choice, after his research yields an adaptation to the crucible that allows you to take over the Reapers. This becomes a true renegade ending, where you take your place as galactic emperor.
-Anderson urges you to use the Crucible to simply destroy the Reapers.
-I really don't know how to make synthesis work. Maybe some sort of accord between the reapers and the galaxy where they are not destroyed, but they don't become your puppets either. Might require some serious speech checks and a long conversation with Harbinger.
After the choice then there is an epilogue taking into account all your other choices as well.
Space god has no place in any of this. Relays blowing up have no place in any of this. Normandy crew turning into disgusting cowards and fleeing has no place in this.
But there's no reason to introduce space god in the final minutes to give you these choices.
-TIM can easily give you the control choice, after his research yields an adaptation to the crucible that allows you to take over the Reapers. This becomes a true renegade ending, where you take your place as galactic emperor.
-Anderson urges you to use the Crucible to simply destroy the Reapers.
-I really don't know how to make synthesis work. Maybe some sort of accord between the reapers and the galaxy where they are not destroyed, but they don't become your puppets either. Might require some serious speech checks and a long conversation with Harbinger.
After the choice then there is an epilogue taking into account all your other choices as well.
Space god has no place in any of this. Relays blowing up have no place in any of this. Normandy crew turning into disgusting cowards and fleeing has no place in this.
Modifié par aimlessgun, 11 mars 2012 - 08:58 .
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:58
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aimlessgun wrote...
The three basic options of control, synthesis and destroy are not bad. Though of course synthesis would have to be totally redone, because its current incarnation is ludicrous space magic that doesn't make any sense and resolves nothing.
But there's no reason to introduce space god in the final minutes to give you these choices.
-TIM can easily give you the control choice, after his research yields an adaptation to the crucible that allows you to take over the Reapers. This becomes a true renegade ending, where you take your place as galactic emperor.
-Anderson urges you to of course use the Crucible to simply destroy the Reapers.
-I really don't know how to make synthesis work. Maybe some sort of accord between the reapers and the galaxy where they are not destroyed, but they don't become your puppets either. Might require some serious speech checks and a long conversation with Harbinger.
After the choice then there is an epilogue taking into account all your other choices as well.
Space god has no place in any of this. Relays blowing up have no place in any of this. Normandy crew turning into disgusting cowards and fleeing has no place in this.
The options would be nice if the theme of the trilogy was synthetic vs. organic. It wasn't though. That juxtaposed in the last 5 minutes.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:58
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The endings are fine as they are, they're just barely expanded upon. For instance, lets take the control ending. Shepard now commands a fleet of reapers. We don't know how much power he/she has over them, but clearly its enough to stop them from...uh, reapin. So that sounds like the setup for something awesome, right? Either Shepard is going to take over the galaxy, or maybe become some sort of super big galactic protector...!
Nope. Same epilogue.
Nope. Same epilogue.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:59
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They had a plot of potential. However the ultimate lack of choice, the endings are pretty much identical, and throwing together a deus ex machina 'god child' at the eleventh hour pretty much ruined them. Had they backwritten the god child into the story, given us more examples of why synthetics and organics can NEVER get along (except we've seen they can through EDI and the Geth), plus giving us a chance to actually converse with it properly and the option to tell it exactly where we think it can shove it's head - then the endings would have been fine.
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