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Can you save Mordin if Wrex is alive?


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#1
Derk Henderson

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So I got to the end of Tuchanka, confident that my sky-high renegade score would let me talk Mordin into sabotaging the cure. I knew I was going to have to kill Wrex later, but that was okay - I was going to do it the other way next time.

Unfortunately, there was no such option, and I am left with either switching to Paragon at the last minute and curing the genophage, or murdering Mordin in cold blood and THEN being forced to kill Wrex later when he figures it out.

What gives? From what I've been able to find, the only way to save Mordin seems to be having Wrex already dead. Is there any way to save Mordin without Wrex having been dead since Mass Effect 1? This one really pisses me off and I almost want to just abandon this playthrough - killing Mordin is the worst-feeling decision I've had to make as a renegade and the fact that I have to lose both Wrex and Mordin sucks. Do I have to talk to Mordin before the mission? Please tell me I missed something somewhere.

Bearbeitet von Derk Henderson, 09 März 2012 - 10:36 .


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If I remember correctly then Wrex wasn't in Mass Effect 1. ME1 had Grunt, while ME2 introduced Wrex. Haven't played ME1 in a couple years though, with only 1 play-through.

I had Wrex alive, so can't answer on your specific question, but if you cure the genophage Mordin still dies. He sacrifice himself in order to finish the cure implementation.

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False wrote...

If I remember correctly then Wrex wasn't in Mass Effect 1. ME1 had Grunt, while ME2 introduced Wrex. Haven't played ME1 in a couple years though, with only 1 play-through.

I had Wrex alive, so can't answer on your specific question, but if you cure the genophage Mordin still dies. He sacrifice himself in order to finish the cure implementation.


Wrex was in Me1, grun in me2.


And i dunno too, i got mordin killed.

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izmirtheastarach

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I cannot imagine betraying Wrex, so this is not likely to ever be an issue for me.

Bearbeitet von izmirtheastarach, 11 März 2012 - 06:20 .


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There's no way to save Mordin. He wants to cure the genophage and that's what he's going to end his life attempting to do. Period. The end.

You *cannot* convince him otherwise. You'll have to abandon your cold rutheless renegade kill everything stance in order to save Mordin's life for the few minutes it takes for him to finish the cure. At least the Paragon choice here saves Wrex's life.

Bearbeitet von StarcloudSWG, 11 März 2012 - 06:44 .

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Why would you want to deny him his epic end while singing? HOW COULD YOU?!
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You cannot save Mordin if you have Wrex instead of Wreave.

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Commander Shopper wrote...

Why would you want to deny him his epic end while singing? HOW COULD YOU?!

Was he singing? I don't remember that. I remember thinking he should be singing as the building collapses, but instead said his 'had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong'

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Mordin had to die, someone else might have gotten such a moving death wrong. Well, maybe not Legion.

Honestly, if there was a "Wrex lives and Mordin lives, everyone picks posies in the meadow", I think Mass Effect 3 would have lost the largest emotional punch it had. And that's not to diminish the power of other scenes like Rannoch or Thessia.
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All-a-Mort wrote...

Commander Shopper wrote...

Why would you want to deny him his epic end while singing? HOW COULD YOU?!

Was he singing? I don't remember that. I remember thinking he should be singing as the building collapses, but instead said his 'had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong'


In the paragon ending, he says "has to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong" then goes up in an elevator.
He fixes the cure, and starts to sing as the building collapses..  I am the very model of a sci....  BOOM.

so sad :(

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StarcloudSWG wrote...

There's no way to save Mordin. He wants to cure the genophage and that's what he's going to end his life attempting to do. Period. The end.

You *cannot* convince him otherwise. You'll have to abandon your cold rutheless renegade kill everything stance in order to save Mordin's life for the few minutes it takes for him to finish the cure. At least the Paragon choice here saves Wrex's life.


wrex and eve dead= Convince Mordin to not do it.

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The Only way to save Mordin is to kill Wrex and Destroy Maelon's data.

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Deflagratio wrote...

Mordin had to die, someone else might have gotten such a moving death wrong. Well, maybe not Legion.

Honestly, if there was a "Wrex lives and Mordin lives, everyone picks posies in the meadow", I think Mass Effect 3 would have lost the largest emotional punch it had. And that's not to diminish the power of other scenes like Rannoch or Thessia.


Mordin's death is actually more gutrenching if you stab him in the back. I don't endorse it, but I did do it just to see how it played out. It's even more tragic.

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Mordin's death is actually more gutrenching if you stab him in the back. I don't endorse it, but I did do it just to see how it played out. It's even more tragic.

Yeah, and if you go the paragon route in dialogue, you can see how it really eats at Shepard.  Garrus suspects Shepard did something wrong, but Shepard tries to brush him off.  Later on in the game, Shepard can confess to Garrus about what happened.  Garrus doesn't get mad at Shepard for killing Mordin, simply blaming the war instead and saying that while he would never have done something like that a few months ago, he would have done the same thing if it meant saving his planet.

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Only way to convince Mordin to live is for Wrex to be dead and for Eve to die.

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You can just not recruit Wrex in ME1. That way he is alive somewhere out there, but doesn't become the Krogan boss, am I right?

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Justin2k wrote...
In the paragon ending, he says "has to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong" then goes up in an elevator.
He fixes the cure, and starts to sing as the building collapses..  I am the very model of a sci....  BOOM.

so sad :(


I took the Paragon endong (and the paragon interrupt) and he didn't sing.

" A new begining. For everyone." (or something like that)

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Wrex has to die, Eve has to die, Maelon's data can't be saved. Then you can convince him to fool Wreav and live.

Bearbeitet von Lazamoose, 17 März 2012 - 05:52 .


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My decision to kill Mordin was the hardest virtual choice I've ever had to make. The crazy thing is that, after my initial trigger-happy choice to do so, I was so overwhelmed I reset the game. Then, playing through a second time... I decided to do it again. I still think I made the right choice to get salarian and krogan aid, although obviously had I foreseen the consequences I would have gone a different route. Now, both Wrex and Mordin are dead (I didn't shoot Urdnot though), but the Reapers are stopped and the krogan are weak.

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and in the end the decision doesn't matter :(

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Lazamoose wrote...

Wrex has to die, Eve has to die, Maelon's data can't be saved. Then you can convince him to fool Wreav and live.


Makes sense I think because Wreav really doesn't make it look like the Krogan learned their lesson while with Wrex and Eve, they do.

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And you don't even need to fake the cure for Salarian aid later on anyway lol.

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Rahabzu wrote...

And you don't even need to fake the cure for Salarian aid later on anyway lol.



If you are careful.  Yes.

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Rahabzu wrote...

And you don't even need to fake the cure for Salarian aid later on anyway lol.


You do if you want FULL Salarian aid.  The Salaranans have two fleets and the only way you get both is to sabotage the cure.

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Necroed to point out that Mordin probably died of old age before the explosion got him. Seriously - how much longer was he gonna live? I have a cockatiel that will probably live longer. No sense in saving him anyway - he died that we all might cry.

Bearbeitet von hoodaticus, 30 Mai 2012 - 02:17 .