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[Doctoglethorpe]

I never said every game gets score bombed. Just the ones the dark side of the internets gaming population pick out and wave their tiny dicks at in some childish act of internet mob-rule. But they are such a minority with such an insignificant voice in the world that they abuse systems like metacritic and bomb an arbitrary little number to get peoples attention. Its really quite pathetic if you htink about it, how low and unimportant of an act it is yet how much effort they put into doing it and making sure people know that they are doing it. Just laughable.

Its just another one of the immature things a bunch of insecure people do in the anonymity of the internet. Congrats on them, nobody really cares.

[Mizar_Panzar]

Technology has improved, there's more gaming consoles around, there's more games around, therefore the demand of the gamers will go up.

Plus, EA's customer service has always been frustrating to deal with which cause a lot of ire.

ME3 itself? For the 10 hours I've spent on it so far I would personally give it a 7/10, solid game but expected a little more. If the ending is that bad, that could drop to a 6/10.

[Freakiq]

poofpoof wrote...

neubourn wrote...

And as i stated above, BW isnt the first...they did the same exact thing to MW3, and i GUARANTEE it will happen again when a game comes out that pisses off fanboys in some way shape or form.

Errr...isn't that the whole point of user reviews? The "fanboys" as you call them were upset with the game and therefore gave it a low score. Thats how it works, If people werent so disapointed in the game the score would be higher. It's very simple really.

The thing is most of the 0-score reviews came out seconds after Metacritic opened ME3 up for reviews.

A large majority of them come from new accounts and don't give any other reasons than "homogay" and "bad end"

[brunomalta]

It all comes down to a matter of taste and personal opinion. But i´m sure that many people critize the game using only what they hear second hand. I´m not saying that this is the case here. Sure, ME 3 is not perfect but i think it is far away from a 0 also.

[Taciter]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...
Implying that the Metacritic score bombers represent the ''fanbase'' in any way, shape or form.

lol.

...implying that Metacritic 'user reviews' are entirely insignificant.

lulz

[BadgerladDK]

poofpoof wrote...

neubourn wrote...

poofpoof wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Taciter wrote...

Regardless of how much or how little credence you place in metacritic polls, it's a fool who doesn't seek to question why.

I already know why.  Fanboys score-bomb games for the most childish reasons on that site all the time.  Thats all there is to it. 

Then why have all Bioware games up until Dragon age 2 very high user scores? Clearly people think that something went wrong with that game, and it seems to continue with mass effect 3

Because up until recently, people didnt know they could score bomb a review site like metacritic, and/or misunderstood the importance metacritic has. MW3 started that trend i believe.

If you seriously want to believe that hundreds of "0" scores are in ANY WAY valid as a measure of what people think of a game, then more power to you, i guess. 

Skyrim has a user score of 8.1.  But I guess you mean that only Bioware games gets "score bombed" ? It's all a conspiracy right?

He just gave you an example of a non-Bioware game that got review bombed... MW 3. 

[Freakiq]

Taciter wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...
Implying that the Metacritic score bombers represent the ''fanbase'' in any way, shape or form.

lol.

...implying that Metacritic 'user reviews' are entirely insignificant.

lulz

They are when they were written before the game was even released. 

[neubourn]

poofpoof wrote...

neubourn wrote...

And as i stated above, BW isnt the first...they did the same exact thing to MW3, and i GUARANTEE it will happen again when a game comes out that pisses off fanboys in some way shape or form.

Errr...isn't that the whole point of user reviews? The "fanboys" as you call them were upset with the game and therefore gave it a low score. Thats how it works, If people werent so disapointed in the game the score would be higher. It's very simple really.

Even though they were "upset" at a game they 1)didnt have yet (because apparently they all cancelled their pre-orders anyway!!) and 2)havent played/finished yett?

Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion...but that opinion has to be based on substance...i.e. actually OWNING Me3, PLAYING it, and FINISHING it (or most of it anyway).  Thats like saying "i dont own a Honda, but they suck, and im going to rate the new Honda a zero now, because thats my opinion, and im entitled to it!!"

[Taciter]

Freakiq wrote...

Taciter wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...
Implying that the Metacritic score bombers represent the ''fanbase'' in any way, shape or form.

lol.

...implying that Metacritic 'user reviews' are entirely insignificant.

lulz

They are when they were written before the game was even released. 

As I understand it, the reviews start from the day of release. But yes, I highly doubt all the reviews will be legitimate. I'm sure in time, as more players complete their ME3 'experience', the score will start to more accurately reflect the opinions of the 'player base' at large

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 01:52 .

[LeBurns]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I already know why.  Fanboys score-bomb games for the most childish reasons on that site all the time.  Thats all there is to it. 

Read my sig.  I added that quote when DA2 left it's mark.  It seems to apply here as well.

NOTE, if you are ticking off the fanboys, you are doing something WRONG.  Who the heck do you make a game for if you are not making it for the fans of the game?

BioWare can't blame this on just a new generation of fans.  These same fans still give good scores to other games. BioWare you are doing something wrong.  You are shooting yourself in the foot and then refusing to believe that you are holding the gun.

Honestly I thought after DA2 that BioWare was going to use ME3 to redeem themselves.  To make it right for their fans.  But then someone chose to give us this?  There is just no excuse they can use anymore.

Modifié par LeBurns, 09 mars 2012 - 01:55 .

[poofpoof]

Larg_Kellein wrote...

He just gave you an example of a non-Bioware game that got review bombed... MW 3. 

It got "review bombed" because it didn't live up to the expectations right? If you see a big discrepancy between critc scores and user scores at metacritic it's a sure sign of something being wrong with the game. 

[neubourn]

also, a whopping 647 people have submitted user reviews on the PC version of ME3, so all of this nonsense is entirely based on the "opinions" of 647 people.

So yeah...remember that as well when you decide on how "important" those user reviews are.

[DragonRageGT]

brunomalta wrote...

It all comes down to a matter of taste and personal opinion. But i´m sure that many people critize the game using only what they hear second hand. I´m not saying that this is the case here. Sure, ME 3 is not perfect but i think it is far away from a 0 also.

I have read most of the 0 score user reviews. What they share in common is "I haven't played this game and I won't!"

[meatsack]

Phydeaux314 wrote...

A lot of people didn't like ME3's ending. A lot of these people finished the game, and went to express their outrage at the ending via low scores.

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Bioware has stated many many times there are "multiple" endings to this game.  The ones posting these low scores may do a second play through and then get an ending they like.

Then the egg is on their face.

[Freakiq]

I find it most interesting that the ones slamming ME3 are the ones without a ME3 tag under their avatar.

[Taciter]

poofpoof wrote...
It got "review bombed" because it didn't live up to the expectations right? If you see a big discrepancy between critc scores and user scores at metacritic it's a sure sign of something being wrong with the game. 

...and this^, quite simply, is the point I'm trying to make - we ignore criticism at our peril. Take the example of the restauranteur who wonders why his once lucrative business is now bereft of patrons - no one ever complained as far as he can recall and those who did were complaining about silly, trivial things. His loyal patrons stayed with him right to the end, even when he was reduced to serving baked beans on toast.

[nevar00]

Although I'm loving the game so far, I'd still take the user scores far more seriously than the critic scores on any big game release like this. At least the users can't be paid off.

[Siven80]

submarinex1 wrote...

user scores on game websites mean as much as reviews on fourms, anyone can go on a review site and make pointless reviews even if they dont have game. same way people can make big posts on forums.

90% of the people are smart enough to look at whole picture on a game rather than pay attention to some review score.

^^This

[Doctoglethorpe]

LeBurns wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I already know why.  Fanboys score-bomb games for the most childish reasons on that site all the time.  Thats all there is to it. 

Read my sig.  I added that quote when DA2 left it's mark.  It seems to apply here as well.

NOTE, if you are ticking off the fanboys, you are doing something WRONG.  Who the heck do you make a game for if you are not making it for the fans of the game?

BioWare can't blame this on just a new generation of fans.  These same fans still give good scores to other games. BioWare you are doing something wrong.  You are shooting yourself in the foot and then refusing to believe that you are holding the gun.

Honestly I thought after DA2 that BioWare was going to use ME3 to redeem themselves.  To make it right for their fans.  But then someone chose to give us this?  There is just no excuse they can use anymore.

Note:  Theres a huge difference between a fan and a fanboy, a fan base of something and a
bunch of trolling anons on 4chan who's entire vocabulary only includes
deragatory terms for gays and the word "sauce."

[ShadyKat]

People put way too much value in the opinion of the internet these days. If anyone legit believes that ME3 is worst than Duke Nukem Forever, then should never play another video game for the rest of their life.

[Taciter]

Freakiq wrote...

I find it most interesting that the ones slamming ME3 are the ones without a ME3 tag under their avatar.

I hope you're not including me in that statement, seeing as I haven't 'slammed' anything, apart from indifference to criticism.

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[marstor05]

YAAARRRGGHHHHH

[brunomalta]

DragonRageGT wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

It all comes down to a matter of taste and personal opinion. But i´m sure that many people critize the game using only what they hear second hand. I´m not saying that this is the case here. Sure, ME 3 is not perfect but i think it is far away from a 0 also.

I have read most of the 0 score user reviews. What they share in common is "I haven't played this game and I won't!"

And there is the problem right there. So, in a nutshell, the vast majority of 0 come from homophobics (there is always some gay reference) and people who have seen the ending somewhere. This is sad! Is like, 600 + people decide to bash YOUR work for no reason than just cause chaos.

[Taciter]

Honestly... it's like some sort of cult! I seem to recall a few chapters in history when people were systematically executed for questioning religious doctrine.